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PS4 & Switch are both outselling Xbox One S while at full price $299 with no games bundled in vs Xbox One S at $219 with a game (on Amazon)
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Amazon UK has the one s at #57 and #87, and the switch at #27. The PS4 isn’t even in the top 100.
What does this mean? Absolutely bugger all.
What does this mean? Absolutely bugger all.
That's because the PS4 Fifa bundles & 1TB PS4's are sold out right now
Petrae
Member
Xbox One S is SHIT, with the consistently worst technical performances for any multiplatform game. Why blow a little less money on a shitty box when you could spend a little more on a better-performing one?
If it wasn’t for the fact that the Xbox One X came out, and that GameStop had a crazy-good trade-in promo going on, I wouldn’t own an XBO today.
If it wasn’t for the fact that the Xbox One X came out, and that GameStop had a crazy-good trade-in promo going on, I wouldn’t own an XBO today.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
In stock here direct from amazon and not third party, as well as the red dead bundle.
You can’t judge these things as perfect ways to judge sales. Granted I’m sure ps4 often leads Xbox in sales, but... who cares, seriously?
This thread is pure fanboy, console war bait.
LuvOfThaGame
Banned
The other thread triggered you so much you thought a new thread opposite the other was necessary? That is some super salt. Lol
Imtjnotu
Member
Well in his defense, the other thread thinks the xbone will sell 20 million in the next two years
I keep seeing the threads & comments about a Xbox One turn around & so on but I don't see anything to back it up
1TB PS4s are sold out on Amazon UK
LuvOfThaGame
Banned
And he could've posted this in there as a rebuttal, but no, better to have a console war bait thread. Lol
That would be like me creating a thread asking why people say GTS is so great when Forza has better ratings and more players because the is a thread that is for gts numbers. It's silly.
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juliotendo
Member
I believe Xbox has sold around 30 to 40 million units this generation since launch in 2013. That’s not bad but I’m sure Microsoft expected more than they’ve gotten in return so far.
Combined with PlayStation continually setting the bar with quality exclusives and the fanfare over Nintendo’s new platform, for most people there’s little reason to own an Xbox this generation.
Issue is as always for any console manufacturer —- exclusive games. Forza, Halo, and Gears aren’t enough to sell units and don’t forget the disastrous 2013 E3 presentation that essentially cursed Microsoft for this generation.
I like Xbox though. I think Microsoft will do better next gen and should be interesting to watch.
Combined with PlayStation continually setting the bar with quality exclusives and the fanfare over Nintendo’s new platform, for most people there’s little reason to own an Xbox this generation.
Issue is as always for any console manufacturer —- exclusive games. Forza, Halo, and Gears aren’t enough to sell units and don’t forget the disastrous 2013 E3 presentation that essentially cursed Microsoft for this generation.
I like Xbox though. I think Microsoft will do better next gen and should be interesting to watch.
Xbox is no longer a Console, its a Platform Service. I doubt they will do better next gen as far as hardware because they really don't care at this point, if they sell hardware - not really. Xbox is wherever you run Xbox services, if you run a Microsoft game that came from Steam on Windows 10, its running Xbox service for instance. If you are running a game from Android with Xbox Services, that would be another example. The goal (long-term) is to run as much from the cloud as possible and charge subscription fees, and hopefully subscription fees on top of the subscription fee - the goal really isn't to sell hardware.
The console warz is more or less over, maybe their will be a cloud war, but I have serious doubts about that ever happening. I would expect Xbox sales to generally continue to go down, and possibly crash to Wii U type levels when new hardware is announced for next-gen.
The only thing confusing about this, isn't Microsoft, its the inability of traditional Xbox gamers to figure out that Microsoft really isn't into them. (Microsoft really needs to start using a cattle prod on these traditional console users to get them going in the right direction... way too slow)
First they need to move the cattle to all digital, it doesn't matter if its UWP, Win32, or Xbox, second step is to get that all processed into the cloud than they charge a subscription.
https://www.shacknews.com/article/9...oach-may-lead-microsoft-to-digital-only-media
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There is a story here: PS4 & Switch is outselling Xbox One S while being $80 more with no games bundled in.
Unless Microsoft somehow got Xbox One S manufacturing price down way below PS4 manufacturing price this is not good.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
It't actually expensive for an Xbox One bundle, back in 2013/early 2014 they had a fire sale, in some cases they bundled so many games and lowered the price that the console came to around 175$ (if you subtract the games at 60$ each).
That being said the S is a pretty good looking console, so there is that.
That being said the S is a pretty good looking console, so there is that.
captainraincoat
Banned
Gotta wash out that dirty Xbox positive news with some hot takes from an Amazon shopping site...you do realise vendors pay money to get their products featured higher right?
Iorv3th
Member
Doesn't make sense why MS is so low then.
The Mad Draklor
Member
The XB1 had a rather large drop in January whether we're talking about going from December 2018 to January 2019 or comparing Jan. 2018 to Jan. 2019. In comparison, the PS4 managed to remain relatively flat YOY. Much of Microsoft's big guns are being saved for the next generation, so don't expect the XB1's sales to improve.
No I'm washing out fake stories of a turn around with reality
I love the most of the things MS is doing lately but the stories of a turn around are false.
leo-j
Member
NPD after permenant ONE S price cut, and ONE X cut.
One s $229
One x $399
225,000
Vs
Ps4 at the same price it’s been since 2016:
Ps4 $299
Ps4 pro $399
285,000
Oh and this is Microsoft’s main and strongest market. Xbox one isn’t selling at all in Europe, and it’s dam near discontinued in Japan.
One s $229
One x $399
225,000
Vs
Ps4 at the same price it’s been since 2016:
Ps4 $299
Ps4 pro $399
285,000
Oh and this is Microsoft’s main and strongest market. Xbox one isn’t selling at all in Europe, and it’s dam near discontinued in Japan.
ReBurn
Gold Member
So you feel threatened somehow by people liking a game console you don't?
Amazon game charts don't disprove that Microsoft is working to turn their image around. You're really reaching here.
Coalponfire
Neo Member
My One S and two X’s serve my needs well. If they don’t serve you as efficiently that’s ok with me.
No I'm not threatened by lies .
There has been a fake campaign for the last year or so to make it seem as if Xbox One has turned things around but reality is things are still going the same way it was before.
Tripolygon
Banned
It seems like you are threatened by reality. Any thread that isn't all sunshine about your favorite console.
Tripolygon
Banned
Please create that thread, nobody is stopping you. You could have sooner ignored this thread than to whine in it because it is not positive about your favorite toy.
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Trogdor1123
Member
Are we still fighting over this still?
Pantz
Member
Not saying this is wrong, but with Amazon you have to keep in mind that they rank different SKU's separately. The PS4 and Switch you showed are the standard Vanilla SKU that seem to always get the best rankings. While Xbox One S doesn't seem to have a standard SKU readily for sale on Amazon anymore. There's lots of different Xbox One S SKU's and the Minecraft one you showed is even listed as (Discontinued).
Again, not saying that there would be any change, but without adding all the SKU's together it's hard to get an accurate picture of what the top 100 would really be.
Again, not saying that there would be any change, but without adding all the SKU's together it's hard to get an accurate picture of what the top 100 would really be.
I'm pretty sure that the fact that it's 2 PS4 & Switch SKU's before you get to the best selling Xbox One SKU would mean that they are most likely selling better.
CyberPanda
Banned
That’s the way it should be. I swear sales threads are so pointless. Do these people have stocks in these companies? I never understood the fascination. I want all companies to do good because competition is healthy, and it benefits us all.
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Top 100! Nice to see Xbox One's redemption. MS really turned things around.
Pantz
Member
Like, I said twice in my post that it was probably not wrong. Did you miss it?
Let's just say if you added a fair comparable number of the many different Xbox One S SKU's together to better match against the fewer and more limited special SKU's of PS4 and Switch, that Xbox One S could be more in the 40-70ish range. See what I mean, You can only really ballpark it. Maybe you won't see what I mean and that's ok too.
Now imagine dropping $499 for the launch phat xbox one and praising MS for letting you spend another $499 down the line.
nikolino840
Member
I don't care,i have the X and i'm playing everydayWhy do we keep getting these false stories of a Xbox One turn around & so on when it's lagging behind worse than ever even when you can get it for $80 cheaper than the competition with a game bundled in?
PlayStation have the brand ..Kids want PlayStation and not Xbox ..Just for the brand like Apple
The same reason the Google console Is a flop...in shops .. what people buy a Google console instead a PlayStation?
MiyazakiHatesKojima
Banned
Guys, stop making bait threads, especially console war bait threads.
Grinchy
Banned
You can't really make determinations on total sales based on Amazon sales charts. I don't doubt that the Xbox is selling poorly compared to the competition, but we don't really have the numbers on how bad it is and Amazon's data is not a substitute for the actual numbers.
The same is true of making the opposite claim, like randomly deciding that MS will hit 60M units based on nothing whatsoever.
The same is true of making the opposite claim, like randomly deciding that MS will hit 60M units based on nothing whatsoever.
GTR R35_Supra RZ
Banned
Question, why do these premium salt customers open a thread in retaliation when it's so apparent why they did it, fn embarrassing and it's adorable to watch how much effort is being made into this and cute pics collected for a post..Aweee
captainraincoat
Banned
Apologies for the late reply..i work with amazon on the FMCG side as a vendor and there are many ways to get your goods bumped up the viable list..most common way is higher commissioned sales..other ways are targeted marketing campaigns which have an incentive of better terms at the end of the agreed term of sale
The point im trying to make is that its not a very good guide to go off for something selling well or worse
GTR R35_Supra RZ
Banned
Wolfgang Jr
Banned
Well that because Xbox has no games.
WaterAstro
Member
The logic is simple: games sell consoles, but Amazon best sellers isn't an accurate metric to follow for this kind of statement.
