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[DanielsM]

You guys are forgetting that Amazon is also entering the gaming market.

Article is 5 years old in 2 weeks.

Amazon Just Pushed Game Consoles One Step Closer to Death

https://www.wired.com/2014/04/amazon-fire-tv-gaming/

All they are doing is rinsing and repeating. This is a silly thread.

 

[IzukuMidoriya]

Wait, Google's making a console? Guessing it's going to be some sort of normie Android mobile game hogwash.

 

[Voost Kain]

This OP has no agenda at all

Last week it was “MS has an update coming out that will doom the PS4” and now its “Sony or Nintendo about to be pushed out.”

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Oh so we are lying now and pretending that from the same source there wasn't a "Sony has a secret weapon MS is doomed" thread. There seems to be some kind of group artificially spinning things into Xbox narratives and ignoring any discussion that has nothing to do with Microsoft to pretend it's only been about Microsoft.

Holy crap guys. Did Microsoft burn your house down?

 

[demigod]

Oh so we are lying now and pretending that from the same source there wasn't a "Sony has a secret weapon MS is doomed" thread. There seems to be some kind of group artificially spinning things into Xbox narratives and ignoring any discussion that has nothing to do with Microsoft to pretend it's only been about Microsoft.

Holy crap guys. Did Microsoft burn your house down?

Can you please enlighten me to that thread, I must’ve missed it.

 

[CyberPanda]

Article is 5 years old in 2 weeks.


https://www.wired.com/2014/04/amazon-fire-tv-gaming/

All they are doing is rinsing and repeating. This is a silly thread.

Damn it. I wanted more completion.

 

[DanielsM]

Damn it. I wanted more completion.

Don't forget about the Mad Box.

Earlier this week, Slightly Mad Studios CEO Ian Bell announced his company was developing the Mad Box, a new standalone video game console to rival the PlayStation and Xbox.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/first-looks-at-new-mad-box-gaming-consoles-possibl/1100-6464167/

Pricing and release details for the Mad Box have yet to be announced, but Bell says the system will ship around the world in about three years and be "competitive with upcoming console prices."

 

[bitbydeath]

Apparently you haven't been paying attention to the shifts happening within the company lately.

Not saying they'll dedicate an entire server farm to Xbox, but what they have been doing is insane within the Xbox division.

Everyone keeps acting like the entirety of Azure will be used soley for Xbox.

It is laughable.

Sony doesn’t need anywhere near as many servers to handle gaming.

 

[DanielsM]

Everyone keeps acting like the entirety of Azure will be used soley for Xbox.

It is laughable.

Sony doesn’t need anywhere near as many servers to handle gaming.

Most of the services in Azure (or any other cloud provider) work just like they would on premises (generally speaking), which is what allows enterprise businesses to move in and out of cloud service or mix match. "Cloud" is just a made up word of marketing, cloud services have been around since the dawn of the internet, we just didn't call them cloud services. There are neat technologies (dockers) and there is nothing wrong with cloud services but there is a ton of over promising. What it offers to me is scale and more of a common platform - it gives businesses the ability to have to not worry about individual hardware components.

Does Sony offer cloud service, yup they sure do. I provide cloud services from my house, I just don't offer them to the general public. There are some neat services in Azure as well as AWS, or insert provider, but for the consumer this really doesn't mean too much at least directly and very little indirectly. They people saying cloud this or cloud that.... generally have no idea what it is, or they wouldn't be on their soapboxes.

 

[Voost Kain]

Can you please enlighten me to that thread, I must’ve missed it.

Sure, you see that filter option at the top of the thread page? Type in my name and all the threads come up from me, and you'll see the 3-4 Sony threads doing that. Not that hard to lean how to use Neogaf.com

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

The problem with Microsoft and by extension Google is they think consoles are ‘easy money’, they want to reach billions of people and are not content with less than 100 million.

Nintendo and Sony understand their customers, they know what they expect and have the contacts and creative atmosphere to deliver in a way no other platform holders have.

Exclusives make up a large part of my library and I value those experiences far more than anything other devs put out.

As I said in another thread Gaming is PlayStation in Europe. They control the market and 70 to 90% of gaming devices sold are PlayStation depending on what country you’re in.

Finally, PlayStation has the biggest streaming platform already and can offer more than anyone else due to their vast exclusive library.

Sony has been patient and generous with its investments in gaming, you will not find other corporations so giving.

So, let’s say for instance the prayers of all the Xbox fans was and Sony dropped out of the industry......I ask, what would you be left with in terms of high quality single player games?

These corporations have no interest, they want to invest small and win big. That’s what they are conditioned into. From there the whole industry would crumble....
Only Nintendo would probably remain.

THIS. Every person that loves videogames cannot welcome this business model and approach to the industry. These companies don't give a damn about videogames, they are just gold diggers. Fortunately there are still enough of us who dig in this hobby for quality games rather than dumb fun on uninspired GaaS titles.

 

[demigod]

Sure, you see that filter option at the top of the thread page? Type in my name and all the threads come up from me, and you'll see the 3-4 Sony threads doing that. Not that hard to lean how to use Neogaf.com

I still don’t see this Sony thread where it spells doom for MS. What’s so hard for you to link it? You know you could’ve typed less by linking it.

 

[llien]

Chromebooks? They entered the Laptop market eventually bringing the knockout blow and eradicated the Windows and Linux netbook market, while placing themselves as more than just another Netbook (even though that's what they basically are) and managed to get a foothold in education as well taking up a good chunk of marketshare.

It is arguable exactly what has killed the netbook market, I'd insist it's tablets in general, and how is "eradicating netbooks" a sign of success? Google took a sizable portion of notebook market? How much exactly?

Well at least for around 7-8 years. Now they it seems Chrometablets are being abandoned, and it seems CHromebooks future is questionable as low-end windows devices and Apple products have kind of chipped away at whatever relevance Chromebook used to have, but it was a good run.

Which Apple products?

 

[Chittagong]

Google throws a lot of shit at the wall and very little of it sticks. Be it Android Wear, Android TV, Nest, Motorola, Google Glass... they have the resources to try stuff, but they seem to lack the persistence to see it through. Will gaming be different? Time will tell.

 

[Jubenhimer]

Nintendo's probably not going anywhere. They've already distanced themselves from the traditional console market, and made a product that fills a new market rather than compete in a saturated one. Assuming Google's project IS in fact a console, I think the big 3 going forward will just be Sony, Microsoft, and Google. With Google and Apple in the smartphone space, and Nintendo and whoever else holding down the hybrid gaming tablet fort. That is, assuming Google's initiative is successful as well.

 

[Leonidas]

Sony has the most to lose in terms of market-share with Google joining the fight, but I don't see anyone being pushed out any time soon. It'd probably take a few generations for something like that to happen.
At any rate more competition is always welcome, can't wait to see what Google, Microsoft and Sony bring for next-generation gaming

 

[Voost Kain]

It is arguable exactly what has killed the netbook market, I'd insist it's tablets in general, and how is "eradicating netbooks" a sign of success? Google took a sizable portion of notebook market? How much exactly?



Which Apple products?

The peak of Chromebooks was 25% of the total desktop/laptop market then dropped back to 20 in the holidays.

Windows laptops in the cheap benefited by Windows 10, which could run on low end machines well. The cheaper mactops also chipped away over time.

Now It's not looking rosy but Chromebooks we're relevant for around 6 years or so.

 

[FF:Enhanced_Reality]

Like many other users have commented, the one with the most to lose here is Microsoft. Two North American corporations that'll have very similar first party line-ups. It'll simply be a case of who's going to throw more cash at it. However, Microsoft have already displayed that they are happy to release their content on other platforms so I imagine it'd be easier for them to go multi-platform than it would for Google to push Sony/Microsoft out of the market when they benefit from/need console sales much more than Microsoft who can happily live as third party and a service provider.

 

[Badlucktroll]

Is this real?

 

[wipeout364]

If google goes full on which is questionable, Sony will be hit hardest. As stated Xbox is a small part of microsoft’s Business that is extremely complementary to one of Microsoft’s core business Azure.

Xbox is part of Azure’s advertising. Microsoft does not need Xbox to make loads of cash they need it to break even and act as a proof of concept for their tech. Nadella has said as much and he is most definitely all in on Server infrastructure ie Azure.

Sony will be screwed if PS4 revenue drops that’s it. Nintendo is used to running a tight ship I do not believe Sony can do what Nintendo does.

That’s my opinion.

 

[VincentMatts]

The ones hit the hardest will the ones that aren’t prepared for the future, which will be game streaming and games accessible everywhere, any device, anytime.

Those are Nintendo and Sony. I know this is a pro Sony forum, but as far as I can tell, they seem to be resting on their laurels and hoping that traditional consoles will continue to sell as they do now. They won’t.

 

[FF:Enhanced_Reality]

The ones hit the hardest will the ones that aren’t prepared for the future, which will be game streaming and games accessible everywhere, any device, anytime.

Those are Nintendo and Sony. I know this is a pro Sony forum, but as far as I can tell, they seem to be resting on their laurels and hoping that traditional consoles will continue to sell as they do now. They won’t.

I would wait until the next PlayStation console to be out before making those conclusions. Sony have PSNow and they are likely in possession of knowledge of Googles plans to act accordingly. I'm sure Kodera is working on that very strategy as we speak.

 

[Dargor]

The ones hit the hardest will the ones that aren’t prepared for the future, which will be game streaming and games accessible everywhere, any device, anytime.

Those are Nintendo and Sony. I know this is a pro Sony forum, but as far as I can tell, they seem to be resting on their laurels and hoping that traditional consoles will continue to sell as they do now. They won’t.

So Sony being the only company that actually has a game streaming service right now is the one less prepared? Do you guys even think before you type this stuff?

 

[demigod]

So Sony being the only company that actually has a game streaming service right now is the one less prepared? Do you guys even think before you type this stuff?

Next thing they gonna tell us is MS will be the first one to have VR.

 

[rəddəM]

The ones hit the hardest will the ones that aren’t prepared for the future, which will be game streaming and games accessible everywhere, any device, anytime.

Those are Nintendo and Sony. I know this is a pro Sony forum, but as far as I can tell, they seem to be resting on their laurels and hoping that traditional consoles will continue to sell as they do now. They won’t.

It's not a pro Sony forum, it's a gaming forum. It happens to be that Sony is the best one at gaming right now.
And gamers want quality over practically. No latencies, no compression.
The fastest and best picture and controls you can get.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

Isn’t the Google console rumored to be streaming only? I don’t see how that will remove Sony or Nintendo out of the console race with their current strategies. Streaming didn’t exactly work wonders for Sony and we don’t know how well streaming going to work out for Microsoft either.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

The ones hit the hardest will the ones that aren’t prepared for the future, which will be game streaming and games accessible everywhere, any device, anytime.

Those are Nintendo and Sony. I know this is a pro Sony forum, but as far as I can tell, they seem to be resting on their laurels and hoping that traditional consoles will continue to sell as they do now. They won’t.

If this is the future, count me out. Streaming for movies is generally sufficient, but video games are going to be much more challenging especially certain genres. Sony to my knowledge started console game streaming and I don’t think it set the world on fire.

Pragmatically speaking, I would venture to guess Sony has found a way to improve it’s streaming service after all of these years to hold their own against Microsoft. I doubt streaming will be fully embraced unless these companies can make it near impeccable. As an alternative, it will probably be fine, but I doubt it will be a replacement for traditional gaming. Hope you got some proficient internet speed as well because not only will you need that, but what’s going to happen with data caps?

 

[CyberPanda]

If this is the future, count me out. Streaming for movies is generally sufficient, but video games are going to be much more challenging especially certain genres. Sony to my knowledge started console game streaming and I don’t think it set the world on fire.

Pragmatically speaking, I would venture to guess Sony has found a way to improve it’s streaming service after all of these years to hold their own against Microsoft. I doubt streaming will be fully embraced unless these companies can make it near impeccable. As an alternative, it will probably be fine, but I doubt it will be a replacement for traditional gaming. Hope you got some proficient internet speed as well because not only will you need that, but what’s going to happen with data caps?

We can always play board games if streaming ends up being really lame.

 

[Weiji]

I have a hard time believing that Google will make games I'm interested in. They'll probably go for the casual market, IE aimed at the ladies who like cell phone games, and then quietly bow out a couple years from now.

 

[CyberPanda]

I have a hard time believing that Google will make games I'm interested in. They'll probably go for the casual market, IE aimed at the ladies who like cell phone games, and then quietly bow out a couple years from now.

What cell phone games do ladies like beaids Tinder?

 

[SoulChamber]

You honestly think that Nintendo's going to be the one to go out of all companies involved? Ha!

 

[highrider]

Sony and Nintendo have made the long term investments in first party games, they aren’t worried about Google.

 

[NoxNyctores]

The only one leaving after Google joins the gaming market is Google themselves after they stop support for their console 3 days after release

 

[spookyfish]

Yeah, I disagree with your premise. If Google enters the race, the most similar “ecosystem” would be Microsoft. That makes one of the consoles redundant.

 

[wzy]

There are like five topics on this board that have nothing to do with Xbox people writing fan fiction.

 

[fallingdove]

Sure, you see that filter option at the top of the thread page? Type in my name and all the threads come up from me, and you'll see the 3-4 Sony threads doing that. Not that hard to lean how to use Neogaf.com

Ha!

Your threads amount to:

Hello fellow gamers:

Sony is da best! ...some might say, except their games really aren’t that good and Microsoft is so much better.

Microsoft is poised to destroy everyone next generation! They really are. I should know because I read stuff, here is everything I read.

AOC is the worst right!!? Just a few more non-Microsoft posts and surely I will appear impartial... Yes, just a few more posts.

 

[TheGreatYosh]

It’s time to break up Google.

 

[crowbrow]

Only for Xbox fanboys losing means winning lol

 

[Airbus Jr]

Sony and Nintendo pushed out by a nonexistent console ?

why not include Xbox ?

This is a very predictable article made up by xbox fanboys

go home op youre drunk

 

[llien]

The peak of Chromebooks was 25% of the total desktop/laptop market then dropped back to 20 in the holidays.

Which year was that? In 2013 they were at 1%.
Hm, maybe 25% of "netbook" kind of the market?

 

[CyberPanda]

It’s time to break up Google.

It's never going to happen.

 

[ViolentP]

Whatever happens I will either adapt or move on. Nothing for me to prepare for when I'm not emotionally or financially invested.

 

[Freedom Gate Co.]

Which year was that? In 2013 they were at 1%.
Hm, maybe 25% of "netbook" kind of the market?

He has no clue what he's saying.

Chromebooks didnt kill netbooks chromebook took netbooks place, and netbooks were dead.

So Chromebooks have made zero progress since they were launched. They are already having chromebook engineers going to other parts of the company.

It's dead jim.

 

[TheGreatYosh]

It's never going to happen.

Oh, I’m aware.

 

[mckmas8808]

If anyone needs to worry about a Google console it's Microsoft

Yeah, I'm not sure how this isn't the obvious choice to leave first.

 

[Dabaus]

If Google succeeds it wont be sony or Nintendo that's going anywhere. Microsoft has already conceded the hardware front and if google has a competent streaming service that leaves MS in a really bad position.

Oh a von voost thread? Explains the clickbait shit post of a thread title.

 

[Krakin]

How the hell do you keep the one company doing the worst, out of the equation? lol

 

[demigod]

How the hell do you keep the one company doing the worst, out of the equation? lol

By being an unpaid astroturfer.

 

[Shubh_C63]

Well if Google does succeeds, which they won't in traditional AAA gaming space, MS is the only one which looks on shaky grounds. Nintendo has their own thing cut out while Google "android games" might pose a similar threat to their type of games but c'mon, it's Nintendo.

Sony will face some hardship but their first party exclusives are unparalleled so atleast they can ensure they will move hardware even if they fall back a little in streaming space (which is weird since PSNow was earlier than everything).

 

[Gavon West]

Everyone keeps acting like the entirety of Azure will be used soley for Xbox.

It is laughable.

Sony doesn’t need anywhere near as many servers to handle gaming.

Sony is already setting expectations for their streaming service as we speak. They'll more than likely have their own streaming service, but they basically admitted they aren't going to the lengths that the competition is as they won't be able to compete head to head with Microsoft and Google.

Nothing wrong with admitting that cloud gaming is a serious weak point for Sony and has been for some time now, plus its more expensive. Because you offer a similar service, doesn't automatically put you in the same ball park as your competition. Sony knows this.

Search the Internet. The article is out there about Sony admitting they'll still stick with what they've been known for which is traditionL great SP games.

 

[Jigsaah]

Google doesn't have a community. The Big 3 consoles will have repeat customers next gen and they have all been doing a great job keeping their customers relatively happy, despite some missteps. There is simply not enough for Google to fix, to make people want to move exclusively to their platform. What they are hoping for is what all the game companies hope for. To win the casual market. They got it in spades in terms of mobile games, but I wouldn't really call that a community.

Google's console will not make a dent immediately. We'll see what happens over time. The controller patent design itself makes it a no-go for me.