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Possible PS5 leak info

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Dabaus

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I dont understand the Binary choice of "March or Holiday 2020." Why cant it be April, May or June? What is it about those months that makes a console launch unthinkable but March is ok? We've heard since like 2017 that sony was planning 2019 for ps5 on this very forum. (Matt was the poster, look it up) How does a company go from late 2019, to march 2020, then to holiday 2020, like how can they be that indecisive is my question?
 

rəddəM

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when was that posted? pre premium announcement?

that list of games doesnt make sense based off their job description. i mean if they are helping a AAA studio why would they know all of that top secret information?

I GUARANTEE people working IN aaa 1st party studios on actual ps5 games dont even know all of that info and this person is some rando small dev studio assisting a big aaa studio, which is unclear that its even 1st/2nd/or 3rd party.
You don't understand how the logistics work if you believe there aren't devs with PS5devkit making and enhancing games for PS5 right at this very moment.
 
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Geki-D

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Probably just listed under the wrong section I guess...
Humm... I smell fakeness, honestly. It always starts with a little mistake. Also that pastebin is vague as fuck which is another sign of obvious fakery. There are a few bold statements like GT7 as a launch title and the price but the rest is "not yet finalized", based off the recent patents we've seen coming from Sony and really aren't much of a stretch to assume (yeah, obviously we'll be getting TLOU 2 & Ghost of Tsushima remasters, Death Stranding too and that one isn't listed but I can tell you it'll happen 100% without being an insider).

There are way too many more elaborate fakes going around to believe some random pastebin.
 
It's like people aren't even trying with these "leaks" . Regurgitating the same shit every few weeks.

Stop giving it any attention.

The big publishers don't have dev kits. If they did we would hear something concrete from insiders by now.

For whatever reason it seems neither MS or Sony are prepared to hand out devkits, possibly due to delays at AMD, or perhaps because they always planned for end of 2020 so it's too early anyways.

I wouldn't get hopes up for either an early 2020 launch or the 14 TFs number that seems to be getting more popular in the rumor circles.
 

Armorian

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It's like people aren't even trying with these "leaks" . Regurgitating the same shit every few weeks.

Stop giving it any attention.

The big publishers don't have dev kits. If they did we would hear something concrete from insiders by now.

For whatever reason it seems neither MS or Sony are prepared to hand out devkits, possibly due to delays at AMD, or perhaps because they always planned for end of 2020 so it's too early anyways.

I wouldn't get hopes up for either an early 2020 launch or the 14 TFs number that seems to be getting more popular in the rumor circles.

Consoles will be released next year, publishers should have devkits by now.
 

Imtjnotu

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How can 220 degree FOV in PSVR2 be possible? Isn't that amount of FOV impossible?
That's what I was wondering. I mean we only have 120 but maybe the screen will be something along the lines of a 12mm viewing distant and it will track eyes to look left and right with out moving your whole head?? Who knows
 

rəddəM

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It's like people aren't even trying with these "leaks" . Regurgitating the same shit every few weeks.

Stop giving it any attention.

The big publishers don't have dev kits. If they did we would hear something concrete from insiders by now.

For whatever reason it seems neither MS or Sony are prepared to hand out devkits, possibly due to delays at AMD, or perhaps because they always planned for end of 2020 so it's too early anyways.

I wouldn't get hopes up for either an early 2020 launch or the 14 TFs number that seems to be getting more popular in the rumor circles.
Too early, really?
How long does it take to make a AAA game?YEARS.
You do not want to launch a console and have no devs not only prepared but already working on it.
Devs already know what kind of specs to expect and aim for even if they don't have devkits.
Sony's First Party specially ICE Team probably have not finalized/updated dev kits for quite a while now.
 

bitbydeath

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It's like people aren't even trying with these "leaks" . Regurgitating the same shit every few weeks.

Stop giving it any attention.

The big publishers don't have dev kits. If they did we would hear something concrete from insiders by now.

For whatever reason it seems neither MS or Sony are prepared to hand out devkits, possibly due to delays at AMD, or perhaps because they always planned for end of 2020 so it's too early anyways.

I wouldn't get hopes up for either an early 2020 launch or the 14 TFs number that seems to be getting more popular in the rumor circles.

We heard about them being released early last year.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/rumo...-7nm-chips-moving-to-mass-production.1461358/
 

Gamernyc78

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It's like people aren't even trying with these "leaks" . Regurgitating the same shit every few weeks.

Stop giving it any attention.

The big publishers don't have dev kits. If they did we would hear something concrete from insiders by now.

For whatever reason it seems neither MS or Sony are prepared to hand out devkits, possibly due to delays at AMD, or perhaps because they always planned for end of 2020 so it's too early anyways.

I wouldn't get hopes up for either an early 2020 launch or the 14 TFs number that seems to be getting more popular in the rumor circles.


LOL you really think the big devs don't have dev kits? 🤔 Bro use common sense. Even with PS4 we only got concrete leaks several months before release there weren't no real, true leaks awhile before.
 

JLMC469

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There’s going to be another rumor next week and those specs will change. And the week after that...
 
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TLZ

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In any case, not long to go for E3/Q2 small reveal, if leaks to be believed. That will prove them right or wrong.
 

Shin

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Technically speaking the new consoles will be in a interesting spot, dawn of 8K.
Sony TVs they'll want PlayStation to help boost sales/adaption. A 14tf machine should be capable of 8k/30, especially since both the consoles and TVs will have HDMI 2.1 this/next year.

I don't think that's a boat Sony wants to miss as it's good for their overall business, more so than MS. They might make huge loss until 7nm EUV and lower saves them or make it back, but those nodes won't provide a big enough jump for a mid gen refresh. More like more cost effective and slimmer models.

Losing €100 on hardware sold isn't good business either but they got PS4 sales figures to back up crazy plans and the 25 year anniversary to convince the higher ups.
Really curious if they will keep cheaping out (it works for them, but not for me) or go crazy like the old glorious days.
 

Ar¢tos

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8k? I have no intention to even move to 4k... Gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphics. I just want ps5 for better physics, maybe less virtual boundaries and PSVR2.
 

Darius87

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8k? I have no intention to even move to 4k... Gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphics. I just want ps5 for better physics, maybe less virtual boundaries and PSVR2.

your or anyone preferences isn't in sony interest what successful companies doing is future proofing they products and going forward with advancements in technologies, this is why i don't like comments like yours, there's no difference for you that if it would support 8k you could still play lesser resolution then 4k on your tv, it doesn't make any difference, price is likely set arount 400$-500$.
 

Airbus Jr

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your or anyone preferences isn't in sony interest what successful companies doing is future proofing they products and going forward with advancements in technologies, this is why i don't like comments like yours, there's no difference for you that if it would support 8k you could still play lesser resolution then 4k on your tv, it doesn't make any difference, price is likely set arount 400$-500$.

Lets be honest here 8K is totally out of reach right now

How many people actually own a 8K TV right now?

Or how many 8K features or movie content are available right now ? Exactly

Not to mention its totally out of league for something like PS5, i doubt the technology is there already

The best graphic card nowadays are still strugling to perform 8K lets not talk about these consoles

Maybe when PS6 arrived we can start talking about 8K gaming
 
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Geki-D

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Something out of those 'leaks' will turn out to be true. Most won't.

Let's wait and see.
Sure but then it's just guess work. I mean you can get quite a reputation going off just guess work (look at OsirisBlack) but anyone with even 1% of common sense can see it was nothing more than a lucky guess.
 
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Ar¢tos

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your or anyone preferences isn't in sony interest what successful companies doing is future proofing they products and going forward with advancements in technologies, this is why i don't like comments like yours, there's no difference for you that if it would support 8k you could still play lesser resolution then 4k on your tv, it doesn't make any difference, price is likely set arount 400$-500$.
I just think it is going too fast. A lot of people just upgraded to 4k tvs in the last 2 years and now they would feel "forced" to buy new 8k tvs to catch up. There is no 8k content anywhere! I'm sure diminishing returns will also start to kick in considering the size of the screens isn't increasing at the same rate as resolution (and space limitations in most houses prevent it from happening).
I understand the whole planing forward, but this is planning forward for more than 1 gen time.
 

demigod

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4k TVs are dirt cheap now. TV manufacturers have to push for new tech. Games can barely run 4k at 60fps, base ps5 is not going to be able to run 8k.
 

yurinka

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I dont understand the Binary choice of "March or Holiday 2020." Why cant it be April, May or June? What is it about those months that makes a console launch unthinkable but March is ok? We've heard since like 2017 that sony was planning 2019 for ps5 on this very forum. (Matt was the poster, look it up) How does a company go from late 2019, to march 2020, then to holiday 2020, like how can they be that indecisive is my question?
March is too early for the AMD they are waiting for, and many important AAA studios still don't have devkits. And well, most PS have been released on November, and if not December or March.
 

THE:MILKMAN

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March is too early for the AMD they are waiting for, and many important AAA studios still don't have devkits. And well, most PS have been released on November, and if not December or March.


Which ones? Also so long as those devs that will have launch window games have them that it really doesn't matter when devs get kits. ND didn't take delivery of their 120 PS4 dev kits until September 2013 because they were busy with a little game called TLoU on PS3.
 

ANIMAL1975

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8k? I have no intention to even move to 4k... Gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphics. I just want ps5 for better physics, maybe less virtual boundaries and PSVR2.
Lets be honest here 8K is totally out of reach right now

How many people actually own a 8K TV right now?

Or how many 8K features or movie content are available right now ? Exactly

Not to mention its totally out of league for something like PS5, i doubt the technology is there already

The best graphic card nowadays are still strugling to perform 8K lets not talk about these consoles

Maybe when PS6 arrived we can start talking about 8K gaming
4k TVs are dirt cheap now. TV manufacturers have to push for new tech. Games can barely run 4k at 60fps, base ps5 is not going to be able to run 8k.
I read somewhere this is about the PS5 having an 8k image upscaler, like Xbox one had an 1080p upscaler from the beginning, so nothing to do with forcing resolutions. If the 8k checkerboard thing is true, don't see nothing wrong with it either, is more about being future proof really.
 

Geki-D

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I read somewhere this is about the PS5 having an 8k image upscaler, like Xbox one had an 1080p upscaler from the beginning, so nothing to do with forcing resolutions. If the 8k checkerboard thing is true, don't see nothing wrong with it either, is more about being future proof really.
It would be cool if it had the 8k checkerboard upscaler at launch but it's more realistic to assume it'll be 4K at launch with any form of 8K being for an eventual PS5 Pro, right?
 

Gamernyc78

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Lol how ppl forget so quickly. The system won't probably do games in 8K resolution (if it does it'll be very few and only the games that aren't pushing high graphical fidelity) but it will have the ability to probably play/stream movies at 8K resolution or something like tht. Why are ppl Surprised of 8k talk. It was the same with ps3 and 1080p talk, the same with PS4 and 4K talk and will be the same with PS5 and 8K talk.
 
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rəddəM

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All the 8k PS5 needs is to future proof itself with HDMI 2.1 full bandwidth. It's always good to support it even if it will have zero mainstream content. Some small crowd will theirs 2 or 3 8k something will be very Happy with it.
 

kraspkibble

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All the 8k PS5 needs is to future proof itself with HDMI 2.1 full bandwidth. It's always good to support it even if it will have zero mainstream content. Some small crowd will theirs 2 or 3 8k something will be very Happy with it.
8K? :messenger_tears_of_joy:

for what? looking at photos? because that's all it'll manage to do at 8K. how about we focus on getting 4K as standard in all titles before thinking about 8K? :messenger_grinning_smiling:
 
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kraspkibble

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Lol how ppl forget so quickly. The system won't probably do games in 8K resolution (if it does it'll be very few and only the games that aren't pushing high graphical fidelity) but it will have the ability to probably play/stream movies at 8K resolution or something like tht. Why are ppl Surprised of 8k talk. It was the same with ps3 and 1080p talk, the same with PS4 and 4K talk and will be the same with PS5 and 8K talk.
if it's gonna do 8K it'll be for looking at photos or watching movies but c'mon this is sony....we don't even have a PS4 that can watch 4K blu ray movies in 2019 lol. also 8K isn't really a thing right now for movies. you can't stream netflix at 8K. you can't get 8K blu rays.

basic 8K support for 8K tvs + for viewing photos - yes
8K video support - unlikely but who knows
8K games - no.
 
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Shin

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8K support although limited would be very, very cool.
Fake 8K probably costs the same amount of memory and bandwidth as native 4K (haven't looked into it), so in theory it should be possible.
Sony showed off Gran Turismo in 8K and what's not also, they got movies, series and TV's that they'll try to sell so it makes sense to try and push it as a sales point.
Just an after thought thing that's done at a system level without interaction or updates from developers, I could see something along those lines as there's no harm in it.
That's how they won the format war with BluRay so it's not like they haven't pushed a medium/format before, don't know why people seem surprised that it might happen.
 
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ANIMAL1975

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It would be cool if it had the 8k checkerboard upscaler at launch but it's more realistic to assume it'll be 4K at launch with any form of 8K being for an eventual PS5 Pro, right?
I think you got me wrong, the upscaler I'm talking about is like the one TVs have, to stretch a smaller size/resolution image. Nothing to do with checkerboard that is done by the gpu if the game supports it. For one you need a dedicated image processor unit, like Sony’s 4k TVs X-Reality PRO or some kind of less effective software solution. For the later, well, all you need really is plain and simple raw power lol,... The beasty PS5 💪😅
 
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Fake 8K probably costs the same amount of memory and bandwidth as native 4K (haven't looked into it), so in theory it should be possible.
Even fake (checkerboard?) 8K will be a pipe dream, considering the fact that 8K is 4 * 4K:

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Checkerboard cuts shading requirements in half, so... they will need a pretty innovative solution (maybe variable rate shading?).

Sony showed off Gran Turismo in 8K and what's not also, they got movies, series and TV's that they'll try to sell so it makes sense to try and push it as a sales point.
8K at 120 fps. Not sure if even the PS6 could deliver that.

GT at 30 fps will be a joke.

That's how they won the format war with BluRay so it's not like they haven't pushed a medium/format before, don't know why people seem surprised that it might happen.
It was a pointless war though. Streaming superseded both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD.
 
many important AAA studios still don't have devkits

Have they said they don't? I imagine a lot of AAA devs are actually privy to the details of the PS5 and have been for years. Some will even have acted as consultants to Sony to tell them what they want / need in a next gen machine. Work on the PS5 would've started shortly before the PS4's launch.
 

rəddəM

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8K? :messenger_tears_of_joy:

for what? looking at photos? because that's all it'll manage to do at 8K. how about we focus on getting 4K as standard in all titles before thinking about 8K? :messenger_grinning_smiling:
That's why I said it only need to have HDMI 2.1 full bandwidth. It will support 8k and perhaps 6 years from now some (Netflix? YouTube? Blu-ray? Games?) 8k will be available.
 

Gamernyc78

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if it's gonna do 8K it'll be for looking at photos or watching movies but c'mon this is sony....we don't even have a PS4 that can watch 4K blu ray movies in 2019 lol. also 8K isn't really a thing right now for movies. you can't stream netflix at 8K. you can't get 8K blu rays.

basic 8K support for 8K tvs + for viewing photos - yes
8K video support - unlikely but who knows
8K games - no.

Sony always had advanced disc players, the only reason PS4 didn't have 4k player was a cost issue at the time and trying to learn lessons from the ps3 which at the time had a blu-ray player no one had and was even cheaper than most standalone bluray players so it was still a steal. Ps4 was a reaction of most ppl wanting an affordable console so let's not blame Sony. It also worked out great for them with PS4 still selling well. It's like ppl harping on about bc lol but Sony always had bc until PS4.

One thing I do feel is tht ppl will be pleasantly surprised with the ps5 and what it offers. I think thy are looking to have good, advanced features but also be affordable. My bet is 450-509 console. And again as I stated and agree 8k will only be for movie playback or whatever but not games.
 

DeepEnigma

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All the 8k PS5 needs is to future proof itself with HDMI 2.1 full bandwidth. It's always good to support it even if it will have zero mainstream content. Some small crowd will theirs 2 or 3 8k something will be very Happy with it.

Sony's new TVs are said to have VRR. The popular 900F's replacement 900G will have VRR built in, as well as automatic Game Mode, lower latency, fast switching, etc.. It is safe to say the PS5 will have it as well.

They are also coming out with an 8K set this year. Now the PS5 won't be an 8K machine, but everything will upscale.

 
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mckmas8808

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Lets be honest here 8K is totally out of reach right now

How many people actually own a 8K TV right now?

Or how many 8K features or movie content are available right now ? Exactly

Not to mention its totally out of league for something like PS5, i doubt the technology is there already

The best graphic card nowadays are still strugling to perform 8K lets not talk about these consoles

Maybe when PS6 arrived we can start talking about 8K gaming

Anybody and I mean ANYBODY that think 8k gaming is happening next-gen is stupid. Maybe for 2D limited movement games or something, but it will not be in 99% of games. For what? Native 4K gaming is clean enough. 8K will be nice for videos though, but not games.
 

HeisenbergFX4

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I looked at a 75" 8k 2300 nit display at Frys Electronics and up close yeah it was amazing.

Back up about 3 feet and I couldnt tell the difference between that 8k display and the 4k OLED sitting next to it.

Now the 2300 nit brightness wow, couldn't even look at really bright scenes but sure was vibrant.
 
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