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[Lort]

Actually, Sony has quite a bit of "cloud services" beyond game streaming, mostly film type products/services. It depends on your definition of "cloud service", I think the words have lttle to no meaning - I technically run cloud services from my house. The whole purchase of Gaika is cloud services. Not that I think cloud gaming will ever be a mass product or service.

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By cloud services i mean the only cloud services any enterprise ever considers using... is AWS or Azure ... maybe Google... i might aso point out that Somy juts signed a cloud services agreement with Microsoft which kinda demonstrates my point.

 

[Panajev2001a]

By cloud services i mean the only cloud services any enterprise ever considers using... is AWS or Azure ... maybe Google... i might aso point out that Somy juts signed a cloud services agreement with Microsoft which kinda demonstrates my point.

Netflix, which kind of has perhaps the most popular and strong video streaming technology, never built their own backend... PSNow and the experience they built from the Online and Gaikai days being undervalued because Sony does not build a full cloud infrastructure is a bit odd IMHO.

 

[DanielsM]

Where's that press release?

You can google it, but here is just a few.

Customer Success Stories: Case Studies, Videos, Podcasts, Innovator stories

Learn how organizations of all sizes use AWS to increase agility, lower costs, and accelerate innovation in the cloud.

aws.amazon.com

AWS Case Study: Naughty Dog

Naughty Dog is the developer of the Uncharted game franchise, in addition to other notable titles for the Sony PlayStation family of consoles. The company hosts online game components, including multiplayer functionality, with Amazon S3, Amazon EC2, and Amazon CloudFront. This service stack...

aws.amazon.com

Digital Media Partner Solutions - Amazon Web Services (AWS)

Leverage the AWS Partner Network to customize you AWS cloud infrastructure. Learn how here.

aws.amazon.com

Most big companies use more than one service, sometimes they use their own services. The word "cloud services" was invented for marketing about 10 years ago. Its over used, imo.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Where's that press release?

What press release? They have been using AWS and NASA/Rackspace’s OpenStack for a while now. They are expanding their reach with Azure as well.

Sony division moves some services from AWS to OpenStack

The division of Sony that suffered a cyberattack last year, which led to a major PlayStation network outage and sensitive customer data being compromised, has dropped Amazon Web Services for at least a portion of its cloud hosting and computing in favor of an OpenStack platform hosted by Rackspace.

www.networkworld.com

 

[WouldYouKindly]

Its time brothers The great war has started.

 

[JustP_Gaming]

Netflix, which kind of has perhaps the most popular and strong video streaming technology, never built their own backend... PSNow and the experience they built from the Online and Gaikai days being undervalued because Sony does not build a full cloud infrastructure is a bit odd IMHO.

Sony cannot build their own cloud infrastructure. It is way to costly for even Sony to do not to mention the real estate needed.

 

[Lort]

Actually, Sony has quite a bit of "cloud services" beyond game streaming, mostly film type products/services. It depends on your definition of "cloud service", I think the words have lttle to no meaning - I technically run cloud services from my house. The whole purchase of Gaika is cloud services. Not that I think cloud gaming will ever be a mass product or service.

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Netflix, which kind of has perhaps the most popular and strong video streaming technology, never built their own backend... PSNow and the experience they built from the Online and Gaikai days being undervalued because Sony does not build a full cloud infrastructure is a bit odd IMHO.

Your right i should have said cloud service provider.

 

[DanielsM]

Sony cannot build their own cloud infrastructure. It is way to costly for even Sony to do not to mention the real estate needed.

Yet they have their own cloud infrastructure, I have my own cloud infrastructure. I have the following services running at my house which I can use and manage anywhere in the world - web services, database services, file services, video streaming services, music streaming services, etc.

Some companies might elect to build their own or create their own, or ride on top of someone else.... .or pieces parts or combination. Microsoft uses Apple and Google cloud services.

 

[JustP_Gaming]

What press release? They have been using AWS and NASA/Rackspace’s OpenStack for a while now. They are expanding their reach with Azure as well.

Sony division moves some services from AWS to OpenStack

The division of Sony that suffered a cyberattack last year, which led to a major PlayStation network outage and sensitive customer data being compromised, has dropped Amazon Web Services for at least a portion of its cloud hosting and computing in favor of an OpenStack platform hosted by Rackspace.

www.networkworld.com

So there you go assuming that the tech they are using is the same tech needed for low latency game streaming. Sony went with MS specifically for gaming for a reason.

 

[Antoon]

Even with the 2 of them combined, they cant touch Nintendo's dominance.

 

[JustP_Gaming]

Yet they have their own cloud infrastructure, I have my own cloud infrastructure.

Ok so then why partner with AWS or MS ?

 

[Gamernyc78]

How do you figure?

Tales out of his ass because we all know Sony been doing just fine with the infrastructure they use now. These console warriors and arm chair analyst are the fucking worst lol

 

[FranXico]

So there you go assuming that the tech they are using is the same tech needed for low latency game streaming. Sony went with MS specifically for gaming for a reason.

They use every provider they find advantageous to complement their own infrastructure. They have been using their own datacenters, AWS and OpenStack among others for gaming, for quite some time. Microsoft Azure is now yet another one they use as well.

 

[DeepEnigma]

So there you go assuming that the tech they are using is the same tech needed for low latency game streaming. Sony went with MS specifically for gaming for a reason.

You use a multitude of them so your reach is as saturated as you can get. There are places that some of these datacenters are, that others are not, etc..

And you build tech partnerships exchange as well.

What is with the “either or black and white” commentary?

 

[DanielsM]

Ok so then why partner with AWS or MS ?

Well, just the same reason MS might use and partner with Amazon with AWS.

Easy the load. Microsoft wants to sell Sony some services, Sony might not want to build all the services and outsource it or us existing ones... Microsoft may want the same thing from Sony, they have services that Microsoft can use without building it themselves.

Microsoft and Amazon struck a brilliant partnership to take on Google in the next big thing for cloud computing

The battle lines in cloud computing are drawn, and Amazon and Microsoft are joining forces to blunt Google's AI strength.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Shakka43]

But will Microsoft stab Sony in the back, and therefore push Sony towards becoming a Cloud juggernaut on its own?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Tales out of his ass because we all know Sony been doing just fine with the infrastructure they use now. These console warriors and arm chair analyst are the fucking worst lol

I picked up on that with the goofy “cha ching” gloating the next post, lol.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Is this not a case of "the enemy of my enemy, must be my friend?"

Microsoft and Sony own the largest portion of the gaming market. While they squabble back and forth with market share, they allow a competitor to come in and swallow both companies whole. Amazon, Google, Facebook and Apple could enter the console market day 1 and have 10 million zealots waiting to buy whichever shite their favourite company tells them to buy.

This is just a smart way of protecting their market. Between them, they could still battle over who owns the largest share of the market, while keeping outsiders at bay.

 

[Vawn]

As i always said Microsofts real competitors are Apple , Google and Amazon.

Most game devices are phones, Sony dosent make servers or offer cloud services or enterprise solitions.

Sony is just too small and too narrowly focused to be a reL competitor to Microsoft.

I don't know. I think someday Sony will have a PlayStation console that will outsell the Xbox console of the same generation. I know its difficult to imagine since it's only happened 3 out of 3 times.

 

[Bogroll]

Some people are being a bit defensive over this, chill out it's good for both.

 

[JustP_Gaming]

They use every provider they find advantageous to complement their own infrastructure. They have been using their own datacenters, AWS and OpenStack among others for gaming, for quite some time. Microsoft Azure is now yet another one they use as well.

Not for games streaming though. That's the difference. You will see come E3.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Here we go again.

 

[lock2k]

Microsoft-Sony.com

 

[DanielsM]

Is this not a case of "the enemy of my enemy, must be my friend?"

Microsoft and Sony own the largest portion of the gaming market. While they squabble back and forth with market share, they allow a competitor to come in and swallow both companies whole. Amazon, Google, Facebook and Apple could enter the console market day 1 and have 10 million zealots waiting to buy whichever shite their favourite company tells them to buy.

This is just a smart way of protecting their market. Between them, they could still battle over who owns the largest share of the market, while keeping outsiders at bay.

Or one of them wants to exit the device market (eventually) and sell services to an existing companies i.e. Nintendo, Sony, etc. So, in the future... you can run your Virtual Windows Desktop on your iOS, Android, Playstation, Switch, etc.... in which you can play your old Xbox games in addition to your Windows games/applications. Furthermore deploy applications/games like they are doing today for iOS, Android, etc.

Azure Virtual Desktop | Microsoft Azure

Azure Virtual Desktop combines the scale, security, and cost benefits of Azure and Microsoft 365 for a secure remote desktop from virtually anywhere.

azure.microsoft.com

Eventually all those Microsoft products will be services running from Azure, all the services are just not complete yet.... than it takes years to transition the users over.

Nadella gives two shits about Xbox as a Hardware, the console wars were over the day he took over. Microsoft generally has the right idea, there really is no reason for all this hardware, the world doesn't need more device it needs less.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Microsoft-Sony.com

I remember that, lol.

 

[Gamernyc78]

I don't know. I think someday Sony will have a PlayStation console that will outsell the Xbox console of the same generation. I know its difficult to imagine since it's only happened 3 out of 3 times.

Lol facts and a streaming system tht you know already works on an infrastructure. Fucking console warriors and their delusions are embarrassing and annoying.

 

[Lort]

I don't know. I think someday Sony will have a PlayStation console that will outsell the Xbox console of the same generation. I know its difficult to imagine since it's only happened 3 out of 3 times.

Im sorry i think you forgot to add the windows computers into that equation.

 

[Virex]

There is no comparisons with Sonys streaming service and Google and Microsoft and possibly Amazon will provide. It's like knife to machine gun fight.

So where are their services then? Do you have some comparisons?

 

[Klayzer]

Is Microsoft laying down the foundation to exit the hardware business after the next Xbox console? The moves and partnerships they're making sure seems that way. I'd prefer MS have a hand in both hardware and service based products.

 

[FranXico]

Not for games streaming though. That's the difference. You will see come E3.

There is no difference. They all get used for anything needed.

 

[Stuart360]

As much as console warriors will hate it, i'd love Mocrosoft and Sony to team up to take on Google and Apple and any other new pretenders. Especially long term as we may hate it, but long term streaming is the future unfortunately.

 

[Hendrick's]

Is Microsoft laying down the foundation to exit the hardware business after the next Xbox console? The moves and partnerships they're making sure seems that way. I'd prefer MS have a hand in both hardware and service based products.

They're still making the Surface, so I see no reason why they wouldn't make Xbox consoles until things go 100% streaming.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Sony cannot build their own cloud infrastructure. It is way to costly for even Sony to do not to mention the real estate needed.

Nice way to address the fact that they do not need to ... Sony never needed to do it... look at Netflix and their service... they did not need to build their own infrastructure backend to deliver perhaps the best and most recognised video streaming platform.

 

[DanielsM]

Is Microsoft laying down the foundation to exit the hardware business after the next Xbox console? The moves and partnerships they're making sure seems that way. I'd prefer MS have a hand in both hardware and service based products.

Yes, but the process is/will be slow as they want to transition the existing Windows users plus the existing Xbox users to cloud services. The cloud services are not even complete yet and might not be for some time, although they rolled out their own Virtual Desktop service. Than it takes years to get those users to move over to the cloud services. I would expect them to release new Xbox hardware for the time being, as they have no choice... the services are not complete. Once the services are complete, they could in theory shutdown native Windows deployment and Xbox deployment.

They could not salvage their Phone or Band users because nobody needs a virtual phone or virtual watch.

The real issue is where is everyone going to be playing their win32 Steam game in 10 years? Microsoft wants to fix the glitch.

 

[nowhat]

look at Netflix and their service... they did not need to build their own infrastructure backend to deliver perhaps the best and most recognised video streaming platform.

I think this is a very valid point to make. They don't host their own content. But they absolutely dominate streaming video.

 

[Stuart360]

ALL of Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo will be leaving the hardware space eventually, its just a fact, no matter how much we would love it to not happen. So imaging a streaming service with Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo working together. Google and the rest wouldnt have a chance imo.
Dont worry though, this will be a full generation away, if not 2 or 3.

 

[JustP_Gaming]

There is no difference. They all get used for anything needed.

We shall see.

 

[Klayzer]

ALL of Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo will be leaving the hardware space eventually, its just a fact, no matter how much we would love it to not happen. So imaging a streaming service with Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo working together. Google and the rest wouldnt have a chance imo.
Dont worry though, this will be a full generation away, if not 2 or 3.

Yeah, give me Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo alliance over Google/Apple entering the market with their type of business practices.

 

[Klayzer]

We shall see.

We get it bro, Microsoft has the most servers for streaming services.

 

[Panajev2001a]

I think this is a very valid point to make. They don't host their own content. But they absolutely dominate streaming video.

Won’t take credit for it though. I fully agree, but the original point was argued by a good and smarter friend of mine.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Console wars are over guys.

Then, why would I even bother buying games and gaming equipment?

 

[Klayzer]

Then, why would I even bother buying games and gaming equipment?

To play games with said equipment I guess. I don't know if that was sarcasm or not. Lol

 

[TGO]

I don't think this means anything when it comes to PS5 and NeXbox.

 

[Stuart360]

I don't think this means anything when it comes to PS5 and NeXbox.

Of course not, in fact it wont mean anything, console wise, for another 2 or 3 generations imo, BUT streaming is the future, and eventually there wont be consoles, so Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo teaming up on a premium streaming service would be amazing for gamers long term imo.
They may provide a streaming service together before then, but streaming for the next 2 or 3 gens will just be another option, alongside consoles. Long term though, there wont be consoles, there will only be streaming, and thats why this is amazing news if it ends up producing rsults.
The only platform that could potentially survive streaming is PC, but thats for another discussion.

 

[Last Prime]

 

[Evilms]

 

[DanielsM]

I don't think this means anything when it comes to PS5 and NeXbox.

Yes and no, imo.

I would still suspect there will be a Xbox Two, after that... things become hazy once the cloud services are completed. Not really any different than Windows Mobile 10, the decision was made before it was released that it was over... Microsoft was in the process of writing down the Lumia acquisition and released WM10 even though Nadella had no intention of keeping it. Eventually all Windows (technically already deployed, in part, Microsoft Virtual Desktop services) and Xbox processing will be cloud services, they are just not completed with development of the services yet.

 

[Bogroll]

I don't think this means anything when it comes to PS5 and NeXbox.

It might not but nothing wrong in building a stronger relationship which in turn might help out when it comes to discussing cross play.

 

[Klayzer]

All these partnership and peace-treaty gifs are hilarious. Especially the one with Japan surrendering to to the US with General Sutherland looking on.

 

[Ten_Fold]

Just as one war ends......A new war begins...