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[Halo is Back]

lol

 

[Barnabot]

Well the video is not wrong about the increasing numbers of sociopaths that future will have.

 

[Dunki]

scary how far we already into this

 

[LMJ]

Dear God, now that is funny and scary and terrifying all in one...

Its Frighterrorinlarious...that's a word now....

 

[TheShadowLord]

I thought it was funny but I doubt it. Things change over time. Nothing lasts forever. Future ain't set in stone.

 

[Chairman Tickles]

Things tend to go the other way. The further left you go (see post ww1) the further right you spring back (see pre-ww2). Hard Left or right Reactionaires always begin to grow in number when extremists from the opposing camp take the reigns and start bullying the populace.

 

[Dark Star]

meh ...i'll probably be dead by then

but i actually think "young millenials" and "gen z" will become more conservative and nostalgic for traditions in the future.
what we see now, in 2019, with memes and privileged/sensitive/entitled people is just a reaction to our politics and economy... things are good right now ... just wait till the next major war or whatever horrible thing bound to happen in 20 years

 

[lock2k]

I'll be dead anyway. lol

 

[Chairman Tickles]

meh ...i'll probably be dead by then

but i actually think "young millenials" and "gen z" will become more conservative and nostalgic for traditions in the future.
what we see now, in 2019, with memes and privileged/sensitive/entitled people is just a reaction to our politics and economy... things are good right now ... just wait till the next major war or whatever horrible thing bound to happen in 20 years

I'm more worried about how easy it is to manipulate the public into certain thought patterns. From Muh Russiah to muh China to muh Iran etc. So simple to brainwash millions with a new batch of psyops spam across social and news media.

 

[YayNJ]

I'm more worried about how easy it is to manipulate the public into certain thought patterns. From Muh Russiah to muh China to muh Iran etc. So simple to brainwash millions with a new batch of psyops spam across social and news media.

Stop brainwashing me.

 

[Wings 嫩翼翻せ]

This thread title says "evolve..." I think you mean devolve, matey.

 

[EviLore]

This thread title says "evolve..." I think you mean devolve, matey.

Evolution is the correct term whether the changes are subjectively better or worse.

 

[Papa]

Evolution is the correct term whether the changes are subjectively better or worse.

It’s not Devolution?

 

[Halo is Back]

Evolution is the correct term whether the changes are subjectively better or worse.

Learned I’m my biology class most genetic mutations are useless or even harmful

 

[Schattenjäger]

It’s not Devolution?

not this time, dog

 

[Breakage]

This will only be a problem in the so-called progressive western world.
I can't see the equality utopia emerging in, say, China.

 

[Wings 嫩翼翻せ]

Evolution is the correct term whether the changes are subjectively better or worse.

Thanks for the nudge, lol. Sounds like it would have made sense.

 

[Pagusas]

ywah I’m going to stay in Texas for the foreseeable future... I think I’ll be safe here

 

[Barnabot]

Stupid question: since the son got his father fired using twitter because "f'ck him gotta get my likes on twitter" how is he going to provide for his family now? Is the son the provider now? Will be anyone paying big money for someone being an asshole on social media in the future?

 

[Mihos]

20 years from now, I am sure the next generation will be scouring the GAF/ERA archives to get this generation fired from whatever jobs they have since it seems outrage is infinitely retroactive

 

[Orpheum]

These videos and this forum show me, that there are still a lot of sane people left on earth. Let the snowflakes rage on twitter.

 

[Pagusas]

These videos and this forum show me, that there are still a lot of sane people left on earth. Let the snowflakes rage on twitter.

I think the majority of people are sane. Just the extremist have learned how to use the media to push their agendas

 

[Fbh]

The comedy club one is also funny:

 

[Makariel]

Nah, this is how 2050 will look like:

Never cut a deal with a dragon.

 

[DarkestHour]

ResetEra the video.

 

[DarkestHour]

I think the majority of people are sane. Just the extremist have learned how to use the media to push their agendas

This is the truth. Social media is being used to really push this stuff hard. Outside of social media, one really has no idea all this ridiculous stuff is happening.

 

[Singular7]

Learned I’m my biology class most genetic mutations are useless or even harmful

The take-away should have been (given your statement) "the religion of evolution is a comical farce and it's priests have no concept of logical deduction"

 

[Halo is Back]

The take-away should have been (given your statement) "the religion of evolution is a comical farce and it's priests have no concept of logical deduction"

What

 

[Singular7]

What

Magical mutations and time create complex blueprints for machines ...

Seems reasonable! Harry Potter stamp of approval.

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But on a serious note, "proven" and reproducible science is called engineering.

Evolution is more akin to a religious story about the formation of complex data-sets.

You know you're dealing with a religion when the counter-argument to the above is ad hominem fallacy every single time. Don't question the priests!

 

[Halo is Back]

Magical mutations and time create complex blueprints for machines ...

Seems reasonable! Harry Potter stamp of approval.

------------

But on a serious note, "proven" and reproducible science is called engineering.

Evolution is more akin to a religious story about the formation of complex data-sets.

You know you're dealing with a religion when the counter-argument to the above is ad hominem fallacy every single time. Don't question the priests!

Shows how little you know about Evolution. Please educate yourself

 

[caffeware]

Looks like the

Nah, this is how 2050 will look like:

Never cut a deal with a dragon.

Looks like the 80's to me.

 

[Makariel]

Looks like the 80's to me.

How the 80ies imagined the future to look like

 

[Singular7]

Shows how little you know about Evolution. Please educate yourself

Not an argument!

I have a biology degree and am extremely well read on the topic.

My argument is:

the belief that machines build themselves given A) time and B) the laws of inanimate matter in the universe is a religious view akin to a Harry Potter-esque "magic", a magic which generates intelligent data-sets which are used to construct machines (a religious view), rather than a scientific-method-conclusion validating the claim of the hypothesis (science/engineering).

To respond to the argument, you would need to show that data-set formations which build machines can be created, by repeating the process via testing, using Francis Bacon's scientific method, and not just opinion and conjecture about fossils and mutations.

Causing a set of proteins to become a replicator which construct engineering blueprints would be satisfactory to validate the claim.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Well the video is not wrong about the increasing numbers of sociopaths that future will have.

Yeah

The Future is Fucked no matter what side you’re leaning toward

 

[Halo is Back]

Not an argument!

I have a biology degree and am extremely well read on the topic.

My argument is:

the belief that machines build themselves given A) time and B) the laws of inanimate matter in the universe is a religious view akin to a Harry Potter-esque "magic", a magic which generates intelligent data-sets which are used to construct machines (a religious view), rather than a scientific-method-conclusion validating the claim of the hypothesis (science/engineering).

To respond to the argument, you would need to show that data-set formations which build machines can be created, by repeating the process via testing, using Francis Bacon's scientific method, and not just opinion and conjecture about fossils and mutations.

Causing a set of proteins to become a replicator which construct engineering blueprints would be satisfactory to validate the claim.

Haha sure pal. If you knew anything about evolution you would know the mountains of evidence that supports it. Also you are trying to equate Biogenesis to evolution which is not the case. Evolution is not an explanation of ho life came to be but simply that organisms change over time.

 

[triplestation]

More like 2 years. I think in 20 years shit's gonna be like seeing a new color.

The tail end of generation Z are going to undermine what late milennials and early zoomers set up. It's all going into a blender full of time. Instagram, snapchat, tiktok will have been long replaced by much better software. Who knows what it'll be like.

 

[Singular7]

Haha sure pal. If you knew anything about evolution you would know the mountains of evidence that supports it. Also you are trying to equate Biogenesis to evolution which is not the case. Evolution is not an explanation of ho life came to be but simply that organisms change over time.

Not a counter-argument!

I'll grant you biogenesis, even though that is anti-science (scientific fact, or more accurately, engineering, is demonstrated by reproducing results to test and validate a hypothesis... so just "granting biogenesis" defeats the point of unwinding the system in order to understand it)

My argument stands.

Evolution is a magical story, a religious view, about how time and a replicator molecule build blueprints for advanced machinery without agency.

You are an audio-visual-data-processing-mobile-self-aware-agent.

Evolution suggests that a Harry Potter spell was cast to create this advanced machinery without demonstrating it scientifically. (conjecture and opinion is not science)

Evolutionary Biologists are science fiction writers playing pretend, and don't practice real science.

Real science:

- setup amino acids in a test system
- cause the amino acids to generate proteins and replicator molecules
- cause the replicator molecule to spit out machine blueprints
- cause the machine blueprints to generate functional machinery

^ once this is complete, the Harry Potter spell can be explained and called a scientific fact, with one critical problem remaining: the scientist was the agency "causing" the amino acid to mutate into a machine generator.

 

[Halo is Back]

Not a counter-argument!

I'll grant you biogenesis, even though that is anti-science (scientific fact, or more accurately, engineering, is demonstrated by reproducing results to test and validate a hypothesis... so just "granting biogenesis" defeats the point of unwinding the system in order to understand it)

My argument stands.

Evolution is a magical story, a religious view, about how time and a replicator molecule build blueprints for advanced machinery without agency.

You are an audio-visual-data-processing-mobile-self-aware-agent.

Evolution suggests that a Harry Potter spell was cast to create this advanced machinery without demonstrating it scientifically. (conjecture and opinion is not science)

Evolutionary Biologists are science fiction writers playing pretend, and don't practice real science.

Real science:

- setup amino acids in a test system
- cause the amino acids to generate proteins and replicator molecules
- cause the replicator molecule to spit out machine blueprints
- cause the machine blueprints to generate functional machinery

^ once this is complete, the Harry Potter spell can be explained and called a scientific fact, with one critical problem remaining: the scientist was the agency "causing" the amino acid to mutate into a machine generator.

. Thanks for confirming your lack of education! I don't need to "argue" with you. I don't have time to "debate" people who reject fact and clump all of the science into "magic"

 

[Wheeljack539]

How the 80ies imagined the future to look like

The 90s called it better though:

 

[Azurro]

Not an argument!

I have a biology degree and am extremely well read on the topic.

My argument is:

the belief that machines build themselves given A) time and B) the laws of inanimate matter in the universe is a religious view akin to a Harry Potter-esque "magic", a magic which generates intelligent data-sets which are used to construct machines (a religious view), rather than a scientific-method-conclusion validating the claim of the hypothesis (science/engineering).

To respond to the argument, you would need to show that data-set formations which build machines can be created, by repeating the process via testing, using Francis Bacon's scientific method, and not just opinion and conjecture about fossils and mutations.

Causing a set of proteins to become a replicator which construct engineering blueprints would be satisfactory to validate the claim.

You know? I'll grant you the skepticism of evolutionary theory, as wacky a point of view that is.

However, let's pretend that the theory is not correct, what is the alternative explanation? Another scientific theory would have to be proposed to explain life on Earth. If your alternative explanation is: "God did it", then the theory you are mocking actually ends up looking way better than the religious view, which unironically proposes that a wizard did it.

 

[Singular7]

You know? I'll grant you the skepticism of evolutionary theory, as wacky a point of view that is.

However, let's pretend that the theory is not correct, what is the alternative explanation? Another scientific theory would have to be proposed to explain life on Earth. If your alternative explanation is: "God did it", then the theory you are mocking actually ends up looking way better than the religious view, which unironically proposes that a wizard did it.

The alternative deduction is that blueprints which create functional machinery were developed by mind.

"complex interdependent machines from non-mind" is not tenable given the data-set we do understand about the underlying principles of the universe, logic, and reason.

You can't say anything about God in the argument, until later in the logic set predicated on the history of mankind, and ultimately being forced to confront the same conundrum in "machines from-non-mind" as "aliens did it".

Two possible options to argue out once you recognize the probem in machines from non-mind:

- other intelligent beings within the universe
- intelligent beings outside the universe

 

[Singular7]

. Thanks for confirming your lack of education! I don't need to "argue" with you. I don't have time to "debate" people who reject fact and clump all of the science into "magic"

Sounds good.

 

[Halo is Back]

The alternative deduction is that blueprints which create functional machinery were developed by mind.

"complex interdependent machines from non-mind" is not tenable given the data-set we do understand about the underlying principles of the universe, logic, and reason.

You can't say anything about God in the argument, until later in the logic set predicated on the history of mankind, and ultimately being forced to confront the same conundrum in "machines from-non-mind" as "aliens did it".

Two possible options to argue out once you recognize the probem in machines from non-mind:

- other intelligent beings within the universe
- intelligent beings outside the universe

FUCK ALL THAT SCIENCE SHIT! Aliens did it!

 

[Acerac]

FUCK ALL THAT SCIENCE SHIT! Aliens did it!

Engage with his points or don't.

 

[Halo is Back]

Engage with his points or don't.

What points???

 

[Halo is Back]

The alternative deduction is that blueprints which create functional machinery were developed by mind.

"complex interdependent machines from non-mind" is not tenable given the data-set we do understand about the underlying principles of the universe, logic, and reason.

You can't say anything about God in the argument, until later in the logic set predicated on the history of mankind, and ultimately being forced to confront the same conundrum in "machines from-non-mind" as "aliens did it".

Two possible options to argue out once you recognize the probem in machines from non-mind:

- other intelligent beings within the universe
- intelligent beings outside the universe

Let me ask you one thing singular. How do you explain bacteria and viruses adapting to our anti-biotics?

 

[The Giant]

Saying hi to a chick will be considered offensive and will be sexual harassment.

 

[Azurro]

The alternative deduction is that blueprints which create functional machinery were developed by mind.

"complex interdependent machines from non-mind" is not tenable given the data-set we do understand about the underlying principles of the universe, logic, and reason.

You can't say anything about God in the argument, until later in the logic set predicated on the history of mankind, and ultimately being forced to confront the same conundrum in "machines from-non-mind" as "aliens did it".

Two possible options to argue out once you recognize the probem in machines from non-mind:

- other intelligent beings within the universe
- intelligent beings outside the universe

Alternative deductions are nice and pretty and everything, but it's not enough to have a deduction to have a scientific theory, you need proof and present it once you have deduced an alternate theory.

So, you have to either prove aliens exist and "seeded" life on the planet, which is interesting given that this happened in a relatively early time in the planet's lifetime.... Or b, you have to prove God exists.

Because let's be honest, the only people willing to entertain the bs that evolutionary theory is wrong are religious people, which is why your criticism is silly, given your explanation is that a primitive middle Eastern dude said god did it. That explanation is just as valid as saying a multidimensional version of me went back in time, took a shit and created space, time, the universe and you.

Both explanations are equally valid because both are just as nonsensical and both need no proof.

Btw, you are welcome for creating you, my son.

 

[Halo is Back]

Alternative deductions are nice and pretty and everything, but it's not enough to have a deduction to have a scientific theory, you need proof and present it once you have deduced an alternate theory.

So, you have to either prove aliens exist and "seeded" life on the planet, which is interesting given that this happened in a relatively early time in the planet's lifetime.... Or b, you have to prove God exists.

Because let's be honest, the only people willing to entertain the bs that evolutionary theory is wrong are religious people, which is why your criticism is silly, given your explanation is that a primitive middle Eastern dude said god did it. That explanation is just as valid as saying a multidimensional version of me went back in time, took a shit and created space, time, the universe and you.

Both explanations are equally valid because both are just as nonsensical and both need no proof.

Btw, you are welcome for creating you, my son.

I mean basically his entire argument stems to nuh uh! Evolution is magic and we can’t evolve based off mutation because I said so and then he claims he has a degree in Biology

 

[Halo is Back]

I would be bothered in a debate but you can’t debate someone who is going to say any credible source, or scientific fact you bring up as “bs” or “magic”. A debate with someone like that is about as fulfilling as debating a flat earther