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They're market cap is $10.7 Billion...and Sony would have to offer more than that for shareholders to accept. Seems like a lot of money if you're Sony.
They're market cap is $10.7 Billion...and Sony would have to offer more than that for shareholders to accept. Seems like a lot of money if you're Sony.
You can start by wiping that stupid fucking grin off your rosy fucking cheeks.
And Sony has $21 Billion cash on hand right now right?
While it sure is nothing compared to what is currently happening over at ERA, that’s still rather impressive for a forum with only more than 200 members online at peak hours.
ResetERA on the other hand, has roughly around 20 000 members online ( I think ).
It doesn't have to be an all cash deal, even at a %20 premium that's $12b deal, cash and stock deal.
JEBUS that's a lot of money for the whole of Sony to pay, "JUST" to get all GTAs
And Sony has $21 Billion cash on hand right now right?
JEBUS that's a lot of money for the whole of Sony to pay, "JUST" to get all GTAs, 2K sports games, Read Dead Redemption games as exclusives though. Doesn't seem like smart money to me.
Going off some general publicly availabe info, if the price is $130/share at 105.77m outstanding, the purchase price would equate to around $13.75b. Structuring that payment would clearly be partial cash, partial stock, but my instinct tells me if the price is around that amount it would favor upfront cash more heavily than stock in Sony corp.They're market cap is $10.7 Billion...and Sony would have to offer more than that for shareholders to accept. Seems like a lot of money if you're Sony.
While it sure is nothing compared to what is currently happening over at ERA, that’s still rather impressive for a forum with only more than 200 members online at peak hours.
ResetERA on the other hand, has roughly around 20 000 members online ( I think ).
I can see both ways. And lean towards it makes sense to me. Sony relies on Playstation more than ever before. Next generation is coming fairly soon, MS is making waves, and Google might be jumping into the mix. Although I put little stock in streaming right now, if it takes off both competitors have the leg up there. If PS5 is not a huge hit then Sony might be screwed. This would put a bigger notch into Sony's belt than anything beyond brand loyalty. High risk yes, but also high reward and high risk even if they didn't make such a move.JEBUS that's a lot of money for the whole of Sony to pay, "JUST" to get all GTAs, 2K sports games, Read Dead Redemption games as exclusives though. Doesn't seem like smart money to me.
JEBUS that's a lot of money for the whole of Sony to pay, "JUST" to get all GTAs, 2K sports games, Read Dead Redemption games as exclusives though. Doesn't seem like smart money to me.
If true, this has been triggered likely by MS buying up all those other studios.
MS might have even tried to buy T2 first, the fight for exclusive content just got serious.
Next gen is going to get bloody.
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side, er, I mean fanboys. Guaranteed we would see claims that Crackdown > GTA.Maybe having those exclusives, which lets not kid ourselves are the biggest third party titles that you're going to see along with the likes of Bioshock, Midnight Club, 2k (These do sell very well too across platforms) gains you those titles and maybe to Sony taking them away from Microsoft is worth alot. Cause I'd imagine it'd be hard for the biggest Microsoft fanboy to argue their first party library against even just Take Twos, let alone the rest of the Sony exclusive titles.
I just wish Sony would fucking buy Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill. Imagine a Naughty Dog Silent Hill.
I highly doubt Sony would spend that much money and reject PC releases. Much more likely that they would trumpet to the heavens how you can play these games cross play between PS4 and PC.I hope this rumor isn't true.
I would hate seeing all their PC games becoming Sony console exclusive.
Going off some general publicly availabe info, if the price is $130/share at 105.77m outstanding, the purchase price would equate to around $13.75b. Structuring that payment would clearly be partial cash, partial stock, but my instinct tells me if the price is around that amount it would favor upfront cash more heavily than stock in Sony corp.
If true, the treasure trove of IP - original or licensed - Sony would obtain is immense. This is, IMO, a far bigger acquisition than the rumored MS+EA bromance that's been the source of rumors forever.
Well.. how many games of SIE are on PC? Games that are ps4/PC are not a Sony proprietyI highly doubt Sony would spend that much money and reject PC releases. Much more likely that they would trumpet to the heavens how you can play these games cross play between PS4 and PC.
That's not how this works.
They buy them they have less back-up resources in the war chest, the transition after the buyout and the actual Take 2 studios themselves also cost money, which means Sony would likely have to slim the fat to make the transition affordable.
You then have to throw budget to the new studios that were added as well as add to payroll. Then you need to fund their latest projects.
By being exclusive 2/3rds of revenue and profit that take-two used to make are now gone. Thus, the reason for the buyout would basically never pay off the losses unless an exclusive GTA6 sold over 100 million PS5's which ain't happening.
I forgot they also have to market the latest projects as well, not just fund the development.
With all the IPS making less than they did before, and the large amount of red already on the table, they have likely already lost nearly all of their warchests and moved most of their other resources to cover all the above.
Next thing you know Sonys other divisions will be effected and buildings will start being sold again.
Keep in mind Sony started selling buildings years ago mostly because of the PS3 money sink and the things around it (plus the smartphone division) which all were worth MUCH less than all the money Sony would have to spend to buy and transition Take Two into a owned subsidiary. So we are talking a MUCH worse financial situation to cut long-term and short-term losses.
People simplify market value to "if one number is bigger than the other they can buy it" without looking at the details, the though processes of some here would easily bankrupt many companies.
Lol if that happened then Microsoft can just bow out.Do you mean all these franchises exclusives?
I should love that to happen... it will be possible the biggest studio purchase since Minecraft's studio???
- BioShock series
- Borderlands series
- Civilization series
- Grand Theft Auto series
- Mafia series
- Max Payne series
- Midnight Club series
- MLB 2K series
- NBA 2K series
- Red Dead series
- WWE 2K series
- XCOM series
But I don't believe it.
Well, I guess this is one way to finally get Agent made.
Spending 10-12 billion would give them great incentive to sell games on PC.Well.. how many games of SIE are on PC? Games that are ps4/PC are not a Sony propriety
What if Sony wants to buy up T2, but keeps them as a 3rd party. Sony would see some benefits within 5y or earlier and that´s an extra 5 to 10bill. T2 currenlty makes annually? that Sony would get.
GTA5 is one hit thing, Sony has to assume that GTA6 will even sell more copies ... 150mill+ on multiple devices? Lets assume that Google Box Streaming is a success, reaching 50mill. in no time ... and im talking about new costumers, not the same suspects buying games/consoles.
Getting T2 and keep them exclusive ... is hard to swallow. GTA6 PS5 only, i dont think any IP has similar push as Halo had. Those days are gone ..even Minecraft required phones, pc, consoles and mirowaves to sell over 150mill. copies.
If Minecraft cost MS 3bill. T2 will be worth at least 5bill.+
Lol if that happened then Microsoft can just bow out.
You’re on the right track.
Sony Corp is more than Playstation and the acquisition has to make a return at that level.
I see this as a $10-12 billion deal and certainly something that Sony could do. I don’t see them making T2 games exclusive post-acquisitions asthat would wreck the economics of the deal.
You’re on the right track.
Sony Corp is more than Playstation and the acquisition has to make a return at that level.
I see this as a $10-12 billion deal and certainly something that Sony could do. I don’t see them making T2 games exclusive post-acquisitions asthat would wreck the economics of the deal.
With sonys censoring i wonder what the new gta would look like if they buy take two.
Imagine the reactions if they dropped a GTA trailer where the lead takes a short break from car jacking to beat up a prostitute for her money? The greatest internet war of all time would ensue. Twitter's servers would be in flames. Report buttons would wear out worldwide. Cats and dogs would dine together in Chinese Food Restaurants. Democrats would finally vote against each other over the debate between whether beating up hookers was stronger evidence of hatred towards women, or hatred towards the dominant gender / ethnicity of the prostitutes. And New Day would start eating French Toast.Yeah, they’ve been talking about building up TV and movies using PlayStation IP.
A GTA movie would sell a few.
They would be better off buying Bluepoint and From Software, and it would be cheaper.
Agreed.JEBUS that's a lot of money for the whole of Sony to pay, "JUST" to get all GTAs, 2K sports games, Read Dead Redemption games as exclusives though. Doesn't seem like smart money to me.
Ok so looks like recent news has shown this isn't a real rumor. Good, it was insane to begin with.
Edit: Seems like MW responded to.