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[Saruhashi]

Breath of the Wild fanboys are the worst. It does nothing that open world games on other consoles haven't been doing for years. Nintendo fans are new to open world games though so they pretend it's revolutionary.

"I can pick an apple from a tree? ZOMG SO GROUNDBREAKING!"

You could steal cars in 2001. Blame Nintendo for not allowing GTA 3 on their purple lunch box.

Pretty good example of what I mean.

"Hurrr it's a purple lunch box"
"Durr you are just new to open world games so you think BotW is revolutionary"
"Xbox has no games you idiots"
"FromSoft games need an easy mode so my GF can enjoy the story, you entitled pricks"
"Sony's games are just 3rd person crap that is all the same and you are stupid for thinking they are great games"
"The new Final Fantasy is the worst one and if you like it you are a bootlicking corporate shill"
"LOL people would pretend to like anything Kojima makes"

When "fanboys" inevitably respond to this stuff with a bit of fire of their own?

"Reeeeeeeeee! The fanboys are attacking me! Reeeeeeee! They just can't take criticism! Reeeeeee!"

 

[Fat Frog]

Sorry, Nintendo fans. I was joking. You're not like that.


Oh wait !

Why some people here think Bayonetta 2 was a dissapointing sequel?

I have heard people here many times saying Bayonetta 2 was a dissapointing sequel. Maybe they are just a minority but still, I would like to know why from those people.

www.resetera.com

Only gameplay matters "if" it's a Nintendo game. Otherwise, people are "wrong" or "weird" and i must make a thread to fix that lol.

Nintendogs are beyond expectations.

 

[Yoshi]

Sorry, Nintendo fans. I was joking. You're not like that.


Oh wait !

Why some people here think Bayonetta 2 was a dissapointing sequel?

I have heard people here many times saying Bayonetta 2 was a dissapointing sequel. Maybe they are just a minority but still, I would like to know why from those people.

www.resetera.com

Only gameplay matters "if" it's a Nintendo game. Otherwise, people are "wrong" or "weird" and i must make a thread to fix that lol.

Nintendogs are beyond expectations.

It is true that only gameplay matters though, not only for Nintendo games. That being said, this is of course talking about the wider issue of gameplay, not only mechanics (where Bayonetta 1 has more depth), but also pacing and level design (which I think is much more elegant in Bayonetta 2). Either way, pointing out that some Nintendo fans think gameplay is all that matters and some Nintendo fans bring up non-gameplay strengths of one game over the other is not a display of hypocrisis, unless you can show that it is the same person doing it.

 

[TeddyShardik]

Smash and Pokémon. No question.

Never look a Smash player in the eye, shake their hand or talk to them.

 

[Saruhashi]

It is true that only gameplay matters though, not only for Nintendo games. That being said, this is of course talking about the wider issue of gameplay, not only mechanics (where Bayonetta 1 has more depth), but also pacing and level design (which I think is much more elegant in Bayonetta 2). Either way, pointing out that some Nintendo fans think gameplay is all that matters and some Nintendo fans bring up non-gameplay strengths of one game over the other is not a display of hypocrisis, unless you can show that it is the same person doing it.

This is one of the most common tactics used to criticize "fanboys", "haters" and "gamers".

What's hilarious is that the thread Fat Frog shared actually shows differing opinions in post#2 and post#3.
There is literally disagreement on why people think the game is disappointing within the first THREE posts.

That's the level of argumentation here.
"Let me share a link that completely undermines the point I am making as I act like I made a good point."

More hilarious is that post#4 and post#5 AND post#6 and post#7 also oppose each other.

I end up thinking that if this is typical of the dishonest shit that "fanboys" are frequently hit with then it's no wonder they are a bit defensive, maybe a bit too long winded etc.

Also Fat Frog pretty sure we already have a thread for posting ResetEra bullshit.

 

[IKSTUGA]

I'll list some:
- From boys. Souls games need an easy mode, I'm not autistic enough to jump straight into this shit. It's 2019.
- Kojima boys. Most overrated game director of all time. I Enjoyed MGS 1 & 2, but come on...
- Sony fanboys. PS consoles are great and they have some amazing exclusives, but the first party stuff is so damn boring, for the most part.
- Nintendo fanboys, who only play on Nintendo consoles. These are some of the most delusional people I've ever seen. I LOVE Nintendo, but it's pretty damn clear they're not the best at literally everything.
- Smash fans. Yeah nobody gets as excited about some tiny dlc as these guys (Banjo was pretty hype, but otherwise). Also, competitive smash is retarded.
- Pokemon fans. Just look at the recent dexit controversy. Absolutely spastic.
- MOBA/Starcraft/Overwatch fans. Everybody knows that fighting games are the only interesting games to watch.

 

[Fat Frog]

Yoshi

Doesn't change the fact that a nintendo fan created a thread just because he thinks some people are strange. Because he wants to understand...

Just leave a comment on a bayonetta OT but don't make a thread about a "strange" opinion on 1 video game...

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Not a single title/franchise, but Rockstar and Naughty Dog fanboys have been just insufferable these last years.

1st party games of any console. It's a tough one though. Sony fanboys VS. Nintendo fanboys. They are still battling it out for worst fanboys. But Nintendo fanboys still are the crown holders of fanboys.

Not anymore IMO. Nintendo's been through some pretty rough years and it's undeniable that their hardware is underpowered and their first-party franchises don't exactly rock the gaming world anymore apart from Smash and Zelda. Their IPs are still solid, but they're peanuts if compared to GTA, RDR, The Witcher or Uncharted/TLOU.

Now Sony fanboys, I can agree with that. But it's easy to shut down criticism when you're the undisputed market leader.

Pokemon.

Pokémon is getting hated even by its fans these days.

Kojima fanboys

True, LOL.

 

[Yoshi]

Yoshi

Doesn't change the fact that a nintendo fan created a thread just because he thinks some people are strange. Because he wants to understand...

Just leave a comment on a bayonetta OT but don't make a thread about a "strange" opinion on 1 video game...

Make up your mind what you want to talk about. The op has only posted a pretty inoccuous question: What is the reason some find Bayonetta 2 disappointing. None of the rest in your previous posting appears in his (only) posting in the thread. Maybe he just saw a couple of postings over the months where people casually mentioned they found B2 disappointing, was surprised about this and wanted to know what it is they disliked? That's pretty low on the totem pole of fanboy behaviour (it stands to question whether it even is fanboy behaviour).

 

[Saber]

Pokémon is getting hated even by its fans these days.

You haven't read much of Pokemon these days, have you?

 

[Plague Doctor]

To get specific?

Fallout 76 fanboys. Company has committed product fraud (on multiple occasions - canvas bag/nuka dark), bugs, doxxing their own customers, unplayable game at launch for some, bugs, banned people who were just reporting bugs in their game, lied on its MTX promise, implemented a $100 sub tier, bugs, and I am forgetting a few. You could make a top 5 Fallout 76 fuck ups and still leave some out.

But Fallout 76 fanboys will tell you that anyone who criticizes the game is a hater. They are the prized fandom other publishers want that will just accept anything that is plopped out. They are the type of people that lower the bar for the rest of the video game customer base. Fallout 76 fans make people who have stuck with Anthem seem logical and smart by comparison. Chances are, any other fandom mentioned in this thread would have walked away if their games pulled half the shit that Fallout 76 has pulled on its audience. But it still has defenders....

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

You haven't read much of Pokemon these days, have you?

90% of what I’ve seen about Pokémon lately is people bitching about some Dexit BS and the few people openly admitting to liking SwSh being told they’re slaves to a company, LOL. There’s been a lot of negativity around SwSh in the last weeks, what egregious display of fanboyism did I miss?

I don’t follow Pokémon discussion too closely these days because it’s mostly a bunch of loud 30+yo crybabies gatekeeping against any change and screeching at Game Freak for not doing... stuff. It’s like their life depended on a Pokémon game being exactly what they want it to be and nothing else.

 

[Saber]

I don’t follow Pokémon discussion too closely these days because it’s mostly a bunch of loud 30+yo crybabies gatekeeping against any change and screeching at Game Freak for not doing... stuff. It’s like their life depended on a Pokémon game being exactly what they want it to be and nothing else.

Well, for one you already proved the Pokemon fans are the worse than you already stated.

 

[Saruhashi]

90% of what I’ve seen about Pokémon lately is people bitching about some Dexit BS and the few people openly admitting to liking SwSh being told they’re slaves to a company, LOL. There’s been a lot of negativity around SwSh in the last weeks, what egregious display of fanboyism did I miss?

I don’t follow Pokémon discussion too closely these days because it’s mostly a bunch of loud 30+yo crybabies gatekeeping against any change and screeching at Game Freak for not doing... stuff. It’s like their life depended on a Pokémon game being exactly what they want it to be and nothing else.

Pokemon is an interesting case because what you are actually seeing is a division among fanboys.

Pokemon is one of those things where every new iteration has a bunch of new fans getting into what is basically an entry level RPG and having a nice time with it. However the flip side of that is fans who absolutely loved a previous version getting annoyed because the series is still catering to those new/casual fans.

So it's almost like you've got "former fanboys" who are outraged over Dexit and performance issues and they are super mad at the "current fanboys" who are fine with the whole thing and happy to play their game.

So you have a clash between those two groups.
Corporate Boot Licking Shills vs Angry Over A Kids Videogame.
Both groups simultaneously insult each other while crying that the other group is being unreasonable.

 

[deriks]

Is kinda weird because Nintendo and Sony as a whole there's annoying people all over the place, and they say they have the best shit because of "my exclusive is better", which leads to nowhere. I guess that I never saw any real Xbox fanboy, but people who kinda hates Sony and "are adults", so they don't buy Nintendo stuff either and keeps with Xbox or PC. I could also argue that people who says that "consoles are dumb" and get a PC for the sake of multitasking are even dumber...

Point is: any fanboy is a piece of shit

 

[bilderberg]

Doom fans and classic fps fans in general
Devil May Cry fans who tell me i'm playing the game wrong "NOOOO, THE ENEMIES AREN'T SUPPOSED TO TRY AND KILL YOU. THAT"S BAD GAME DESIGN." and unironically thinking Dante is the coolest character ever.
Blood/Souls fans who think you're an idiot because you haven't watched hour long youtube videos about some random dude's made up interpretation of the non-nonsensical lore. Dark Souls is "show don't tell to its finest"..no it fucking isn't. You read a bunch of item descriptions, that's it.

 

[Humdinger]

Xbox fanboys bother me the most, but that's because I'm a Sony fanboy. I find the adulation of Phil annoying. He is likeable but is not producing good games. That's the bottom line. I don't give a shit if I can get 100 games for a dollar on Game Pass. I want games worth playing.

 

[cireza]

Nintendo fans are really something.

 

[Bigrx1]

Every fanboy is dumb and full of shit but, to me, corporate apologists are the worse (those who defend the absolutely worst money hungry companies - companies that charge microtransactions on top of a full price game, etc.

"You see, you say they fucked you up your ass but it could be worse. Their dick is soft at least, other companies have spikes on them. Be fucking thankful!".

I think this could be expanded too into things like MMO's. They were all subscription based, about 15 bucks per month, and there was literally nothing you couldn't earn in-game with that paid subscription. Then F2P became a huge thing so now you didn't have to pay a monthly sub, but a lot of things like cosmetics and sometimes other things like boosts or certain play areas were in the cash shop. So it was kind of a trade off. But now, it's just become the norm to have a sub AND a cash shop AND a full retail box price (some don't but FFXIV has all 3 for example with many cash shop items not available in-game now or had been at any point in time). And people will defend this shit like nothing else, to the bone they will - so, it continues to exist and thrives. It's these fanbois and apologists that make it possible and sustainable.

 

[petran79]

Halo fans. Who on their right mind would praise a 60 fps locked console FPS on PC with countless issues too.

 

[Danjin44]

Halo fans. Who on their right mind would praise a 60 fps locked console FPS on PC with countless issues too.

 

[Jigsaah]

I personally don't consider FROM games have crushing difficult especially compare to games like Nocturne or Catherine. What Souls, Bloodborne and even Sekiro does is punish your carelessness.

Hol up, hol up, hoooooooooooooooooooool up

You tellin me I'm careless because I have a hard time properly dodging a giant albino demon ape who shits and throws poop at you on demand and carries his head like a got damn football?

I'm careless?

 

[lock2k]

Halo fans. Who on their right mind would praise a 60 fps locked console FPS on PC with countless issues too.

I love Halo and I agree with you

 

[Danjin44]

Hol up, hol up, hoooooooooooooooooooool up

You tellin me I'm careless because I have a hard time properly dodging a giant albino demon ape who shits and throws poop at you on demand and carries his head like a got damn football?

I'm careless?

Honestly yes! When he throws his poop jump backwards not while his still holding it in his hands and when you sever his head he becomes much easier fight because you can deflecting his attacks and even stun him when he does his big sword attack. there is no learning curve to FROM's game combat system like you see in DMC, PlatinumGames and fighting games, you just need to pay attention to boss's attack patterns and animation.

 

[DragoonKain]

Aren't all fanboys just the same people stanning different games? John Smith Pokemon fanboy might also stan for Zelda for example.

 

[Kenpachii]

League of legends rofl

 

[Jigsaah]

Honestly yes! When he throws his poop jump backwards not while his still holding it in his hands and when you sever his head he becomes much easier fight because you can deflecting his attacks and even stun him when he does his big sword attack. there is no learning curve to FROM's game combat system like you see in DMC, PlatinumGames and fighting games, you just need to pay attention to boss's attack patterns and animation.

Here's my point. I don't think it's carelessness that they punish. Rather, It's a person inability to adapt and learn coupled with a smattering of "Oh Shit!" moments. I fought the last boss like 30-40 times before finally beating him. I wasn't being careless, it just took me that long to learn all the tells and timing to get to the point where I had mastered that fight. Carelessness, is when you simply don't succeed because you neglect the learning process altogether. It's during that learning process that you experience the difficulty of the game.

 

[sonomamashine]

Did someone mentioned Death stranding ?

 

[Danjin44]

Here's my point. I don't think it's carelessness that they punish. Rather, It's a person inability to adapt and learn coupled with a smattering of "Oh Shit!" moments. I fought the last boss like 30-40 times before finally beating him. I wasn't being careless, it just took me that long to learn all the tells and timing to get to the point where I had mastered that fight. Carelessness, is when you simply don't succeed because you neglect the learning process altogether. It's during that learning process that you experience the difficulty of the game.

Thats fair, in my experience 90% my death in Sekiro was my own carelessness, for example when a enemy clearly doing thrust attack I made a mistake trying jump backwards instead of doing Mikiri Counter.

 

[Jigsaah]

Thats fair, in my experience 90% my death in Sekiro was my own carelessness, for example when a enemy clearly doing thrust attack I made a mistake trying jump backwards instead of doing Mikiri Counter.

Fair Enough, let's say Sekiro also punishes carelessness. The two don't have to be mutually exclusive. But that's what makes Sekiro (and Souls games in general) great

 

[ViolentP]

I feel like too many times when I read some Nintendo loving bullshit, I am correct in assuming the poster has a Nintendo themed avatar.

 

[Saruhashi]

Judging by the thread, I think it's fair to say that there are more people crying about "fanboys" than there are actual fanboys.

Beginning to wonder if "fanboy" isn't just the go to strawman argument for the videogame community.

I mean, these are arguments where there can't really be a winner.

A: I like Sekiro.
B: OK, well I hate Sekiro because Reason X, Reason Y, Reason Z.
A: What? I totally disagree with these, the game is awesome.
B: Oh my god you are such a fanboy.
A: Oh my god you are such a hater.

Rinse and repeat.

The Fallout 76 example is pretty great because I think the game just seems terrible to the vast majority of people. Even then there is a small group of people who love the game

The problem then is that any where you are having videogame discussions these people are stuck in a no win situation. If they respond to criticism of the game they like or they will be branded a "fanboy" and if they just say nothing at all then they can't talk about a game they like. It's kind of stupid. People should just shut up about things they like? Or they should just not say anything about criticism of a thing they like?

I dunno, the more I think about it the more I feel like people who are passionate and enthusiastic (even if it is annoying) about a thing they like have a lot more going for them than people who just want to mindlessly tear things down. Especially when the "tear it all down" side of the coin has these sneaky little tactics like calling people "fanboys" when the criticism is dismissed.

 

[MilkyJoe]

What's the last word's favourite game?

 

[Damien Crowley]

What's the last word's favourite game?

Hmmm... i go with "Sony"

 

[brian0057]

The fans of any game made by Hideo Kojima.
They act like everything he makes is the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, regardless of how good or mediocre (most of them) are.
Kojima himself seems like a cool dude, maybe a little narcissistic but cool nonetheless.
His fans, on the other hand, make religious fanatics look like edgelord atheists.

CDPR fanboys

Also, this.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Well, for one you already proved the Pokemon fans are the worse than you already stated.

Pokemon is an interesting case because what you are actually seeing is a division among fanboys.

Pokemon is one of those things where every new iteration has a bunch of new fans getting into what is basically an entry level RPG and having a nice time with it. However the flip side of that is fans who absolutely loved a previous version getting annoyed because the series is still catering to those new/casual fans.

So it's almost like you've got "former fanboys" who are outraged over Dexit and performance issues and they are super mad at the "current fanboys" who are fine with the whole thing and happy to play their game.

So you have a clash between those two groups.
Corporate Boot Licking Shills vs Angry Over A Kids Videogame.
Both groups simultaneously insult each other while crying that the other group is being unreasonable.

Ah well, there's been a misunderstanding then.

"Fanboy" is a word I associate with "Corporate Boot Licking Shill". Those who'll keep defending the company in the face of anything. BTW, "defending" is not the same as "supporting". You can keep buying the games while being well aware of the problems and acknowledging them. "I like this game despite its flaws" is not the same as "This game is flawless and you're all haters".

So I don't consider all those whiners Pokémon fanboys. I have a hard time even calling them fans, LOL. I mean, when fans are more annoying towards the company/product they should be fans of than towards people who don't care, then there's a problem. With fans like these, who needs haters?

 

[Strazyplus]

There is only one most extreme fanboi base, some might found them annoying in the past especially around some E3 shows, spite the years they endured and held on. Above four years ago they been shaken by the epistle.

The half-life fan base. waiting for that special number three. their suffering and wait is not over. But after over ten years finally, they have a half-life game to play. They will strap a brick to the face to enjoy it I know I sure will.

 

[Saber]

Ah well, there's been a misunderstanding then.

"Fanboy" is a word I associate with "Corporate Boot Licking Shill". Those who'll keep defending the company in the face of anything. BTW, "defending" is not the same as "supporting". You can keep buying the games while being well aware of the problems and acknowledging them. "I like this game despite its flaws" is not the same as "This game is flawless and you're all haters".

So I don't consider all those whiners Pokémon fanboys. I have a hard time even calling them fans, LOL. I mean, when fans are more annoying towards the company/product they should be fans of than towards people who don't care, then there's a problem. With fans like these, who needs haters?

Thats an interest take. I agree with some points you made.
Although fans can be annoying for a lot of reasons, either valid or not, I wouldn't call their advancing hate though. When a good amount of supports complain about something, this is generally a sight of something is going wrong.

 

[Roni]

The RE fanbase can be pretty wild. I remember my time in the Capcom-Unity forums was punctuated by a lot of insanity. There are people there willing to boycott the entire company because they changed a character's actor or because of a camera perspective choice!

 

[ShinNL]

My overall impression of the fanboys are:

PC: Too elite and blames their hardware every time for their lack of skills (you got beaten by a wireless kb/mouse and 200ping player, upgrading your monitor's response time by 2ms isn't gonna save you)
Xbox: Pretty chill, but stupid (for accepting Xbox Live since day 1)
Sony: Delusional (no one wants a Sony mash up kart racer)
Nintendo: Hypocrites (complains about lack of 3rd party and proceeds to never buy 3rd party)

As a mostly Switch gamer nowadays, Nintendo fanboys are my worst enemies. At first they spammed about the lack of third party support. Then you look at the sales of all the released good/high-effort third party ports and it's clear these people rather buy Captain Toad than any of the mountain of third party games that I buy (sample of physical releases: Doom, Wolfenstein, Diablo, Skyrim, Witcher, Dark Souls, Dragon's Dogma, Assassin's Creed, Resident Evil, Dragon Ball, etc. etc.). When I see the list of almost every Switch owner I puke rainbows.

Edit: Just fixing some typo's

 

[flacopol]

Exclusivity console fanboys

 

[cartman414]

There's nothing I hate more than lying hypocrites!

Where's the lie? You're the one who threw an unnecessary swear fit.

So this is some kinda of grudge you wont let go? Typical of a fanatic fanboi, you must be talking about this thread. I stated an opinion and you and your buddy assaulted me for not agreeing with my opinion, very respectable of you!



And you don't get to decide what I do and do not like! You don't like my taste in games? Good! I think your taste in games is trash too, but the difference here I don't follow you around like some creepy stalker keeping tabs with whats been said ages ago in different threads. And I'm going to keep calling your game trash till the day I die, letting everyone I know how much I hate it, so you might as well give up following me around.

I'm citing your old activity as PROOF that you yourself have mocked on other people's tastes, not out of obsession.

 

[sid2vicious]

Where's the lie? You're the one who threw an unnecessary swear fit.



I'm citing your old activity as PROOF that you yourself have mocked on other people's tastes, not out of obsession.

Your still going at it, man you truly are pathetic! Let it go man, NOBODY CARES!!!

 

[cartman414]

Your still going at it, man you truly are pathetic! Let it go man, NOBODY CARES!!!

You don't get to be the one to say that after kind of starting it.

 

[sid2vicious]

You don't get to be the one to say that after kind of starting it.

You DO realize the more you go on, the more you're proving me right, right?

 

[Carna]

I hate anyone who is a Sonic fan, give me likes!

 

[vito_don_corleone_]

Nintendo “fans”. Obviously.

 

[n0razi]

Nintendo 1st party by a mile... and I love Nintendo 1st party games

 

[cartman414]

You DO realize the more you go on, the more you're proving me right, right?

Ok, you win, but only because I made the mistake of feeding a troll. And that's my last word.

* mic drop *

 

[sid2vicious]

Ok, you win, but only because I made the mistake of feeding a troll. And that's my last word.

* mic drop *