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[Stuart360]

$649+ Canadian —-> very slow uptake here. I see 24-36 months where 99% of stuff is cross gen. I kinda want to get one at launch, but this home owning thing has made me into one cheap bastard, lol. Psnow/stadia/gamepass....looking better, haha. Lag aint so bad, it gives me time to appreciate whats going on on screen.

Ha ha, i can see streaming services using that as their tagline lol.

 

[SaturnSaturn]

No it doesn't. They already mentioned PS4 BC months ago. They are trickling out info from an investor meeting, more will be revealed when they are ready to.

They still want to sell PS4s.

There is still no info to what extent, is it only for digital titles or discs also?
Is it every game, or just a select few?

All the info that is available is from the old wired interview

"it won’t be a download-only machine. Because it’s based in part on the PS4’s architecture, it will also be backward-compatible with games for that console. As in many other generational transitions, this will be a gentle one, with numerous new games being released for both PS4 and the next-gen console. (Where exactly Hideo Kojima’s forthcoming title Death Stranding fits in that process is still unconfirmed. When asked, a spokesperson in the room repeated that the game would be released for PS4, but Cerny’s smile and pregnant pause invites speculation that it will in fact be a two-platform release.)"

The only new info is from Famitsu and Sony Interactive Entertainment Japan Asia today that says they are assessing if full compatability is possible.

Spoiler

PS5の気になるポイントをソニーに直撃！ PS4互換は検証中。Ultra HD Blu-rayの再生＆新コントローラーの詳細も | ゲーム・エンタメ最新情報のファミ通.com

2020年年末発売予定であることが明かされたプレイステーション5について、気になることをソニー・インタラクティブエンタテインメントに直撃！

www.famitsu.com

Ergo, no news if it supports discs or only digital purchases or if its free of charge, we should wait until more news surfaces to say "PS4 is confirmed!!!!!112112"

 

[joe_zazen]

Besides saying PS5 is BC a long time ago?

just ps4 tho, right? They havent said anything about 1-3.

edit: thanks for the update SaturnSaturn

 

[NickFire]

So. What about the price? 499?? What you guys think
tbh i don't have much hope for 399 :/

Factoring in their likely ability to get parts much cheaper than what a person might suspect based on retail prices, and today's talk of installing / deleting pieces of games, and the switch to SSD, I'm currently leaning towards a 399 and 499 version with storage size being the main difference. Maybe they explained the new install / delete options just to keep us talking, but I suspect they want to lay seeds for why 500gb ssd on base model is sufficient to start, with the intent of having a cheaper console option to hit the ground running towards maintaining market share.

 

[Vawn]

just ps4 tho, right? They havent said anything about 1-3.

Who knows. But I can confirm Xbox Scarlett definitely will not be compatible with PS1, PS2 or PS3 games.

 

[GenericUser]

Wow, the ps5 is going to be called the ps5.

 

[ManaByte]

There is still no info to what extent, is it only for digital titles or discs also?
Is it every game, or just a select few?

All the info that is available is from the old wired interview

"it won’t be a download-only machine. Because it’s based in part on the PS4’s architecture, it will also be backward-compatible with games for that console. As in many other generational transitions, this will be a gentle one, with numerous new games being released for both PS4 and the next-gen console. (Where exactly Hideo Kojima’s forthcoming title Death Stranding fits in that process is still unconfirmed. When asked, a spokesperson in the room repeated that the game would be released for PS4, but Cerny’s smile and pregnant pause invites speculation that it will in fact be a two-platform release.)"

The only new info is from Famitsu and Sony Interactive Entertainment Japan Asia today that says they are assessing if full compatability is possible.

Spoiler

PS5の気になるポイントをソニーに直撃！ PS4互換は検証中。Ultra HD Blu-rayの再生＆新コントローラーの詳細も | ゲーム・エンタメ最新情報のファミ通.com

2020年年末発売予定であることが明かされたプレイステーション5について、気になることをソニー・インタラクティブエンタテインメントに直撃！

www.famitsu.com

Ergo, no news if it supports discs or only digital purchases or if its free of charge, we should wait until more news surfaces to say "PS4 is confirmed!!!!!112112"

Not doing full PS4 BC would be suicide when going up against Scarlett that has BC back to the original Xbox.

 

[SaturnSaturn]

Not doing full PS4 BC would be suicide when going up against Scarlett that has BC back to the original Xbox.

Scarlett does not have 100% BC, only some select 360 games and OG Xbox games will work. All Xbox one games will work though.

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

This is exciting news, I wish GamerNyc78 and TheLastWord were here with us today to celebrate this glorious news

 

[GymWolf]

Another pad with useless shit and parallel stick, good god sony...

 

[joe_zazen]

Factoring in their likely ability to get parts much cheaper than what a person might suspect based on retail prices, and today's talk of installing / deleting pieces of games, and the switch to SSD, I'm currently leaning towards a 399 and 499 version with storage size being the main difference. Maybe they explained the new install / delete options just to keep us talking, but I suspect they want to lay seeds for why 500gb ssd on base model is sufficient to start, with the intent of having a cheaper console option to hit the ground running towards maintaining market share.

how did ps3 sell first year? I am of the opinion that a $499 USD will sell to hardcores for at least the first year, then they can cut stuff out and make a cheaper ps5 lite If need be.

 

[ManaByte]

Scarlett does not have 100% BC, only some select 360 games and OG Xbox games will work. All Xbox one games will work though.

Yes, all Xbox One games work and all the games in the current BC program run. It'd be incredibly stupid for Sony to limit PS4 BC to just discs on PS5 in light of that.

 

[Rat Rage]

This is what I was expecting. Next gen will further increase speed, but that won't be enough. Games will still look too similar to current gen. Since we have already reached diminishing returns when it comes to graphical fidelity, next gen won't be about graphics anymore.

Rather, it's gonna be the gen of "convenience". That's why things like accessing the games faster due to reduced load times (ssd's and such) will have priority.

I think it's the right way, but I still expect PS5 and XBoxNext to be just more of the same.

 

[GoodIdeaBadIdea]

Dang was hoping they would call it the PlayStation One so that people could be confused about how many previous consoles they have made.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Finally some next gen info.... and it came from the source!

Amazing. Those rumoured u-shaped dev kits were real?!?

Ok MS your turn.

 

[SantaC]

This would be a mistake imo. PS4 was so successful in large part due to clinging to the edge of mass market pricing. $499 is definitely over that edge, and $599 is way over that edge.

That said, with what they seem to promising in terms of hardware, $399 seems impossible. I'm expecting $499 for better or for worse.

It was a joke reference to the PS3 launch price.

 

[longdi]

The talk about installing game in parts, tell me SSD is only 512GB...while games are on 100GB disk.
I hope Sony goes 1TB since those are faster and last longer.

The other bit about 8K, what a waste of resources. Fuck MS and your bullshit. Just keep all next gen at 4K HDR and 60fps vrr

 

[jshackles]

If the final version looks anything like this, I'll pass just because it looks so tacky.

 

[ManaByte]

If the final version looks anything like this, I'll pass just because it looks so tacky.

The notch is to hold your new PSVR headset.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

What people's beef with Jim Ryan? I always thought (from reading/watching various interviews with him in polish magazines or sites) he seemed quite likeable.

Because is one of the main responsable of censoring PS4 games and lack of Japanese original titles in PS4.

 

[dorkimoe]

Hoping for a new controller that doesnt feel like its out of a quarter machine.

 

[ManaByte]

Hoping for a new controller that doesnt feel like its out of a quarter machine.

I just want a battery that lasts more than a couple of hours between charges.

 

[vpance]

i know right

disappoint.

if MS can get theirs out in spring tho...

Spring was the dream. Have to settle with playing 2077 on Pro now.

 

[FranXico]

No it doesn't. They already mentioned PS4 BC months ago. They are trickling out info from an investor meeting, more will be revealed when they are ready to.

They still want to sell PS4s.

They are using PS4 games to demonstrate PS5 features ffs.

 

[Radical Dreamer]

Because is one of the main responsable of censoring PS4 games and lack of Japanese original titles in PS4.

Any context? How do you know that

 

[rashbeep]

Just make the fan quiet and I'll be happy

 

[DeepEnigma]

They are using PS4 games to demonstrate PS5 features ffs.

The whole new store/ecosystem in the PS4 was built for moving forward, like the PC, and like mobile. But whatev, let people concern.

 

[ManaByte]

Any context? How do you know that

Apparently he's responsible for the DMC5 censorship.

He's also against backwards compatibility.

 

[sendit]

Adaptive pressure level on the triggers seems more interesting and innovative than both of those rumble features IMO.

Disagree. Haptic feedback with a hole in the controller could be a game changer.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Any context? How do you know that

is easy to see and know these things.... because the experience of the gaming.

Again... is a bad move of Sony put this person a charge.

 

[ManaByte]

Disagree. Haptic feedback with a hole in the controller could be a game changer.

Think of the hentai games.

 

[HeadsUp7Up]

I'll be hooking up an external hard drive and downloading my entire PS4 library day 1 of purchase. Hope to see some good trade-in deals for the PS4 Pro otherwise I might hold off until the first revision.

 

[Radical Dreamer]

is easy to see and know these things.... because the experience of the gaming.

Lmao what the fuck does that even means..

 

[Croatoan]

confirm me.

Games will be in 4k right?

I wanna buy a new tv but i wanna know if can i get a 4k tv or will need a 8k

So the last of us Part II is the tomb of PS4

Most games will run 1440p (60fps) upscaled to 4k, or 4k (30fps). Some indie games will run 4k (60fps). You have to remember a 2080 ti can barely run games at 4k 60fps on Ultra graphics settings. The PS5 won't be even close to a 1k gpu.

8k isn't happening except for up-scaling.

 

[Endless Fluff]

I'm not a fan of a gamepad having too much rumble shit. Especially in the triggers... the xbox one gamepad feels super tiring when playing Forza, it makes my fingers hurt.

What are you? A baby?

If you had read the article, you would've seen that Polyphony Digital actually comes to the same conclusion.

User tests found that rumble feedback was too tiring to use continuously, so the released version of GT Sport simply didn't use it.

Having the gamepad rumble continuously is annoying and just feels bad, especially when playing longer than an hour and even more so when the rumble is way too strong.

 

[xellos2099alpha]

The question is how much? There is no way to get any kind of decent hardware raytracting in a 500 box

 

[joe_zazen]

Because is one of the main responsable of censoring PS4 games and lack of Japanese original titles in PS4.

?

he ran euroland SIE. Those things came from california, so Kodera/Layden.

If you had read the article, you would've seen that Polyphony Digital actually comes to the same conclusion.

Having the gamepad rumble continuously is annoying and just feels bad, especially when playing longer than an hour and even more so when the rumble is way too strong.

i always turn it off. It sucks that $10+ of next controller will be used for this gimmicky shit.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Lmao what the fuck does that even means..

I know the industry, i have more of 25 years of experience =P.... Is like i said it before... that the last of us part II will be the end of ps4... and there it is...

And remember, the first year is critical for any launch console... remember the bad move of XBox one.

Just imagine Jim Ryan as Reggie from Nintendo, just the difference is a little more worst

 

[ChuyMasta]

The question is how much? There is no way to get any kind of decent hardware raytracting in a 500 box

599 USD!!!

I'm having flashbacks.

 

[Celcius]

I hope the final console looks similar to the dev kits. I don’t want another boring black sleek media box. I want something unique and original that looks like a video game console.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

?

he ran euroland SIE. Those things came from california, so Kodera/Layden.

That person too. im glad until i know that layden is no more here.

 

[Nickolaidas]

Paging Dr. MiyazakiHatesKojima , is Dr. MiyazakiHatesKojima there?

We Imprison Hideo Kojima In An Interview Room Until He Breaks Down And Admits He’s Just Making Shit Up As He Goes Along

If you’ve called yourself a gamer in the past 30 years, then you know the name, Hideo Kojima. As the mastermind writer, director, and designer behind the mind-boggling Metal Gear series and the upcoming PS4 exclusive Death Stranding, Kojima is a force to be reckoned with in the video game world...

ogn.theonion.com

 

[CobraAB]

If the final version looks anything like this, I'll pass just because it looks so tacky.

Who really cares.

I care what is in the box, not how it looks.

Its just a bonus if it does look good.

 

[Dr.brain64]

Oh my... This is effing awesome!!!

4k bluray! Heck yeah!

 

[DeepEnigma]

The question is how much? There is no way to get any kind of decent hardware raytracting in a 500 box

Why, because of the nVidia tax?

We still do not know AMDs solution, but they did show off that their chips even without specialized cores can handle ray tracing.

Considering that Sony and MS both work with AMD and provide a lot of R&D cash, as well as being 150million chips sold combined, they are going to get better bang for the buck than consumer or even card makers will ever get.

 

[spawn]

The controller sounds cool. 100 GB games damn. Hopefully the SSD can hold a lot of data

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

Paging Dr. MiyazakiHatesKojima , is Dr. MiyazakiHatesKojima there?

We Imprison Hideo Kojima In An Interview Room Until He Breaks Down And Admits He’s Just Making Shit Up As He Goes Along

If you’ve called yourself a gamer in the past 30 years, then you know the name, Hideo Kojima. As the mastermind writer, director, and designer behind the mind-boggling Metal Gear series and the upcoming PS4 exclusive Death Stranding, Kojima is a force to be reckoned with in the video game world...

ogn.theonion.com

Leaked footage of Kojima captured:

 

[joe_zazen]

Considering that Sony and MS both work with AMD and provide a lot of R&D cash, as well as being 150million chips sold combined, they are going to get better bang for the buck than consumer or even card makers will ever get.

idk man, i use pc parts picker.

 

[jonnyp]

Glad to see hardware based ray tracing

Personally think it is a total waste of die space.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Woah

In Major Blow To Sony’s Upcoming PlayStation 5, Microsoft Announces PlayStation 6

Sony made waves last month when chief architect Mike Cerny gave a first look at the specs for the next-gen successor to the PlayStation 4, making them the first to throw their hat in the ring for the next round of console wars. But all that excitement just fell by the wayside because today, in a...

ogn.theonion.com

 

[Mithos]

.you may be able to install just a game’s multiplayer campaign, and leave the single-player campaign for later. Or install the whole thing and delete the single-player campaign when you have finished..

Thats a cool idea

Indeed,

Spoiler

will never install multiplayer again.