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Xbox One will likely hit 60 Million LTD in the end, what a turn around since 2013! [poll]

Do you think Microsoft turned things around for the brand since 2013?

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Tarkus98

Member
It’s a big IF but if Microsoft does indeed come out with its diskless console in May and if it costs $99 dollars and if it’s successful then I believe it could sell enough to hit 60mil.
 

demigod

Member
No It's not. At least not in the US new.

Official drop could work. If Microsoft was crazy and wanted to bleed money for the first digit of a double digit number to bump up twice.

But Microsoft will likely just ride the wave to 50 and keep profits high. No point in losong money for a insignificant sales increase of 10 million more.

Here, here and here. Pretty much every month so far this year and they’re still losing in NPD. Same goes for One X, lowest i’ve seen was $330.
 

Calibos

Member
Anyone that thinks not isn’t seeing the whole picture.

they didnt turn the ship for the xone. the xone is dead. the platform has nearly no fucking games.

they turneing the ship for next system tho

I have 537 digital games that prove you are a foolish fanboy. Someone ban this guy.
 
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Here, here and here. Pretty much every month so far this year and they’re still losing in NPD. Same goes for One X, lowest i’ve seen was $330.

So as I was saying the official price is not and it could work if they dropped it to $199.

But does Microsoft want to waste money just for 10 million more units? I think not likely.

They'll hit 50 though, ride the wave and keep profits high.
 

Ten_Fold

Member
Honestly I didn’t think it would hit 30m, so I think 60m is good. They just need to go hard like the did in the early 360 days
 

ethomaz

Banned
No It's not. At least not in the US new.

Official drop could work. If Microsoft was crazy and wanted to bleed money for the first digit of a double digit number to bump up twice.

But Microsoft will likely just ride the wave to 50 and keep profits high. No point in losong money for a insignificant sales increase of 10 million more.
In US yes... not one, two or three but dozen of times... XB1 sales are though promotion almost every month.

I understand that MS needs to do that because if not the sales could be abismal.
 
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s console that pretty much sells only during the holidays, it's o
Okay, so it doesn't have games you like and you could buy a PC to play MS exclusives. Doesn't change the fact that Xbox is still selling(unlike those two dead systems which launched a year before it) millions of units a year with all the major third party games. Not everyone is going to buy a gaming rig to play MS exclusives.

a platform that sells well only during the holidays, is not quite dead but almost there.
this year you'll see an even bigger drop in sales, since we're geting closer and closer to next gen.
 

Flayer

Member
X1 isn't close to 60million lifetime sales at all. What a weird thread...

What X1 needs is exclusives anyway. PS4 and Switch both have loads of great games you can only play on those consoles while X1 has nothing except a few sequels to series that peaked on the 360.
 

Ivellios

Member
It’s a big IF but if Microsoft does indeed come out with its diskless console in May and if it costs $99 dollars and if it’s successful then I believe it could sell enough to hit 60mil.

Is there any credible source about this $99 Xbox or it is just wishful thinking?
 

Tarkus98

Member
Is there any credible source about this $99 Xbox or it is just wishful thinking?
Was in a rumor thread along with the actual diskless One. Which is why I noted the “if’s”.
No confirmation by Microsoft.
 
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In US yes... not one, two or three but dozen of times... XB1 sales are though promotion almost every month.

I understand that MS needs to do that because if not the sales could be abismal.

And nine of the official promotions are $199. Hence why most people buying Xbox Ones are paying $299.

Y'all are being too fanboyish here, the 15 guys on slick deals aren't where most people are buying Xbox ones.

I also said this isn't likely happening.
 

ethomaz

Banned
And nine of the official promotions are $199. Hence why most people buying Xbox Ones are paying $299.

Y'all are being too fanboyish here, the 15 guys on slick deals aren't where most people are buying Xbox ones.

I also said this isn't likely happening.
Most people buying Xbox One at $299? What world did you live?

The avg. price of Xbox One in NPD is sub $250.

Matt posted this data some times last year... this year is probably lower.
 
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UltimaKilo

Gold Member
That thought is repeated on forums all the time but Xbox is still selling millions of units a year.

Yes they are selling some, but not enough to finally bring the division into the black. The GameCube sold millions a year too, it wasn’t enough.

Microsoft Band 2 and Windows phone sold millions a year, wasn’t enough to be profitable.

The best thing MS could do for its stock is stop selling hardware and double down on services.
 
Microsoft: they talk a lot (Great PR) -- I mean they can show up on stage at E3 and give us a nice show for two hours, without anything really special.

They also have pretty nice extra features on their platform, I mean, backward compatibility.

But in all honestly, I'm not sure what use is their console, the interface is clunky (to put it nicely -- nobody should have to get an MS certification to operate a console).

So, they should concentrate on creating games that make their platform stand out instead of cheap talk, it's not as if the PS4/PS4 Pro were not competitive in their respective market segment (the PS4 is the only option in its segment, the PRO is good enough to give you a nice bump, even if it's not as powerful as the X, you still have all the benefits of a Sony console, which is not the topic of this discussion).
 

Xenon

Member
Wow don't really get all the no answers. MS has done an amazing job. Through software they improved performance by trimming the OS down. They turned their stance on Indies (something that everyone seemed concerned with when that was the bulk of what the PS4 was offering.). BC support that is unrivaled in the industry. The X was mid season refresh done right. You have to have blinders on not to see that. At the end of the day many seem to hate the box simply because it's not from Sony. Because that's who they move the goalposts to benefit.
 

leo-j

Member
I mean there was a rumor Microsoft would release a disc less Xbox one console to promote game pass.

If they launch it (this year) at $129 or less, I think it could push the Xbox one over 50 million.
 

ReBurn

Gold Member
I think Microsoft is doing a good job of turning things around. Hopefully it pays off next generation.
 

93xfan

Banned
Halo 4’s MP and the weaker. More expensive console really made me lose faith in the brand and made me happy to abandon MS.

But with backwards compatibility and MCC (which now works great), they’ve really brought me back.

Bonuses include:
-having the best latency on most games
-freesync support
-phone app letting me not use a headset for parties
 
It is good that Microsoft turned things around with the Xbox One, but it’s going to miraculously sell another 10 to 20 million in the next year or two? Maybe if it drops to $99 to $149 with a free pack in or something and even that’s stretching it.
 
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Pimpbaa

Member
What X1 needs is exclusives anyway. PS4 and Switch both have loads of great games you can only play on those consoles while X1 has nothing except a few sequels to series that peaked on the 360.

While this is true, it is far too late to try and salvage the xbox one with exclusives (too close to next gen). Hopefully they up their game with more exclusives next gen.
 

odhiex

Member
I think It is definitely improving (compare to 2013). I think the XBOX One X is a good looking console and the Game Pass is a very fascinating service.

However, if I am being honest with you, the (XBOX) brand do not accelerate much worldwide. Especially in Europe and Asia (including the southeast asia), the PlayStation and the Nintendo(s) were miles ahead in terms of brand recognition. The 360 was quite popular back then in my country, but I have only seen a few of my friends owned an XBOX One. The exclusive games also do not dominate the conversations. In my circle, many of them owned gaming PCs.

I am still interested to see what is the future of the XBOX brand going to be like. Since there are only two options in the polls, I have to pick no. The XBOX console did not turn around this gen, we would likely see a convergence of the XBOX brand into something bigger than just console(s).
 

Spukc

always chasing the next thrill
Lol at people claming xbox did not turn around since 2013.

Xbox one x best looking gfx console + design? Y U P

B E A S T
 
Most people buying Xbox One at $299? What world did you live?

The avg. price of Xbox One in NPD is sub $250.

Matt posted this data some times last year... this year is probably lower.

That's because the Xbox was $250 diring the time frame it sells best.

The average person wanting to buy an Xbox now is paying $299 or maybe $30 less for some other retailers. The average consumer isn't buyung Xbox Ones from slickdeals or Ebay new.
 

ethomaz

Banned
That's because the Xbox was $250 diring the time frame it sells best.

The average person wanting to buy an Xbox now is paying $299 or maybe $30 less for some other retailers. The average consumer isn't buyung Xbox Ones from slickdeals or Ebay new.
Wut?

Do you know the actual Xbox One S MSRP is $250, no?
And due MS promotion all the time you can find it way lower than $250 bundled with games.
 
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Wut?

Do you know the actual Xbox One S MSRP is $250, no?
And due MS promotion all the time you can find it way lower than $250.

You're lying and you're also not from America so this is an argument you cant win.
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/consoles

All S models are $299 and that's the official MSRP. Some retailers might have it a bit less but that's generally the price. The average consumer isn't buying used and if they are they are buying them at GS, Best Buy, or Wal-Mart. They arent going to slick deals, searching discontinued units on Amazon, or other avenues people on neogaf would buy from to get it "way less" so yes most people are paying around $299. Yes that's the official msrp.

The reason why the average price is less is because Xbox One was cheaper during it's best selling months moving the average.
 

ethomaz

Banned
You're lying and you're also not from America so this is an argument you cant win.
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/consoles

All S models are $299 and that's the official MSRP. Some retailers might have it a bit less but that's generally the price. The average consumer isn't buying used and if they are they are buying them at GS, Best Buy, or Wal-Mart. They arent going to slick deals, searching discontinued units on Amazon, or other avenues people on neogaf would buy from to get it "way less" so yes most people are paying around $299. Yes that's the official msrp.

The reason why the average price is less is because Xbox One was cheaper during it's best selling months moving the average.
I don't know why MS did not update the site on price-cuts but they permanently did a price cut to $250 in January across all retails.



https://www.neogaf.com/threads/micr...s-price-250-xbox-one-x-449-at-retail.1471688/

But maybe it was only "limited" price cut that happened every month.
 
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I don't know why MS did not update the site on price-cuts but they permanently did a price cut to $250 in January across all retails.



https://www.neogaf.com/threads/micr...s-price-250-xbox-one-x-449-at-retail.1471688/

But maybe it was only "limited" price cut that happened every month.


It didnt hapoen every month, but you sure want to believe it did for no real reason.

The point is MSRP is $299. Nothing more to talk about. If you find it for less buy yourself a 2 cheese burgers and a large fry from 5guys for $31 bucks with the spare cash.
 

Stuart360

Member
I'm not certain it will hit 60mil, but if it does then thats a good solid turnout after that disastrous launch and reveal. Lower than the 85mil of 360, but far higher than the 26mil of the orig Xbox, and even higer than some passed gen consoles that were thought of as a success.
With the way people talk about the XB1, you would think it sold Ouya numbers, when it hasnt, its just underperformed.
 

Dabaus

Banned
There is no evidence, absolutely none, to suggest xbox is currently at 45 million sold. Its barely at 41 million.
 
There is no evidence, absolutely none, to suggest xbox is currently at 45 million sold. Its barely at 41 million.

It was leaked by insiders and Zhuge it was at 41 million by the start of this year.

But of course you only go into xbox threads for toxicity. Like Daniels. Used to get consequences when you did nothing to contribute. Which you never do. But I guess you're somehow getting a pass.

Post history reads like youtube comments.
 

Dabaus

Banned
It was leaked by insiders and Zhuge it was at 41 million by the start of this year.

But of course you only go into xbox threads for toxicity. Like Daniels. Used to get consequences when you did nothing to contribute. Which you never do. But I guess you're somehow getting a pass.

Post history reads like youtube comments.

Even if zhuge was 100 percent correct about the 41 million at the beginning of the year, where did xbox sell an additional 4 million in less than 3 months? You are aware that in all of 2018 xbox sold like 7 million world wide? So how did it sell well over 50 percent of 2018's totals in less that 3 months with a 101k NPD result to boot? Please answer this.
 
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ethomaz

Banned
It didnt hapoen every month, but you sure want to believe it did for no real reason.

The point is MSRP is $299. Nothing more to talk about. If you find it for less buy yourself a 2 cheese burgers and a large fry from 5guys for $31 bucks with the spare cash.
Weird because every NPD thread it was discussed the price and Xbox One S is most of time sub-$250 and that is why the avg. price is way lower than PS4 but maybe I'm remembering wrong.
 
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Is this from reliable Chinese outlet sowan? ;)

Microsoft will discontinue the Xbox One after the first year the new consoles are out. It's not going to sell like the 360 post gen so no point keeping it on the shelf.

Maybe 52 million max.
 

demigod

Member
It didnt hapoen every month, but you sure want to believe it did for no real reason.

The point is MSRP is $299. Nothing more to talk about. If you find it for less buy yourself a 2 cheese burgers and a large fry from 5guys for $31 bucks with the spare cash.

$249 is the NEW MSRP and there's been sales for sub $200.
 

DanielsM

Banned
I'm not certain it will hit 60mil, but if it does then thats a good solid turnout after that disastrous launch and reveal. Lower than the 85mil of 360, but far higher than the 26mil of the orig Xbox, and even higer than some passed gen consoles that were thought of as a success.
With the way people talk about the XB1, you would think it sold Ouya numbers, when it hasnt, its just underperformed.

The sales at launch were actually good, you have it backwards though. They are basically back to original Xbox numbers which were a disaster, generally speaking. I expect the Xbox as a Console to continue to struggle, my guess right is 50m units by November 2020 at current rate might be hard. The whole console wars thing is basically over, Microsoft really really doesn't care if it sells consoles, only the console warriors care at this point. I'm going with under 6m for this year, but I might change my position as they could get a spike if they release a $100-125 box, but its not going to change the numbers drastically. If they announce a Xbox Two and officially announce the ability to play Xbox titles on Win10, going with under 5m units.
 
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HeresJohnny

Member
Their behavior has been abhorrent still, which is better than being flat out anti-consumer as they were before. Instead of blatantly saying fuck you to everyone, now they're content to just make promises and schmooze people into buying several iterations of hardware during the cycle. And people are still doing it, which is reinforcing already bad behavior.
 
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DanielsM

Banned
Even if zhuge was 100 percent correct about the 41 million at the beginning of the year, where did xbox sell an additional 4 million in less than 3 months? You are aware that in all of 2018 xbox sold like 7 million world wide? So how did it sell well over 50 percent of 2018's totals in less that 3 months with a 101k NPD result to boot? Please answer this.

If I were to guess based on some of the raw numbers, its very possible that Xbox hasn't hit 1 million units this year. (I usually get number at the end of the year so, its mostly a guess but..... I would probably take a $5 bet on the under a million units...I would probably take the under on 800k as well)
 
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Dabaus

Banned
Where ya at Voost? Hiding? MS check didn't get direct deposited yet?

Even if zhuge was 100 percent correct about the 41 million at the beginning of the year, where did xbox sell an additional 4 million in less than 3 months? You are aware that in all of 2018 xbox sold like 7 million world wide? So how did it sell well over 50 percent of 2018's totals in less that 3 months with a 101k NPD result to boot? Please answer this.
 
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$249 is the NEW MSRP and there's been sales for sub $200.

No It's not, I literally linked Microsoft's own website, the msrp is $299. I don't understand why you anti-Xbox guys keep doing this shit, you complain that Ops thread is shitting up the forum then you guys come in shitting up the forum in the opposite direction.

It's the same posts from both sides over and over, are the mods fucking asleep?

You dont make the forum better by claiming Voost is shitting up the forum and use it as an excuse to shit up the forum yourselves. Some of The things you're arguing barely matters holy shit.

This entire thread doesn't have any viable content in it. Nothing.
 

Dabaus

Banned
If I were to guess based on some of the raw numbers, its very possible that Xbox hasn't hit 1 million units this year. (I usually get number at the end of the year so, its mostly a guess but..... I would probably take a $5 bet on the under a million units...I would probably take the under on 800k as well)
I refuse to believe its even at 41 million, let alone 45.


Wtf is this gamefaqs? PM the OP if you want his attention.
Ive noticed that whenever these MS astroturf bots get called out they play the victim and accuse people with bringing facts of being like game faqs. Im guessing it part of the script theyre given. If someone brings up tangible fact, play victim and accuse them of gamefaqs. Folks like von voost and MS Huntr bring this board down to the game faqs level, not people rebutting the nonstop nonsense.
 

demigod

Member
No It's not, I literally linked Microsoft's own website, the msrp is $299. I don't understand why you anti-Xbox guys keep doing this shit, you complain that Ops thread is shitting up the forum then you guys come in shitting up the forum in the opposite direction.

It's the same posts from both sides over and over, are the mods fucking asleep?

You dont make the forum better by claiming Voost is shitting up the forum and use it as an excuse to shit up the forum yourselves. Some of The things you're arguing barely matters holy shit.

This entire thread doesn't have any viable content in it. Nothing.

And you missed the link where he posted a price drop by MS. MSRP is $249, look here and here. Stop crying to the mods, there's a report button if you think people are lying.
 
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