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Guardian explains why it's time to cancel Quentin Tarantino, asks for donations

llien

Member
In Kill Bill we see violence and more violence, wait for it, against... women (or is it spelled womxn?)...
(But who the heck am I, to assume gender of the victims)
Tarantino is also guilty of not having enough persons of the said gender in the movie.

If you wish to donate to the guardian, the link is at the end of the article.
 

tkscz

Member
TL: DR

"I don't like his movies because they have stuff in them I don't like and not enough stuff in them I do like. So instead of just not watching them and letting the people who enjoy them have fun, I want it gone so I don't have to think about it. Please give us money."
 
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Birdo

Banned
There are so many TV shows and films now that feature a scene where a woman hits a man (TV does it a lot).

I feel like I'm watching some Holywood producer's fetish.
 

nush

Member
Use of the
You should remove the link to the article and just quote the whole thing.

Clicks is all they go for with this kind of bait.
At least don’t give them the sole thing they are going for here.

Use of the term "cancel" shows exactly who they are baiting. They don't care about the problems they just want SJW outrage clicks.
 

Aurelian

my friends call me "Cunty"
I don't think that piece is so much an egregious affront to sensibilities as just like a bad school essay.

There are some legit concerns, but part of the whole point of Kill Bill is that it's a cadre of elite female assassins who are just as ruthless as any man, including against each other. There's even a feminist critique of Bill to be found -- he works through psychological manipulation. He comes across as the classic gaslighter, the sort who'd convince you that it was your fault he beat you up.

I'd focus on things like Tarantino's poor handling of that car crash during Kill Bill and it taking him a while to address it properly (though, to his credit, he did ultimately address it). He's problematic -- he's just not a clear-cut villain like that article wants him to be.
 

Barnabot

Member
The author should have gone with Death Proof instead. Not that I wanted this fool to succeed in his journey of virtue signaling . But in that movie at least one serial killer was actually targeting to kill women.

 
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Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
So tired of the endless moralizing from leftist reactionaries.

Honest to Christ, I thought the moral majority/festival of light types were the pits, but these cunts make them seem positively cuddly.

Its not just the arrogance and sanctimony in the way they position themselves of saviors of public morality, its how they've sailed past the point where they effect a posture of protecting the innocent, its now into full inquisitorial mode. Targeting people for "cancellation" is fucking evil.
 
I'm posting from my phone. But please close your eyes and imagine I posted a gif from Reservoir Dogs where Steve Buscemi is doing his 'world's smallest violin' bit.
 
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slugbahr

Unconfirmed Member
TL: DR

"I don't like his movies because they have stuff in them I don't like and not enough stuff in them I do like. So instead of just not watching them and letting the people who enjoy them have fun, I want it gone so I don't have to think about it. Please give us money."
Tldr..

We're a bunch of dickheads. Give us money.
 

Tesseract

Banned
I don't think that piece is so much an egregious affront to sensibilities as just like a bad school essay.

There are some legit concerns, but part of the whole point of Kill Bill is that it's a cadre of elite female assassins who are just as ruthless as any man, including against each other. There's even a feminist critique of Bill to be found -- he works through psychological manipulation. He comes across as the classic gaslighter, the sort who'd convince you that it was your fault he beat you up.

I'd focus on things like Tarantino's poor handling of that car crash during Kill Bill and it taking him a while to address it properly (though, to his credit, he did ultimately address it). He's problematic -- he's just not a clear-cut villain like that article wants him to be.

 

cryptoadam

Banned
So is their point that female characters should only be strong and on top all the time? Basically every female needs to be a mary sue?

Remember that scene in resevoir dogs when the guy gets his ear cut off? Pretty famous you know stuck in the middle with you. Or "get the gimp"? Or when vincents gun goes off and blows a guys head off in the back of his car?

But who cares about QT's violence towards men! Kill and torture as many men as you want, make them bad guys, victims, whatever. But not a WOMANZ!

Anyways QT is just to talented for this new age. He does his own thing and makes the movies he wants and doesn't pander to SJW's or allow them to affect his work. I mean I am sure SJW's are dying to gender bend Pulp Fiction in its reboot in 2023. Probably why they want him gone.
 

Weiji

Banned
The author should have gone with Death Proof instead. Not that I wanted this fool to succeed in his journey of virtue signaling . But in that movie at least one serial killer was actually targeting to kill women.


But that’s ok see because those womyn were strong and got vengeance. It’s not that you can’t show women being attacked, it’s that you can’t show them as vulnerable or defeatable.

Cuz muh womyn empowerment.
 

BenjiGAF

Member
The stones on Tarantino are amazing. Imagine being a director exclusively so you could be white and say the N word on film and millions of people had to just CONTEND with that.

I love his films. No cancel pls
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
This is the weird shit with ideological extremists, they often end up prosecuting those who fight for their best interests.

Tarantino films champion minorities and underrepresented population; Jackie Brown, Kill Bill, Django Unchained, Death Proof, etc.
They are gore heavy because they aim for expressing the realism in the violence that a lot of victims experience and to which we have grown desensitized to.

Yeah, "cancel Tarantino" and we are left with a "comic book" understanding of what the world really is. My head hurts at the stupidity.
 
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Lanrutcon

Member
I've seen enough interviews with QT to know that he doesn't give a shit, and will happily say that on air using a wide variety of expletives.
 

Papa

Banned
I don't think that piece is so much an egregious affront to sensibilities as just like a bad school essay.

There are some legit concerns, but part of the whole point of Kill Bill is that it's a cadre of elite female assassins who are just as ruthless as any man, including against each other. There's even a feminist critique of Bill to be found -- he works through psychological manipulation. He comes across as the classic gaslighter, the sort who'd convince you that it was your fault he beat you up.

I'd focus on things like Tarantino's poor handling of that car crash during Kill Bill and it taking him a while to address it properly (though, to his credit, he did ultimately address it). He's problematic -- he's just not a clear-cut villain like that article wants him to be.

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I don't think that piece is so much an egregious affront to sensibilities as just like a bad school essay.

There are some legit concerns, but part of the whole point of Kill Bill is that it's a cadre of elite female assassins who are just as ruthless as any man, including against each other. There's even a feminist critique of Bill to be found -- he works through psychological manipulation. He comes across as the classic gaslighter, the sort who'd convince you that it was your fault he beat you up.

I'd focus on things like Tarantino's poor handling of that car crash during Kill Bill and it taking him a while to address it properly (though, to his credit, he did ultimately address it). He's problematic -- he's just not a clear-cut villain like that article wants him to be.
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GreyHorace

Member
Make a movie that counters everything Quentin Tarantino represents, instead of calling for a boycott like a coward.

The nerve of these people. I may think Tarantino is overrated nowadays, and his filmography is not good as the Coen Brothers IMO, but he deserves to make his art the way he wants it.
 

Raziel

Member
as the quality of his films continue to decline, it does make more bare the legitimacy of these kinds of accusations/criticisms. i used to think he was simply "equal opportunity" when it comes to violence. both men and women suffer gruesome violence/deaths. but the more i think about the violence in all his films, the violence against women are the most drawn out/reveled in/memorable. like even in films he didnt direct but wrote, patricia arquette gets one of the most vicious beatings in any tarantino script.

what kind of seals the deal for me is hearing the stories about how it was him actually strangling a woman in inglorious basterds and him spitting on uma thurman in kill bill, because he wanted it to be realistic and thought he was the only one could get it right...lol. like, however talented he is (or used to be), i think its okay to acknowledge that he is kind of a creep that gets off on feet and causing/seeing woman pain. i think by now to deny the latter would be as foolish to deny the former. both are in once upon a time... again btw.
 
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EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
as the quality of his films continue to decline, it does make more bare the legitimacy of these kinds of accusations/criticisms. i used to think he was simply "equal opportunity" when it comes to violence. both men and women suffer gruesome violence/deaths. but the more i think about the violence in all his films, the violence against women are the most drawn out/reveled in/memorable. like even in films he didnt direct but wrote, patricia arquette gets one of the most vicious beatings in any tarantino script.

what kind of seals the deal for me is hearing the stories about how it was him actually strangling a woman in inglorious basterds and him spitting on uma thurman in kill bill, because he wanted it to be realistic and thought he was the only one could get it right...lol. like, however talented he is (or used to be), i think its okay to acknowledge that he is kind of a creep that gets off on feet and causing/seeing woman pain. i think by now its as foolish to deny the latter as it would be to deny the former. both are in once upon a time... again btw.

Violence against women evokes completely different emotions than violence against men, and serves different narrative purposes.
 
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