1000 VR games that nobody gives a shit.
Want to hear something funny? Nintendo Shitty labo VR sold more than AstroBot
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VR not a focus of Project Scarlett, says Phil Spencer
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Want to hear something funny? Nintendo Shitty labo VR sold more than AstroBot
gifgaf
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I wouldn't be surprised, I have never said VR is mainstream but you have no proof of that, just childish lies.1000 VR games that nobody gives a shit.
Want to hear something funny? Nintendo Shitty labo VR sold more than AstroBot
4 million PSVR headsets VS 30 million Nintendo Switch, Not sure what you are trying to say except trying to troll. Kinect sold way more than PSVR has yet PSVR has more games, I wonder why that is. I bet it's because the game attachment rate is much higher for PSVR than Kinect ever was.
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This basically. The minimal latency and absolute 1:1 correlation between motion and display mark out VR as being antithetical to streaming, For all the gaga being talked about machine learning and other strategies in place to mitigate the lag inherent with cloud rendering, its simply a bad match.
source? If so labo sold a lot, great cheap starter to VR for kids.1000 VR games that nobody gives a shit.
Want to hear something funny? Nintendo Shitty labo VR sold more than AstroBot
And they all (including PSVR) sold more than the Xbox One X. Is that funny too?
gifgaf
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I bet labo VR did more harm to VR's image than good.
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Slings and Arrows
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*Looks at the 'isolating' and 'communal' games offered by Nintendo and Sony, which sell multi-million copies*
SleepDoctor
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Nobody was asking for Microsoft to enter the console market either, Phil.
Don't remember someone asking Sony, Nintendo, Panasonic, Atari, or Sega either.
Congratulations, you just played yourself.
Petrae
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Spencerās words will piss off VR evangelists, who will try and spin random numbers and data to disprove what he says... but suffice it to say that Spencer and Microsoft have their own data points to make the determination that VR just isnāt making enough of a debt with the majority of video gaming consumers for them to give a ratās ass about.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
So Microsoft was wrong when they worked on WMR and right when they backpedaled? So if they can do mistakes like the former why are they infallible and totally right with doing the latter? And do you trust them about AR that they've been doubling down on or do you also think that's another mistake they keep making? You can't both blindly trust them to be right or use them as an argument in that what they say is right (uh?) and also trust they make huge mistakes too, lol. Most other companies involved with VR since its inception are sticking with it too when they could have just as easily given up on it if it didn't show signs of necessary growth and potential. Valve saw enough with HTC Vive since 2016 to never go ahead with the release of Index in 2019 if that was the case, Oculus/Facebook had seen enough of how things are going with the CV1 and Go to not keep up product releases with the S and Quest and Sony itself wouldn't be preparing for the eventual PSVR2 (with patents and all) if the success of (an admittedly Frankensteined and not as good as it should have been) PSVR is as you want to imply fabricated.I wonder why. Everyone is saying how much successful PSVR is and that it's the future of gaming!
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Flintty
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It doesnāt hurt to have it available for those who want it though, right? If I could plug my Rift into the X to play NMS VR, thatās a better experience for me and would have saved me buying the game again on PC.
I want it, Phil. Options are good, as long as youāre not pushing it like the Kinect.
I want it, Phil. Options are good, as long as youāre not pushing it like the Kinect.
gifgaf
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Its an addition to gaming, just as a steering wheel is an addition to gaming or a handheld console. I dont ever want to give up flat screen gaming but that does not mean I don't love VR gaming. Why not both? Some people here don't want others to like VR gaming? I do not understand that attitude.
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sublimit
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A mistake that i have the feeling Sony will also repeat next gen with PSVR. I hope i'm wrong though.
Well there's a difference between "add-on" and "that it will change gaming forever" which many people were yelling about. If some people enjoy playing games that way good for them but i don't want companies to waste huge amounts of money on marketing and resources in order to push another add-on gimmick down our throats (like MS did with Kinect).
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Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
When did Sony push PSVR like Microsoft pushed Kinect? Or as anything more than an option? Or is marketing a product and its games too much now, lol?
They should keep it hidden because what? It offends you? Did it damage the PS brand in any way? Is the PS4 not doing so hot because of it?
Not to mention the failure of Kinect was that it didn't actually work, PSVR for all its limitations (that most games work around in design) does, lol.
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sublimit
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I said "next gen".
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
You also said "repeat" implying they've done it before. And no from all we know PSVR2 isn't gonna be prepared for the PS5 launch so already it's gonna be very different to Kinect and thus they can't "repeat" what Microsoft did.
The advent of 3D changed gaming forever, that doesn't mean we no longer have 2D games. So it's not mutually exclusive to say then that it can't change gaming forever if it's not "the" (as in, the only existing, without other things around it) future.
Yes, you "wrote English" and my interpretation wasn't bad English, you just weren't specific enough in your wording as I've already shown/explained in English myself. Why so frustrated with the Jesus stuff? And I've already shown how they can't repeat what MS did anyway.Jesus man. I said repeating MS's mistake with Kinect. I thought i wrote English.
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sublimit
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Jesus man. I said repeating MS's mistake with Kinect. I thought i wrote English.
Vawn
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That's too bad, because VR is badass. Sadly, it's out of reach of most because of the higher cost to entry.
There's also just not enough truly great AAA games built for VR, and those there are split between different units - mainly PC headsets and PSVR.
Half Life will be huge for VR. As will games like Astrobot 2, etc.
There's also just not enough truly great AAA games built for VR, and those there are split between different units - mainly PC headsets and PSVR.
Half Life will be huge for VR. As will games like Astrobot 2, etc.
FranXico
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They are not going to force bundle PSVR2 with the PS5, already confirmed as much.
PSVR support does not restrict the console hardware or limit power, quite the contrary, it demands higher specs.
This is not a Kinect scenario by any stretch of imagination.
Wonko_C
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Exactly my point. If companies only did things we asked for, we wouldn't have anything. So Phil's comment makes no sense to me.
I started with a gearVR which a lot of people were saying the same about. Hopefully it bolsters VR rather than hinders it.I bet labo VR did more harm to VR's image than good.
HeresJohnny
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A wise choice, possibly for the wrong reasons. I donāt play games to be communal. I donāt like interacting with 12 year olds who want to cuss and spew out rap lyrics. I play games to be entertained, not to engage with others. When I go to a movie, I donāt give a flying fuck about one other soul in the theatre, and truth be told, I have a superior experience when the theatre is empty. Why? Because people, by and large, fucking suck.
Iām glad theyāre not going the VR route, because VR is a niche experience that costs too much to implement and is restrictive for where it can be used. Tying a console to it would be stupid imo. Just give me a console that is super powerful that I can chuck a disc in and play on a conventional controller and Iām set.
Iām glad theyāre not going the VR route, because VR is a niche experience that costs too much to implement and is restrictive for where it can be used. Tying a console to it would be stupid imo. Just give me a console that is super powerful that I can chuck a disc in and play on a conventional controller and Iām set.
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DoctorEkkoUK
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We've seen what happens when MS gets sidetracked *cough Kinnect* So this is probably for the best
VR not a focus of Project Scarlett, says Phil Spencer
Phil Spencer has confirmed that VR is not a focus of the upcoming next-gen Project Scarlett. Stevivor used an interview with Spencer at X019 to get an updatestevivor.com
Shmunter
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Nice headshot by Yoshida
Shuhei just Donald Trumped Chillās ass
Journey
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2013. Screw MS for trying to force a peripheral that not everyone cares for. They should've focused all their resources towards Xbox One and games that run off it, not gimmicky Kinect titles.
MS listens to gamers feedback and decides to stay away from a peripheral that not everyone is interested in and focuses all their resources towards a more powerful Scarlett and studios that create games for it and not gimmicky VR titles.
2019. Screw MS for not supporting VR!
mckmas8808
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VR not a focus of Project Scarlett, says Phil Spencer
Phil Spencer has confirmed that VR is not a focus of the upcoming next-gen Project Scarlett. Stevivor used an interview with Spencer at X019 to get an update
WOW! MS is really screwing up here. This is one of the dumbest things Spencer has said in years. He could easily work with Oculus or Valve to allow their VR headsets to work with Xbox Scarlett. Instead he's just going to act like the whole thing doesn't exist? Or even worse.....lie and say nobody wants it?!
You aren't that smart are you? Supporting VR doesn't mean they have to pack in a VR headset in every console purchase.
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DeltaPolarBear
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No one said anything about forcing VR on people. Sony had not, and has no intention to force anyone to buy PSVR. PSVR is made to stand on its own and make itself profitable. People were simply hoping that Microsoft would do the same, in introducing a VR headset for Scarlet but make it an optional peripheral. Microsoft doesn't even need to make games for it; they could at least allow third party games that was made for PSVR to be ported to Scarlet.
VR will succeed by its own merits, neither MS or Sony could force it to happen any faster. Though Valve is having a good crack by releasing HL:Alyx.. Still, there is no guarantee that Alyx would end up being a good game, so no point counting chickens yet.
I Love Rock 'n' Roll
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Microsoft is the new Nintendo. No VR, no online. 
DynamiteCop!
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I have PSVR and outside of a few great games you come to realize just how limited the scope is and how sparse not only good games are, but also the frequency in which they are added.Sounds like a PC Master Race post.
Does it have some excellent titles? Yes, no one is discounting that, but when you look at the level of development and the countless amount of people making games and experiences for PCVR it's a whole other level.
It's like a nebula vs. a galaxy. I can't see it being a lack of interest for developers when it comes to PSVR because by and large it has the most users as far as I can tell; so that leads me to believe that Sony has a somewhat shitty and slow publishing approach which makes it hard to get games on the platform. Furthermore you no doubt need a PS4 development kit which shrinks these margins even more and they're seemingly not easy to get.
There's just too many limitations and hurtles, and it makes the platform the least viable not only for a developer but also the consumer.
mckmas8808
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Ok, but what do they mean by not focusing on VR? It means that Studios they purchased are not going to be focused on making VR titles. Wasn't that all the rage when Rare was designated to make Kinect titles? Let me answer that for you, YES. Thankfully they won't be focusing on that, instead, they can allow a 3rd party device to work on their console and let them worry about it, the way it should be.
mckmas8808
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So why couldn't they just allow the Vive or Oculus VR headset on Scarlett?
Journey
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Nice headshot by Yoshida
Yoshida is Quoting MS 2013 Kinect? That's a first. Maybe since Sony is partnering with MS for Cloud service, now they're being nice to each other.
Journey
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Wonko_C
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Mocking Xbox aside, I seriously would love to play Forza Horizon 4 in VR (or a new one), and feel like I'm in those beautiful UK landscapes. Give us a walk-around mode too like the drone mode. I'll sit in there and make picnics, while watching those beautiful waterfalls. Make interiours for the houses also and let us make parties with our friends.
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Portugeezer
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It doesn't have to be the focus, but they should probably be looking into it. Next gen is when I think a lot of people will be more open to VR, it has had some growing pains but it is a pleasant experience now.
Journey
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From that video
Phil Spencer: "You wanted Power, you wanted Community, you wanted Choice".
The only thing that says VR is the fan added thumbnail.
I'm for VR coming to Scarlet as a 3rd party peripheral, not included in the box or MS making first party studios focus on it.
Journey
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Smart? so not focusing on VR = Not supporting VR in any way?
Don't bring intelligence to the subject if you're not going to use it.
JimboJones
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Nice, focus on the important stuff VR can wait.
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