kevin_trinh
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So Xbox is officially death? Why buy Xbox Next when Ps5 has the best ex and the power of Azure too?
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Sony and Microsoft to explore strategic partnership
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Pallas
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Airbus Jr
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Already no point for me
Gamepass is coming to Nintendo and PC
Out of brand loyalty i have no reason to purchases the next xbox
kevin_trinh
Member
Xbox fanboi in Gaf always shout Azure this Azure that, now they know Azure is just a cloud service, everyone can use it. What have Xbox left?How did you come up with that conclusion?
Elenchus
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Xbox fanboi in Gaf always shout Azure this Azure that, now they know Azure is just a cloud service, everyone can use it. What have Xbox left?
A very large bag of Sony’s PS revenue to fund Xbox??
kevin_trinh
Member
why should they fund the DeathBox? Shouldn't they keep it and invest more on Azure?A very large bag of Sony’s PS revenue to fund Xbox??
CyberPanda
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Because they realized azure is worth it? And decided to take the plunge. I don’t know why this is a shock to people. Sony and MS have done business before together. In the end they all want money, nothing more.
Airbus Jr
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I wonder what sony can benefit from this?
They get to use ms cloud and in return xbox games are coming to ps?
CyberPanda
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Sony will get better servers, and MS gets their money. I’m pretty sure sony’s IP’s will remain on PS only.
Kamina
Golden Boy
War, it never changes.
Elenchus
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Is that how MS acquired all those new studios with more to come? Streaming is the future and Sony simply was not prepared. They have no plans to address this weakness besides pay MS a large bag of PS cash for the foreseeable future. Between buyers and sellers son, the sellers are always the bosses.
Texas Pride
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Tired of hearing this bullshit... New studios don't guarantee great games. On top of that streaming only goes as far as your ISP which factually can't support it as a staple gaming medium right now worldwide without latency. This delusion that Sony didn't come up with PS NOW before gamepass needs to stop. Sony has been preparing for this future and produced a product before MS. Stop being a fanboy and look at the facts.
So unprepared they're the only major player in this "streaming future"? Interesting. At this point, Microsoft is at Sony's mercy if they want to keep their business. Better hope Microsoft delivers.
Elenchus
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Sony’s preparation was buying a failed Gaikai service. MS’s was to build world class cloud service supported by Fortune 500 enterprise clients and then to integrate that business with their online gaming services. Which do you think was the wiser course? Asking for a friend.
Elenchus
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Airbus Jr
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Sony’s a customer at a nightclub. Nothing more. They just met the owner.
As far as im concerned sony the leading tech in gaming consoles
So...keep dreaming boyo...
This is getting late anyway kid time for you to take a nap
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Texas Pride
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MS servers are a core business. Gaikai is such a failure it is PS NOW. Which came before Gamespass. Get real.
MiyazakiHatesKojima
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Sony > Microsoft
CyberPanda
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CyberPanda
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No, Sony is dining in at a restaurant and Microsoft is the server. Better hope they provide a good service... maybe Sony will come back, possibly leave a tip.Sony’s a customer at a nightclub. Nothing more. They just met the owner.
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DeepEnigma
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This is the new goal. A service based IP brand.
kevin_trinh
Member
Boss lul, there are so many cloud service out there, why do u think Sony choose MS if its not because MS offer them a decent price?
Pallas
Member
Xbox fanboi in Gaf always shout Azure this Azure that, now they know Azure is just a cloud service, everyone can use it. What have Xbox left?
Well duh, I fail to see how this means doom and gloom for the Xbox though. It’s business, ffs and a mutual obligation and understanding to better streaming. Why are you painting this in a negative light and making it sound like Microsoft was desperate? Sony has a need and lots of cash and Microsoft has the resources and product to satisfy that need. Enough console war fuckery please.
You’re right, they don’t guarantee great games, but to assume it’s going to be all garbage even with the acquisition of some decent studios is ridiculous. Don’t write it off just because it’s Xbox. Sony is preparing for the future right now by working with Microsoft.
You’re the best.
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Texas Pride
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Sony chose to go with MS services. That's being lost in conversation. MS having never won a gen should take notes from Sony. Sony hasn't ever "needed" MS so let's cut the shit.
BusierDonkey
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You don't always go with the lowest bidder. You weigh your options, and you pick the overall best value for your company. If product A is cheap but also shit, and product B is pricier but really good, you'll go with B unless you are planning on retiring soon.
Sony needs a service that can hold up to demand, and right now there are only a handful that could handle full game streaming on a massive scale. Microsoft, Google, and Amazon are the only ones with everything in place. Sony does offer game streaming currently but it's not being utilized on the same scale people are projecting and they need something that can. They either went with Azure because it's the 3rd best in the word but cheap, or because they thought it was the best option.
12Dannu123
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Maybe not in the Console era of things, but Sony realises that Sony is no longer the centre of attention and that there are much bigger competitors in the industry, competitors that have the resources, the money and the influence, they have Cloud infrastructure that actually works at scale, Sony can never beat that alone, so it makes absolute sense that Sony kills Gaikai, swallow their pride and partner with someone who can do it better in a Cloud-based era.
If Sony didn't partner with someone, Cloud gaming would have become mainstream without Sony and started eating into traditional console sales.
kevin_trinh
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Because according to Xbox fanboi, Azure is the holy ground that only MS can touch, which will change the next gen experience. Now what? Sony can step in and shit on that too with a little $
Texas Pride
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They're not killing Gaikai though. So you're wrong from the jump unless I missed it? My point still stands.
12Dannu123
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Actually, Microsoft is playing a very smart game. With the way things are going, Microsoft is likely going to license their XCloud servers to anyone who wants to develop a Game Streaming service.
However the most likely caveat will be that companies must develop on Xbox Console hardware to get XCloud compatibility, so if EA develops a Streaming Service on XCloud, it would require EA to have Xbox Live Support etc.
Jigsaah
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Pass the salt please?
Jigsaah
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If Gaikai was a factor, they wouldn't want Azure. Face it, they just don't have the infrastructure alone to do what they need to do to compete. I've said this many times before. Either Sony opens their eyes or they get left in the dust. I'm glad they decided to open their eyes because this came about wayyy too fast for them to react.
No longer the center of attention? Bigger competitors? Money? Influence? This is lolworthy. Sony isn't killing anything and Gaikai doesn't even exist anymore. It's been rolled into SIE/SEN.
Sony can do whatever they want without Microsoft... kind of like... they're doing now. Microsoft Azure is just another option for Sony while Sony is a major win for Microsoft. However, this announcement means absolutely nothing seeing that this is only at the exploration stage.
Silly nonsense.
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Jigsaah
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Ya'll need to get ya story straight.
The sheer amount of damage control in this thread is astonishing
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kevin_trinh
Member
Lmao, you got that tale from ur ass? Xcloud or Azure or watever it name is just a cloud service. Nobody give a fk about how MS license it, but what the customer do with the service they rented is depend on the customer. Why it need to be on Xbox hardware if the costumer does not have any plan to release anything on that?
Damage control? what damage?
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Texas Pride
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Damage control? You're way too invested if you even care that much and you're claiming damage control? It's a strategic partnership for servers that's the most that comes of this. MS pays royalties to Sony for using bluray. Sony is buying servers from them. You acting like MS won something when it's just business as usual on it's face. At the end of the day they're just plastic boxes. It doesn't matter how much you love it bcs it's never going to love you back.
Jigsaah
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Hmmm, i actually kinda agree with you there. I mean if Sony is going to develop their streaming service on Azure, I highly doubt they'd agree on this if the caveat was they have to have Xbox Live support. That just seems like a step too far and I'd imagine negotiations would have fallen apart at that point.
I mean Sony's basically just paying Microsoft for the infrastructure they don't have.
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Jigsaah
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Invested? Let me ask you this. Do you own an Xbox?
Texas Pride
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Not anymore but I did. Does that count towards your fanboy cred? I want you to explain to me how owning a box means fuck all.... Make YOUR point. Hey ya want my XBL and gamerscore too?
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bitbydeath
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You know Sony also uses Amazon servers too right and they’re even bigger than Azure.
Damage control? Not sure what you're getting at here.
There is no story. Gaikai was acquired by Sony and the name/brand/services dismantled and rolled into a new venture called PlayStation Now. PlayStation Now is a completely different beast than Gaikai.
Jigsaah
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I'm the furthest thing from a fanboy you can get. That's my point. If you weren't a fanboy you would welcome this. All your points seem to be either damage controlling the implications of this deal or downplaying it in some way. This is huge, whether you like it or not. Deal with it.
Texas Pride
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That's YOUR opinion. You're welcome to it. Don't begrudge others for a different take. I don't think it's a huge deal it's not downplaying shit it's my opinion. Don't like it? I don't care.
Hard to believe someone can think this is a "huge" deal despite it only being in an exploration stage and the possibility of nothing coming out of this. Somehow this is damage controlling and also means Sony doesn't have a competent streaming service in production in 19 countries which also equates to them being unprepared... somehow. Yeah, he's definitely not a fanboy.
Texas Pride
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But somehow he's got it twisted that I'm the fanboy. Some people need to seriously self reflect what they project on others. They're closer to this than they realize.
Jigsaah
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Then why do the deal to begin with? Simple question.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Are you pretending to be obtuse for the sake of, or?
Azure is just a cloud service solution for a myriad of applications. Just like AWS, OpenStack, Google, etc..
Gaikai is tech behind Sony’s game streaming and SharePlay/RemotePlay, just like Google and MS designing their own tech with Stadia/xCloud.
Azure =/= xCloud. Azure is the cloud hosting for the tech.
You saying they don’t need Gaikai since they are expanding their data center coverage, is like saying they don't need Gaikai for OpenStack or AWS they have been using for their cloud hosting data center solutions.
This partnership says they’re going to share their streaming technologies, probably since other players are moving in on the scene. It’s more than just a “hosting” partnership.
They are probably going to incorporate each other’s tech within their own services, or a more hilarious curveball would be to combine into one giant streaming service.
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