Jon Neu
Banned
If Captain Marvel is a 0 or 1, what the hell do you give The Last Airbender or The Happening?
Maybe a 0 or 1 too.
If Captain Marvel is a 0 or 1, what the hell do you give The Last Airbender or The Happening?
Yes? Both times I saw CM this weekend the theater clapped when the tribute to Stan Lee came on. It was pretty great actually.
Yep!
I was at a showing of BlackkKlansman ... Mostly white people there and they applauded at different points of the movie. Same with Black Panther (tho that was more of a mixed crowd) and same with CM .... EVERYONE clapped when Carol won the day...
The only review I care about.
You've never watched redlettermedia?? How dare you!The first time I've heard of these dudes, but I'm going to subscribe because this is some real shit.
You've never watched redlettermedia?? How dare you!
I haven't watched this one yet but your excitement over it has me excited.
You've never watched redlettermedia?? How dare you!
I haven't watched this one yet but your excitement over it has me excited.
https://www.abc.es/play/cine/notici...rse-capitana-marvel-201903111848_noticia.html
This (ridiculous) spanish paper says that Brie Larson is capable of bench pressing 180 kilos (396lbs and I don't believe it for a second) and that she is basically trained to the point of being a super athlete (lol).
Yet in her actions scenes she is clumsy and slow as fuck and some weak ass dude as Jude Law looks incredibly much more stronger, but let's not put reality before feminism.
To the posters saying low scores are trolls and they should be removed....
Are you aware of how diving or figure skating is scored in the Olympics?
Lowest AND highest scores are discarded, and the remainder used to find a 'true' score.
Because people can be too harsh or too glowing in their reviews.
You want to get rid of the really bad, then piss off the really good too. See what's left.
So Disney and other film studios hire people to essentially write fake positive reviews and other nonsense to "counter the trolls." And they are being cheered
Fucking amazing. 2019 is wild
Just a quick one for the guys supporting the authoritarianism of corporate America. I'm sure you're delighted those guys are batting for your team right now but just remember this when they change sides and block YOUR freedom of expression.
I used to think in terms of the end rather than the means. I cheered the entryism that got Labour a properly socialist leader in the UK. Then I saw entryism break something I loved. My point is that if you allow something bad to happen that's in your side's favour, your complaints will be much more hollow when it goes against you, and if you have an ounce of self reflection you'll regret choosing to support the immoral but expedient when you could have taken the longer route of arguing your side's position and done less harm.
They were reviewed well for political reasons, otherwise they are bland nothing movies.
That your only response is to insult people, misrepresent them and call them man-babies rather underlines my point.
That your only response is to insult people, misrepresent them and call them man-babies rather underlines my point.
The sad thing here is that I do not know if you would aprove of such methods for things you despise. Be it for example a sweater for children which states the coolest Monkey in the Jungle wearing by a black kid.Oh come on! Stop with the fake tears. These companies aren't blocking you from your freedom of expression on GAF, Twitter, Facebook, etc. You can tell the world how terrible Captain Marvel is (one week before it's even released) on many platforms. Just don't think every site has to accept review bombing. Only entitled\weak-minded man babies think this way.
The sad thing here is that I do not know if you would aprove of such methods for things you despise. Be it for example a sweater for children which states the coolest Monkey in the Jungle wearing by a black kid.
because they review bomed stores. they did start a harassment and threat campaign. They destroyed H&Ms in Africa etc.I didn't like that ad. I thought it was slightly odd that it was "that" boy that wore that shirt, whereas the other kid had the lion animal on his shirt. But how does that compare with this example or anything in this thread?
If the shoe fits.....
I'm not insulting anyone that wants to be reasonable. You don't get to say anything you want, on any site you want, and however you want. If you think it's your freedom that's being taken from you because you can't review a movie before it comes out, then you're entitled.
And if you can't at least acknowledge review bombing, then you are openingly being clueless or naive. In the same way some reviewers are inflating or deflating scores based on "politics" of a movie or the politics surrounding a movie, it the same thing that's happening on the fan reviewers side. To act like it's not happening is just odd.
because they review bomed stores. they did start a harassment and threat campaign. They destroyed H&Ms in Africa etc.
People getting angry about something and act. Like review bombing a movie, games on steam doxxing people and mailing heir bosses how his/her employee is wearing a MAGA hat in public etc. Calling for people to be fired because they did some stupid AMA on 8 chan. and so on. It is nothing new or actual surprising. And if Brie Larson would not have said such stupid shit it would have never happened. It is not because she is a women or this movie is "progressive"
You seem to be constructing a straw man. Good luck with that. I expect nothing less from you.
It is a sign that this atmosphere has become so toxic that the smallest thing like here will cause such a reaction. It does happen on both sides. Because social media has toxicated our whole society so that normal conversations, making errors etc is not possible anymore.But what she said wasn't stupid. Someone posted the video earlier today or yesterday. At worse it's borderline controversial and you can honestly disagree with it and that's fine. But to act like it's an act of war is insane. In the same way what H&M did wasn't an act of war. It was a small mistake and needed to get cleaned up. I think Brie could have worded it better to make her point more clear, but it's not like she was preaching hate or anything.
It is a sign that this atmosphere has become so toxic that the smallest thing like here will cause such a reaction. It does happen on both sides. Because social media has toxicated our whole society so that normal conversations, making errors etc is not possible anymore.
This is just another evidence for this.
Exactly. Now people you do not even know will barrage and harass you no matter what side you are on. They will try to search through your past, try to find your employee etc. They litterally want to destroy your life because you have a different opinion on something. And the result of these mentalities are also things like review bombing, harassment etc. It is fucking awful...I've noticed too that social media has harmed the discourse. And I can't even blame the technology. It's us humans. It's clear to me that we aren't socially evolved enough to have global conversations about serious topics. We as a species only are used to having conversations with a few people (like local gather sized groups). If you slip up and say something on accident and it gets retweeted 10,000 times, how can one person ever recover from that? There's no way all 10,000 people will read your apology or explanation.
When you say something foul on accident to your friends, you can explain yourself to 3 people easily. And you can have the total attention of those 3 friends while you're speaking to them. On Social Media though.......Nah doesn't work that way.
Best decision you ever madeThe first time I've heard of these dudes, but I'm going to subscribe because this is some real shit.
I've noticed too that social media has harmed the discourse. And I can't even blame the technology. It's us humans. It's clear to me that we aren't socially evolved enough to have global conversations about serious topics. We as a species only are used to having conversations with a few people (like local gather sized groups). If you slip up and say something on accident and it gets retweeted 10,000 times, how can one person ever recover from that? There's no way all 10,000 people will read your apology or explanation.
When you say something foul on accident to your friends, you can explain yourself to 3 people easily. And you can have the total attention of those 3 friends while you're speaking to them. On Social Media though.......Nah doesn't work that way.
I've noticed too that social media has harmed the discourse. And I can't even blame the technology. It's us humans. It's clear to me that we aren't socially evolved enough to have global conversations about serious topics. We as a species only are used to having conversations with a few people (like local gather sized groups). If you slip up and say something on accident and it gets retweeted 10,000 times, how can one person ever recover from that? There's no way all 10,000 people will read your apology or explanation.
When you say something foul on accident to your friends, you can explain yourself to 3 people easily. And you can have the total attention of those 3 friends while you're speaking to them. On Social Media though.......Nah doesn't work that way.
Read between the lines, or hell just look around you.That's not what that article says at all. Learn to read.
Look Disney has already been caught blacklisting people who gave them sub satisfactory reviews (LA Weekly was it?) the fact that they removed “want to see” due to this movie is just another drop in the bucket.
Absolutely not going to see it after hearing about the misuse of Nirvana. Yeah that stuff was life changing for me as a teenage outsider the last thing I want is to hear it in a movie that glorifies the US military.
Thankfully we have critics who review this stuff and can hear about it and make our minds up.
Read between the lines, or hell just look around you.
Their are still bots giving CM high scores on RT. I wonder when Disney will get around to those.
If the shoe fits.....
I'm not insulting anyone that wants to be reasonable. You don't get to say anything you want, on any site you want, and however you want. If you think it's your freedom that's being taken from you because you can't review a movie before it comes out, then you're entitled.
And if you can't at least acknowledge review bombing, then you are openingly being clueless or naive. In the same way some reviewers are inflating or deflating scores based on "politics" of a movie or the politics surrounding a movie, it the same thing that's happening on the fan reviewers side. To act like it's not happening is just odd.
Sure, sure. Just so happen the leads of those movies (just happened) to be black or women. God forbid any action movie NOT starring a straight white man gets reviewed well.
If anyone is being entitled, I’d say it’s you when you say this:
“Sure, sure. Just so happen the leads of those movies (just happened) to be black or women. God forbid any action movie NOT starring a straight white man gets reviewed well.”
Being black or female does not automatically make your work good nor does it entitle you to positive reviews. That would be unequal treatment.
Yeah, black or women leads were invented with those movies.
That never happened before and it's not like those movies are critiziced for their obviously political agenda, they are critiziced just because they have black people and women in it.
Sure, sure.
It doesn't especially glorify the US military.
how many nameless people die in the background during all of these films? who cares? we are focused on the personal dramas of people like Tony Stark, a billionaire arms dealer who repeatedly puts the entire world in harm's way but he's still a good guy for some reason. imperialism via consumerism. they are fascism for neoliberals.
mckmas8808 You seem intent on constructing a straw man in which other people are racist, that they don't like a film because it features a black/brown person, or features a woman. Perhaps this is a figleaf for your own racist tendencies (which we've discussed to death).
Now the post you replied to pointed out that a film's quality is not determined by melanin or pant-content, and you went on the attack about that, then proceed to suggest that others are upset about people liking Captain Marvel and Black Panther. Your ongoing hypocrisy is always amusing.
To the topic in general...
To be clear - yes a certain amount of review bombing happens when film-makers, game-makers, etc attack their customers. It's not unreasonable and it provides a way for the public to fight back. It is also evident that racists like mckmass would automatically give Black Panther a high score for instance, and no doubt there is something similar going on with Captain Marvel, having invoked the woke. By the way - I see a lot of the professionally-offended in here complaining that CM was review-bombed before release. It was not. There is a want-to-see score, which got dumped, because people did not want to see the film. The comment section reflected the political dichotomy - the woke banging on about female empowerment with no interest in the actual film content and the other side not wanting to go near the film due to its perceived wokeness, and BL's frankly offensive and racist statements.
Among 'professional' reviewers - in the past I think we can say they were professionals, working for real publications and TV shows, with an audience derived from building loyalty over time instead of fishing for clicks. Movies were reviewed as movies and because the political climate wasn't so febrile, the topic of ethnic and gender diversity did not factor into a review score, which is as it should be. However, in modern times reviewers are poorly-paid bloggers who need to generate clicks, and the political environment is what it is. Comparing reviews in the past vs reviews now is thus a fruitless endeavour. That woke films score highly reflects this, as well as reflecting the fact that people fear the woke twitter mob, as well as much of the internet commentariat being from highly woke locations. That the public score these games lower indicates that such wokeness has thankfully not spread beyond these fringe lunatics.
TLJ rather crystalised this phenomenon, and set in motion the trend that if a film is shit the studio will invoke the woke so that anyone criticising it is sexist/racist, shutting down dissenting opinion. See Ghostbusters. I'm not saying CM is shit, it might not be, it might be average, but the woke thing provides a perfect shield against criticism.
Now I could go into why going woke prevents us from having interesting characters and storylines but I think I've banged on quite long enough, and will leave the floor open for others to say their piece.
Metacritic deleted all their Captain Marvel user reviews.
But as a black man, myself and many others are used to people like yourself never giving us credit ... Dude you lost!
For fuck's sake, you are as bad as the stuff you accuse others of. I'm just a lurker around here and don't contribute much, but that's not to say I don't notice particular posting patterns from the same members on this site.
Hariseldon pretty much puts into words many of my thoughts anyway, I'd just be repeating much the same, so I'm not going to go on a massive off topic rant. But the bolded victim part in the quote here demanding credit, and you wonder why you get called out. What have you done here that needs Hariseldon's and others credit, and how have they refused to give you any? Who or what is their type that affects you so much? Why are you trying to paint people as racists all the time, but then find it ok for you to spew the same equivalent racism you get upset about?
Just because you have an apparent constant agenda, doesn't not mean every other bugger in the world has an agenda too and people can view things in a variety of greys,. rather than extreme black or white all the time. But I've already seen around here you've been told this several times before.