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[Ten_Fold]

I’ll pass, I guess maybe Nintendo might release the stronger switch either later this year or probably next year. Anyways this is pretty good for kids or for people who want a pretty cheap version of the switch $ 199 is what I expected, I can see this selling well with a Pokémon bundle for $250

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Mario themed, yes

I have so many questions.

Spoiler

This is now your "post your switch and your hand " thread.

 

[TLZ]

Unfair on who, exactly?

The number of units sold is the same regardless of whether or not people call it "home" or "portable".
As if people stop playing it as soon as they step inside their house.

The only people I can see this being "unfair" to is Microsoft because Xbox can somehow be compared to Switch under the "home console" banner and Switch might end up outselling X Box One.

Nintendo and Microsoft are never going to outsell Sony this generation and I would not expect that to change in the next gen either. Shit they might not even outsell Sony combined.

So what difference does it make if the regular Switch is counted as home console sales but the Switch Lite is counted as portable?

Unfair sales wise when comparing a portable to a home console. It's a different category.

 

[Mista]

The Pokemon Sword and Shield themed one looks alright

 

[Fake]

The WSJ say have 2 SDK on the way, but Nintendo just confirmed one. Maybe for those who want to replace is a better ideia wait if the PRO is real or not.

 

[scalman]

wonder those buttons looks suspiciously hard plasticky which is not ideal

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

My only concern is that IR and HD Rumble will be de-emphasized/forgotten when this thing inevitably sells like bananas.

 

[Mista]

I have so many questions.

Looks like we have the same problem. Hit me up bruv, feel free to ask.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Looks way more comfortable to hold than the standard Switch, and it looks very nice. Tough done for recognition's sake, the name Switch is a bit useless at this point, as there's nothing to "switch to" with this device...

Also, less heat vents? Even though the processor may be more efficient, the standard one can get pretty hot after playing the more demanding games. With some reports of players having broken or melted heat vents, or cracks around that area, I'm dubious.

I think everyone shoud wait for detailed testing and teardowns on Youtube shortly after launch. The first model was notorious for poor build qiality and overal QA so it'll be interesting to see if Lite version is better in this regard or not. Also, specs, we need to know them too cuz it they aren't the same and Lite is less powerfull, then there wont be any reason to buy and play demanding games on it cuz even base model has problems running them and maintaining 30FPS, not to mention problems with variable resolution.

 

[Huevos de Oro]

The WSJ say have 2 SDK on the way, but Nintendo just confirmed one. Maybe for those who want to replace is a better ideia wait if the PRO is real or not.

Oh fuck. There's another one coming?

 

[Deputy Moonman]

My moment of euphoria at the switch lite announcement and being priced at $200 quickly came crashing down upon learning it has no tv support. Way to go Nintendo...

 

[Alexios]

Hope the d-pad is good.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Looks like we have the same problem. Hit me up bruv, feel free to ask.

Why Mario themed? I...is there a Metroid themed couch?

 

[Allforce]

You're getting hung up on the name. Think for a second, about the business, not the consumer dream world - why would anyone ever buy the original again when they could get a Switch Lite, with better hardware, TV connection, and an official Pro Controller for $30 less than the original model? Nintendo aren't that stupid. They're not about to utterly invalidate their base model system. This model is for the people who just wanted a new handheld and don't care about the switching.

This is a great take, and by this logic (hopefully) the Switch "Pro" or whatever their other one will be is going to be a straight up box to hook up to your TV and play with a Pro controller. No screen, no portability.

 

[Vawn]

No TV out option at all? No HD Rumble?

Its difficult to tell, but the thing doesn't even look that much smaller. I can't see any reason, outside that d-pad, to get this over the normal Switch.

 

[Mista]

Why Mario themed? I...is there a Metroid themed couch?

Went well with my room colours. It isn't really a mario themed just looked like it ;p

 

[AV]

You're losing features and gaining what?

$100. No use saying "well yeah other than the price..". That's the entire point of it, it's a cheaper model for people who don't care about playing on a TV.

Of course in business world it makes sense. The Switch itself is a portable and they put a tv out because they wanted to leave behind the home console business. It wasn't making them enough money as their handhelds. So of course they were going to double down on this portable business even more. I knew it was coming and so did a lot of people. But I was still hoping they'd keep that one tv out feature in.

As for why would people get the Switch instead of the Lite, well because it has a bigger screen, separate joycons, rumble etc. They can release an XL version with a slightly bigger screen around 7" and phase this one out. People buying the Lite with tv out would want it for the smaller 5.5" screen and more portable factor, but still would like to connect to TV if they feel like.

If you ask me though, from my point of view, the Lite made the Switch redundant. If you release a portable only for people who don't care about TV, then release a home console only for people who don't care about portable and always keep their Switch docked, as the current Switch feels like it's a jack of all trades, and does justice to neither home console nor portable. But that's my point of view. And business is business, as usual.

I mean, your first paragraph kinda describes why what you were hoping for was futile.

Separate joycons mean squat when you can get a better controller for less than the cost of the upgrade. The screen is a fraction bigger. Rumble..? Sorry, I don't buy any of these.

The lite cannot possibly make the Switch redundant because it can't Switch. That's the whole point. Adding a TV connection would make it redundant, you've got it backwards man. I can easily see them also releasing a cheaper home only version too as you say, and have the standard Switch be the one that does it all.

 

[Alexios]

This is a great take, and by this logic (hopefully) the Switch "Pro" or whatever their other one will be is going to be a straight up box to hook up to your TV and play with a Pro controller. No screen, no portability.

To be "pro" or whatever universal upgrade it shouldn't cut down any features though, portability included. I'd expect a Pro to offer everything the current does, plus better specs. Maybe a Switch TV like Vita TV would offer an equally cheap to the Lite but TV-only experience.

And then there could be Lite Pro, TV Pro, Switch Pro variants with a bumped up price.

Lol @ all the "are they stupid" "this is useless" "nobody wants this" type of posts. This will sell gangbusters just like 2DS sold tons. Granted the Switch's defining feature was more successful than the 3DS 3D (then again we call it successful because Switch sells tons but for all we know its success relies on the portability more than anything else, we'll see how many people still go for the original model when the Lite launches I guess, if one eclipses the other or if both sell well enough) but portables for a cheaper price than that can also still be pretty big. They're clearly and aggressively going after the people for whom the price sweet spot is way lower than a full Switch can cost (eventually at 249 at least after a price cut and maybe alongside a New model with bumped up specs for around the price of the original or slightly higher I'd imagine).

 

[radewagon]

Are they stupid? I wanted one but removing the TV capability is a no go. I am sure it still has the USB-C connector so maybe modders can reanable it but sorry. This is just stupid . . . in my opinion. I know they are after the kids but don't remove the best feature!

The Switch no longer "switches".

Also, what's all that about looking on the box to see if a game supports handheld mode? Do some games not support handheld mode?

I think it's an extremely dumb decision to make it nor TV play compatible through a connection cable or something.

how hard would that have been to accomplish?

I've been thinking about a Switch for a year or so, but I don't want one that can't output to TV.

Madness this can't be docked. It's exactly the system I wanted to buy my Daughter, but not being able to dock it... Frustrating.

I think it looks cool, but not having it able to connect to the TV sucks. I don't see why it wouldn't be able to either... Just sell a cable or dock seperately to keep the initial cost down.

A shame, I was looking forward to this but I guess I won't be picking it up.

How can they still call it the switch when it doesn’t even “switch”?

"It won't connect to the TV"
Thanks you just saved me a ton of money nintendo.

This is up there with the discless Xbox One S.
You're losing features and gaining what? It doesn't even look that much smaller than the standard Switch.
What's the draw here apart from the price?

It isn't even capable of switching between being a handheld and a home console, yet it's called a "Switch Lite". The name suggests it can still at the very least "switch" modes.
Instead of trying to awkwardly cover both bases with the Switch, I think Nintendo would have been better off building a new handheld from the ground up.

Well, yeah, I'm just as dissatisfied as you guys. This is the obvious problem with the Lite and Nintendo knew this would be an issue. Look at all these posts in the short time since the news dropped. Meh, I guess Nintendo's gonna Nintendo. Hopefully no one actually fanboys it up and defends (understanding is fine though) the decision to remove the title feature of the Nintendo "Switch" Lite.

 

[jufonuk]

This is up there with the discless Xbox One S.
You're losing features and gaining what? It doesn't even look that much smaller than the standard Switch.
What's the draw here apart from the price?

It isn't even capable of switching between being a handheld and a home console, yet it's called a "Switch Lite". The name suggests it can still at the very least "switch" modes.
Instead of trying to awkwardly cover both bases with the Switch, I think Nintendo would have been better off building a new handheld from the ground up.

It already has name recognition. Plus it isn’t a competing product with the switch. It is within the same family. Nintendo gonna Nintendo.

 

[RScrewed]

Absolutely no reason to remove HDMI out, bet it was removed because they can't ensure 3rd party USB3 to HDMI dongles or they wanted to make the more expensive Switch more attractive.

 

[Saruhashi]

Unfair sales wise when comparing a portable to a home console. It's a different category.

So unfair to Microsoft then?

 

[Fake]

Oh fuck. There's another one coming?

I guess, rumors before this announcement told about 2 sdks, one saying is a 'NS mini' and other a PRO version. Well, he was right about one of them.

 

[PhilipDoesMatter]

I wonder how control replacement will work. Surely the drifting problem was not adressed.

 

[Mista]

HDMI removed is understandable though. Its advertised as handheld only and there isn't any handheld that has an HDMI

 

[BlackTron]

Um it's a Switch that doesn't switch?

This is a branding/marketing travesty.

 

[Allforce]

To be "pro" or whatever universal upgrade it shouldn't cut down any features though, portability included. I'd expect a Pro to offer everything the current does, plus better specs. Maybe a Switch TV like Vita TV would offer an equally cheap to the Lite but TV-only experience. And then there could be Lite Pro, TV Pro, Switch Pro variants.

But what if it's 199 and includes a Pro controller? No portability, same games. "Pro" doesn't have to mean upgraded, it can literally just mean some ambiguous "for the real gamers" garbage like they advertise the Pro controller as.

Ideally as AV put it, business-wise you want a choice. One for portable, one for home use, and one for both.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Absolutely no reason to remove HDMI out, bet it was removed because they can't ensure 3rd party USB3 to HDMI dongles or they wanted to make the more expensive Switch more attractive.

A Switch Lite + HDMI out dongle + a pair of joycons would cost as much as the base system anyway.

HDMI removed is understandable though. Its advertised as handheld only and there isn't any handheld that has an HDMI

PSP 2000 and 3000 series had a TV out.

 

[zenspider]

This is going to be a huge hit in Japan.

Anyone know if there is going to be support for pro controllers?

Yup.

 

[Fake]

Um it's a Switch that doesn't switch?

2DS = A 3DS without 3D. Thats Nintendo.

 

[Huevos de Oro]

I guess, rumors before this announcement told about 2 sdks, one saying is a 'NS mini' and other a PRO version. Well, he was right about one of them.

Damn. Gotta wait I guess. Don't want to buy one now only to have Nintendo announce "hey guys, look! the Switch Pro! faster and better! comes in 3 months!"

I've had it this generation with console makers and 1.5 versions of their hardware. Pieces of shit.

 

[TLZ]

$100. No use saying "well yeah other than the price..". That's the entire point of it, it's a cheaper model for people who don't care about playing on a TV.



I mean, your first paragraph kinda describes why what you were hoping for was futile.

Separate joycons mean squat when you can get a better controller for less than the cost of the upgrade. The screen is a fraction bigger. Rumble..? Sorry, I don't buy any of these.

The lite cannot possibly make the Switch redundant because it can't Switch. That's the whole point. Adding a TV connection would make it redundant, you've got it backwards man. I can easily see them also releasing a cheaper home only version too as you say, and have the standard Switch be the one that does it all.

Hmm. That'll be a lot of Switches then.

Separate joycons can still do 2 players straight out the door without having to buy extra controllers though. Also, another scenario would be to keep the TV out and phase out the Switch and sell the joycons separately. Anyway, nevermind now. It'll never happen.

Do we know of joycons will connect to the Lite?

 

[Mista]

PSP 2000 and 3000 series had a TV out.

Damn, forgot about those

 

[Fake]

This is going to be a huge hit in Japan.

Of course will be. 3DS still a huge seller there, so they want a sucessor 'look like' system for beat their our portable system.

 

[Allforce]

HDMI removed is understandable though. Its advertised as handheld only and there isn't any handheld that has an HDMI

The original Switch could be used with any USB-C to HDMI adapter and run it on a TV. Not sure why this would be any different. I posted one on the last page.

 

[stranno]

So Tegra T214 Mariko, Jetson Nano, same patched T210, what?

 

[TLZ]

So unfair to Microsoft then?

Why just Microsoft? To any home console in general. It doesn't fall in the category.

 

[Thurible]

I KNEW IT! I'm going to tell my friend he was wrong!

 

[Shifty1897]

+ $200
+ Dpad included
+ No HD Rumble (it's too loud)


- "Slightly better" battery life

It really needed 2x battery life to be a replacement for my 3DS. Not surviving for at least 6 hours of Breath of the Wild is a deal breaker.

 

[Saruhashi]

Well, yeah, I'm just as dissatisfied as you guys. This is the obvious problem with the Lite and Nintendo knew this would be an issue. Look at all these posts in the short time since the news dropped. Meh, I guess Nintendo's gonna Nintendo. Hopefully no one actually fanboys it up and defends (understanding is fine though) the decision to remove the title feature of the Nintendo "Switch" Lite.

What if they had just called it "Nintendo Lite" or something? Presumably the "Switch" remains because of the branding?

Just seems like most people have an issue with "they are calling it X but really it's Y".

If they are still going to sell the original Switch then anyone who wants that can buy it.
Anyone who just wants handheld only can save 100 bucks, I guess.

I don't really understand the root of many of the objections since they will still be selling the original model for the foreseeable future.

So you would be interested in buying the new model but it doesn't do the same things as the original model? Why not just buy the original then?

 

[Mista]

The original Switch could be used with any USB-C to HDMI adapter and run it on a TV. Not sure why this would be any different. I posted one on the last page.

Or just directly connect the HDMI? Thats how I do it. No need for any adapters

 

[BlackTron]

2DS = A 3DS without 3D. Thats Nintendo.

That wasn't nearly as bad.

This is like callng the 2DS, the 3DS lite instead.

 

[FStubbs]

D pad. Sold.

 

[Murdoch]

Man if only there was a dockable version of the switch....

It's £120 more expensive and has multiple breaking points (the joycon rails) if she drops it.

This is cheaper and easier for her to handle (i.e a replacement for her DS)

 

[scalman]

NotSwitch needed many things but then it wouldnt be cheap would it ?
looks too much as fake toy china or smt and colors not great.

 

[Boss Mog]

Well, yeah, I'm just as dissatisfied as you guys. This is the obvious problem with the Lite and Nintendo knew this would be an issue. Look at all these posts in the short time since the news dropped. Meh, I guess Nintendo's gonna Nintendo. Hopefully no one actually fanboys it up and defends (understanding is fine though) the decision to remove the title feature of the Nintendo "Switch" Lite.

If the system was a lot smaller I could understand the no TV, but it's barely smaller so why would you remove a key feature of the switch especially since some games don't even run that great in portable mode. Plus they could have sold a ton of Pro controllers, like a ton.

 

[bronk]

Perfect for me. I never wanted a Switch till now and still play my 3ds. I can play a few games with this like Animal Crossing and other Nintendo only titles. Everything tv related is PS4 for me.

 

[Fake]

That wasn't nearly as bad.

This is like callng the 2DS, the 3DS lite instead.

I have a 2DS, but everytime I boot the console they show a '3DS' logo. The name don't fit so well.

 

[Allforce]

Or just directly connect the HDMI? Thats how I do it. No need for any adapters

Does it have an HDMI out? I honestly didn't know. I'm talking just on the device, not the dock at all.

One of these is how I use it on TV and it's the only way without a dock as far as I know

 

[#Phonepunk#]

Lol at people upset that a portable only model is exactly what it says

If you want docked they released that model years ago. You are complaining about a lack of something that already exists