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So? You really think you're that special of a PC gamer that the Epic Store should absolutely drop their strategic roadmap and focus on making amends with you?.
LOL, you really don't understand demographics, do you?
So? You really think you're that special of a PC gamer that the Epic Store should absolutely drop their strategic roadmap and focus on making amends with you?.
LOL, you really don't understand demographics, do you?
Maybe I don't, but I'm sure whoever is looking at that at Epic knows what they're doing a lot better than us.
Also, your ardent faith in the wisdom of the wise heads of Epic is pretty amusing tbh.
It shouldn't be. They, pretty obviously, know how to foster products into success.
I think CrustyBritches sums it up nicely. Without copying PUBG, Epic wasn't exactly dominating up until now. They've sense enough to know that the Fortnite money won't last, so they're attempting to capitalise on it and strong-arm their way into the digital distribution market for the long term, but they're operating under the delusion that exclusivity alone is going to buy long term loyalty and a natural transition to their mediocre featureless store. To quote the bard Morrissey 'It says nothing to me about my life'
Really? So Epic is really only here because of Fortnite, you say? So Unreal Tournament was nothing, right? Unreal Engine, also a big flop, right? Gears of War, that wasn't a thing, right?
To say Epic is only here because of a PUBG ripoff either tells me you're 12 or that you haven't been paying attention. Which is it?
At this point, you're only here because you feel a need to win this argument, which isn't going to happen. All you got is that Epic has a store which is currently lacking in features, which is meaningless. #1, because they'll continually update it and believing otherwise is ridiculous. #2, because they're trying to make up for it by having exclusive games on their store and, no matter how much that hurts your feelings, that's not a crime.
No I think the engine was, to be honest. They nearly abandoned game development altogether because the engine was so much more lucrative.Get over yourself. Fortnites success is what has given them the necessary war chest.
You sure I'm the one who needs to get over himself? I'm not the one asking for a company to stop doing something profitable because it rubs me the wrong way.Get over yourself. Fortnites success is what has given them the necessary war chest.
There is nothing wrong even if it is forever exclusive.this is the positive side of capitalism. competition. I see nothing wrong with buying exclusives as long as its temporary.
Really? So Epic is really only here because of Fortnite, you say? So Unreal Tournament was nothing, right? Unreal Engine, also a big flop, right? Gears of War, that wasn't a thing, right?
To say Epic is only here because of a PUBG ripoff either tells me you're 12 or that you haven't been paying attention. Which is it?
At this point, you're only here because you feel a need to win this argument, which isn't going to happen. All you got is that Epic has a store which is currently lacking in features, which is meaningless. #1, because they'll continually update it and believing otherwise is ridiculous. #2, because they're trying to make up for it by having exclusive games on their store and, no matter how much that hurts your feelings, that's not a crime.
What's this, 1984's Newspeak?Exclusivity is basically a pro-consumer move
What that even means?What's this, 1984's Newspeak?
You sure I'm the one who needs to get over himself? I'm not the one asking for a company to stop doing something profitable because it rubs me the wrong way.
No I think the engine was, to be honest. They nearly abandoned game development altogether because the engine was so much more lucrative.
What that even means?
Exclusivity is indeed a move that give more and better games to consumers... how that can't be pro-consumer? lol
You guys perhaps lives in a bubble.
It is a petty easy to understand:
- Dev has $x million to make a game
- Dev has $x million to make a game plus more $y million due the exclusivity deal
What situation is better for consumers?
The better for me, consumer, will always be a health industry where devs have more money to aim for more and better games and not a industry where a devs is near bankrupt because they didn't have a exclusive deal to help they reach their goals with a game.
Think a bit about.
Please, you've brought nothing to the thread. Not the even the ability to present a cogent argument. Keep stanning for Sweeney though.
#1, because they'll continually update it and believing otherwise is ridiculous. #2, because they're trying to make up for it by having exclusive games on their store and, no matter how much that hurts your feelings, that's not a crime.
Really, is that the best you got for getting out of this argument? 'Cause I can keep shutting you down for thinking a company owes you anything.
Also, nice job telling someone they can't present a cogent argument using a poorly written sentence.
I'm a PC gamer, not a console warrior. I prefer my games to be on as many platforms as possible, so that everybody can enjoy them. I really don't care about exclusivity, in fact I despise it. Epic really isn't doing me any favor with their exclusives, on the contrary and I find it really ridiculous how you are trying to spin that as a positive.
And I can't believe I have to explain this...
Look, I'll make it simple, exclusivity is never a good deal for the consumer. Even on consoles, it only means that you either need to buy all systems or that you're missing out on nice games.
In this situation, IN SPECIFIC, exclusivity is not making you dish out another $400 you don't have to play that game. ALL of these clients can be installed on the computer you already have.
You're not getting it. Epic is taking away my consumer choice by forcing me on their cretinous store, giving me no other choice but to support their shitty business practices if I want to play a game I like. That's not something I wish to support as a PC gamer and I certainly don't like them taking away my freedom of choice.
Exclusivity is not and will never be in the interest of the consumer.
Well... People who chose to be arbitrarily loyal to Xbox in the beginning of this generation do have to wait until the beginning of the next one to start getting the new batch of first party titles, so... Guess you'll be waiting for a while then.
THIS IS NOT HAPPENING ON CONSOLES.
YOU ALREADY HAVE ALL THE SYSTEMS.
See you on the other side.
OH HO HO HO...That doesn't even make sense in the context of this discussion. As I said before, this exclusivity bullcrap is the exact reason why I avoid consoles in the first place. You were the one who vehemently disagreed with me in capital letters on bringing consoles into this:
Now you're suddenly coming up with the exact same sh*t that I'm opposed against, desperately trying to levy it as an argument against me. Don't be ridiculous.
Let me put this simply for you: before Epic entered the market, Half-Life 3 was never coming out and Left 4 Dead 3 had maybe a 50% chance of ever surfacing. In the future, as Epic gets a greater foothold, those odds are gonna get a lot higher.
I have both stores installed on my PC. You're the one arbitrarily making your PC into a Steam machine. I'm not waiting.
Have fun, I guess. I'd rather stick to my principles and not embrace consumer hostile business practices for the sake of shiny new toys to play with. I'm an adult not a spoiled kid who needs to brown-nose Epic's rear end for his desperate gaming fix.
This idea that the appearance of the EGS is somehow going to galvanise a developer whose largely gone off the boil of late to get their shit together and push out the SP conclusion to a franchise they'd basically abandoned for 12 years and the bulk of whose player base has largely moved on is at best wishful thinking.
This stoic adult shit is not flying. You're in a videogame forum, just like me, posting in a topic about this very subject. That you care is a given.
Maybe you don't need to brag about the games you play, but you sure like bragging about those good ol' principles of your. In a videogame forum.I never said that I didn't care, on the contrary. Otherwise I'd just jump on the Epic bandwagon like the little consumerist sheeple that you are. The fact that I'm on a video game forum doesn't mean that I can't have reasoned discussion. Contrary to you, I don't need to brag about the games I play and I certainly don't need to be a day one consumer only to rub it into other people's faces. Because that's about the level of your pitiful discourse. If you think I'm impressed by that, think again.
No, I'm not the one coming up with this. I have both stores installed on my PC. You're the one arbitrarily making your PC into a Steam machine. I'm not waiting.
You already lost the argument at the GIF-ful post.
Oh, and you also failed to realize the names I used in the example were just for show. My argument was for MORE games, not THOSE games.
Maybe you don't need to brag about the games you play, but you sure like bragging about those good ol' principles of your.
... adults who actually care about business practices and consumer interests.
Yeah, you see. An adult with any understanding in economics (and capitalism) wouldn't be desperately screaming at the clouds angry that a newcomer to any market is making moves to get a lead on the competition. So, again. This act isn't flying.
The only reason why crappy business practices like exclusives, micro-transactions and p2w are so profitable is because of fools like you who are easily parted from their money for their shiny new toys.
You're in a videogame forum, just like me, posting in a topic about this very subject. .
In a videogame forum.
The only reason why crappy business practices like exclusives, micro-transactions and p2w are so profitable is because of fools like you who are easily parted from their money for their shiny new toys. Nobody is screaming at clouds here, merely presenting reasoned arguments as to why they prefer not to support the way how Epic is competing. Simply because, in the long run, this is not in the interest of gamers and consumers alike..
Man, it's my hobby. I do it for entertainment. I don't care who gets my money. If I really want it, I go out there and get it. They only have to worry about getting my attention, making the best game. I'll judge and I'll buy if I'm interested. Stop having such a huge chip on your shoulder. You're not saving the world here, you're just whining because you're not getting your games on your favorite stores.
And if you really wanted the game, you'd go get it.
Guys, your patience is truly commendable. I gave up a while back, you can't educate pork.
Man, it's my hobby. I do it for entertainment. I don't care who gets my money. If I really want it, I go out there and get it.
And if you really wanted the game, you'd go get it.
TBH. it wouldn't be half as bad if they came out of the gate with a decent client from a user perspective, but as is they came out of the gate with one that would look dated in even 2005. The abject lack of features is woeful in the extreme.
We get it, you just want to play games and don't really care about all this silly consumer nonsense. Which only begs the question as to why you are participating in this discussion in the first place?
Has it ever occurred to you, that even in the context of your shared hobby, there are more important things than just running after the games you want? If given the choice between violating my consumer interests or playing a shiny new game, I prefer the former.
We get it, you just want to play games and don't really care about all this silly consumer nonsense. Which only begs the question as to why you are participating in this discussion in the first place?
My point is simple. You guys are overreacting. BIG TIME..
My point is simple. You guys are overreacting. BIG TIME.
Yeah, there are. And they don't involve videogames.
Also, how are we even overreacting, by simply refusing to buy games from the Epic store? That's just silly.
Me and by the looks of it, other people, like their hobby, which not only includes playing games, but also enjoying their options and freedoms of choice as a consumer. After all, this is a consumer and product orientated hobby, so it's really no wonder that these aspects are considered to be important.
It's overreacting because you can't just not like it. You need to say it's shit.