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meh ...i'll probably be dead by then
but i actually think "young millenials" and "gen z" will become more conservative and nostalgic for traditions in the future.
what we see now, in 2019, with memes and privileged/sensitive/entitled people is just a reaction to our politics and economy... things are good right now ... just wait till the next major war or whatever horrible thing bound to happen in 20 years
I'm more worried about how easy it is to manipulate the public into certain thought patterns. From Muh Russiah to muh China to muh Iran etc. So simple to brainwash millions with a new batch of psyops spam across social and news media.
This thread title says "evolve..." I think you mean devolve, matey.
Evolution is the correct term whether the changes are subjectively better or worse.
Learned I’m my biology class most genetic mutations are useless or even harmfulEvolution is the correct term whether the changes are subjectively better or worse.
It’s not Devolution?
Evolution is the correct term whether the changes are subjectively better or worse.
These videos and this forum show me, that there are still a lot of sane people left on earth. Let the snowflakes rage on twitter.
I think the majority of people are sane. Just the extremist have learned how to use the media to push their agendas
Learned I’m my biology class most genetic mutations are useless or even harmful
WhatThe take-away should have been (given your statement) "the religion of evolution is a comical farce and it's priests have no concept of logical deduction"
What
Shows how little you know about Evolution. Please educate yourselfMagical mutations and time create complex blueprints for machines ...
Seems reasonable! Harry Potter stamp of approval.
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But on a serious note, "proven" and reproducible science is called engineering.
Evolution is more akin to a religious story about the formation of complex data-sets.
You know you're dealing with a religion when the counter-argument to the above is ad hominem fallacy every single time. Don't question the priests!
Looks like the 80's to me.Nah, this is how 2050 will look like:
Never cut a deal with a dragon.
How the 80ies imagined the future to look likeLooks like the 80's to me.
Shows how little you know about Evolution. Please educate yourself
Well the video is not wrong about the increasing numbers of sociopaths that future will have.
Haha sure pal. If you knew anything about evolution you would know the mountains of evidence that supports it. Also you are trying to equate Biogenesis to evolution which is not the case. Evolution is not an explanation of ho life came to be but simply that organisms change over time.Not an argument!
I have a biology degree and am extremely well read on the topic.
My argument is:
the belief that machines build themselves given A) time and B) the laws of inanimate matter in the universe is a religious view akin to a Harry Potter-esque "magic", a magic which generates intelligent data-sets which are used to construct machines (a religious view), rather than a scientific-method-conclusion validating the claim of the hypothesis (science/engineering).
To respond to the argument, you would need to show that data-set formations which build machines can be created, by repeating the process via testing, using Francis Bacon's scientific method, and not just opinion and conjecture about fossils and mutations.
Causing a set of proteins to become a replicator which construct engineering blueprints would be satisfactory to validate the claim.
Haha sure pal. If you knew anything about evolution you would know the mountains of evidence that supports it. Also you are trying to equate Biogenesis to evolution which is not the case. Evolution is not an explanation of ho life came to be but simply that organisms change over time.
. Thanks for confirming your lack of education! I don't need to "argue" with you. I don't have time to "debate" people who reject fact and clump all of the science into "magic"Not a counter-argument!
I'll grant you biogenesis, even though that is anti-science (scientific fact, or more accurately, engineering, is demonstrated by reproducing results to test and validate a hypothesis... so just "granting biogenesis" defeats the point of unwinding the system in order to understand it)
My argument stands.
Evolution is a magical story, a religious view, about how time and a replicator molecule build blueprints for advanced machinery without agency.
You are an audio-visual-data-processing-mobile-self-aware-agent.
Evolution suggests that a Harry Potter spell was cast to create this advanced machinery without demonstrating it scientifically. (conjecture and opinion is not science)
Evolutionary Biologists are science fiction writers playing pretend, and don't practice real science.
Real science:
- setup amino acids in a test system
- cause the amino acids to generate proteins and replicator molecules
- cause the replicator molecule to spit out machine blueprints
- cause the machine blueprints to generate functional machinery
^ once this is complete, the Harry Potter spell can be explained and called a scientific fact, with one critical problem remaining: the scientist was the agency "causing" the amino acid to mutate into a machine generator.
How the 80ies imagined the future to look like
Not an argument!
I have a biology degree and am extremely well read on the topic.
My argument is:
the belief that machines build themselves given A) time and B) the laws of inanimate matter in the universe is a religious view akin to a Harry Potter-esque "magic", a magic which generates intelligent data-sets which are used to construct machines (a religious view), rather than a scientific-method-conclusion validating the claim of the hypothesis (science/engineering).
To respond to the argument, you would need to show that data-set formations which build machines can be created, by repeating the process via testing, using Francis Bacon's scientific method, and not just opinion and conjecture about fossils and mutations.
Causing a set of proteins to become a replicator which construct engineering blueprints would be satisfactory to validate the claim.
You know? I'll grant you the skepticism of evolutionary theory, as wacky a point of view that is.
However, let's pretend that the theory is not correct, what is the alternative explanation? Another scientific theory would have to be proposed to explain life on Earth. If your alternative explanation is: "God did it", then the theory you are mocking actually ends up looking way better than the religious view, which unironically proposes that a wizard did it.
. Thanks for confirming your lack of education! I don't need to "argue" with you. I don't have time to "debate" people who reject fact and clump all of the science into "magic"
FUCK ALL THAT SCIENCE SHIT! Aliens did it!The alternative deduction is that blueprints which create functional machinery were developed by mind.
"complex interdependent machines from non-mind" is not tenable given the data-set we do understand about the underlying principles of the universe, logic, and reason.
You can't say anything about God in the argument, until later in the logic set predicated on the history of mankind, and ultimately being forced to confront the same conundrum in "machines from-non-mind" as "aliens did it".
Two possible options to argue out once you recognize the probem in machines from non-mind:
- other intelligent beings within the universe
- intelligent beings outside the universe
Engage with his points or don't.FUCK ALL THAT SCIENCE SHIT! Aliens did it!
What points???Engage with his points or don't.
Let me ask you one thing singular. How do you explain bacteria and viruses adapting to our anti-biotics?The alternative deduction is that blueprints which create functional machinery were developed by mind.
"complex interdependent machines from non-mind" is not tenable given the data-set we do understand about the underlying principles of the universe, logic, and reason.
You can't say anything about God in the argument, until later in the logic set predicated on the history of mankind, and ultimately being forced to confront the same conundrum in "machines from-non-mind" as "aliens did it".
Two possible options to argue out once you recognize the probem in machines from non-mind:
- other intelligent beings within the universe
- intelligent beings outside the universe
The alternative deduction is that blueprints which create functional machinery were developed by mind.
"complex interdependent machines from non-mind" is not tenable given the data-set we do understand about the underlying principles of the universe, logic, and reason.
You can't say anything about God in the argument, until later in the logic set predicated on the history of mankind, and ultimately being forced to confront the same conundrum in "machines from-non-mind" as "aliens did it".
Two possible options to argue out once you recognize the probem in machines from non-mind:
- other intelligent beings within the universe
- intelligent beings outside the universe
I mean basically his entire argument stems to nuh uh! Evolution is magic and we can’t evolve based off mutation because I said so and then he claims he has a degree in BiologyAlternative deductions are nice and pretty and everything, but it's not enough to have a deduction to have a scientific theory, you need proof and present it once you have deduced an alternate theory.
So, you have to either prove aliens exist and "seeded" life on the planet, which is interesting given that this happened in a relatively early time in the planet's lifetime.... Or b, you have to prove God exists.
Because let's be honest, the only people willing to entertain the bs that evolutionary theory is wrong are religious people, which is why your criticism is silly, given your explanation is that a primitive middle Eastern dude said god did it. That explanation is just as valid as saying a multidimensional version of me went back in time, took a shit and created space, time, the universe and you.
Both explanations are equally valid because both are just as nonsensical and both need no proof.
Btw, you are welcome for creating you, my son.