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[Insane Metal]

LG's 2020 TVs: Massive 8K screens and the first 48-inch 4K OLED

Prior to LG's CES 2020 press conference this morning, the company had already revealed a slew of "Real 8K" televisions, and announced that the rollable 4K OLED TV we saw at last year's show will be ready to go on sale later this year. Both of those were present in its demo area, and looked...

www.engadget.com

I have a 49" LED TV which fits me just fine, a 48" OLED screen would be amazing. Should be fairly cheaper than their 55" counterparts.

 

[Spukc]

Why would a 48 inch be cheaper tho?
Higher pixel density
And less mass produced...

 

[GHG]

Yep the 48 inch OLED is targeting the PC gaming market since people are buying c9's for the 120hz and gsync support.

Will be interesting to see how well it does and how they price it.

 

[Knightime_X]

Wonder what kind of nightmare fuel 480p or 720p looks on an 8k monitor.

 

[GHG]

Wonder what kind of nightmare fuel 480p or 720p looks on an 8k monitor.

Depends on the internal scaler and what algorithms they use.

To be honest most of the scalers are very good now so it's not far off what you'd get with a same size screen at native 720p.

But seriously, who still watches 480p content?

 

[Knightime_X]

Depends on the internal scaler and what algorithms they use.

To be honest most of the scalers are very good now so it's not far off what you'd get with a same size screen at native 720p.

But seriously, who still watches 480p content?

Bruh...
My picture should speak volumes.
I'm all about that retro and emulation.

Still waiting on a tv that's as magical as pc monitor CRT sets at larger sizes.

 

[Insane Metal]

Bruh...
My picture should speak volumes.
I'm all about that retro and emulation.

You're good with a CRT flat screen

 

[GHG]

Bruh...
My picture should speak volumes.
I'm all about that retro and emulation.

If you emulate then it shouldn't be much of an issue because you can run games at higher resolutions.

If you're doing retro you should invest in a CRT rather than spend big money on an 8k OLED and waste it.

Just my opinion

 

[Knightime_X]

You're good with a CRT flat screen

Do they make them in 65" though?
Don't want no short short tv.

.....ugh.
Cringe.
Won't say that again.

 

[Insane Metal]

Do they make them in 65" though?

Oh. No. lol

Just keep it on small screens bro.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Very interested in the 48 inch OLED. Need to learn more

 

[rofif]

Bruh...
My picture should speak volumes.
I'm all about that retro and emulation.

Still waiting on a tv that's as magical as pc monitor CRT sets at larger sizes.

8k is even better than 4k when it comes to integer scaling.
640x480, 720p, 1080p, 4k. All scale on 8k by integer which even nvidia now supports. So retro gaming it not an issue

 

[dolabla]

These tv's are definitely aimed at gamers. I am so getting that 48". Posted this in the OLED owners thread. Picture of the 48". I love that the stand is in the middle. Seems a lot of tv makers are making these ridiculously wide stands which I hate.

 

[MDSLKTR]

I don't see HDMI 2.1 mention... Someone please correct me.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

48” what year is it?

My main tv is a 65” 4k OLED and I want to upgrade to a 75” next.

 

[dolabla]

I don't see HDMI 2.1 mention... Someone please correct me.

It has 2.1.

LG 2020 4K OLED TVs with G-Sync, 48

On top of HDMI 2.1, LG is adding G-Sync, FreeSync, HGiG Mode, Filmmaker Mode, an upgraded video processor, more

www.flatpanelshd.com

LG has unveiled its 2020 line-up of 4K OLED TVs comprising BX, CX, GX, and WX from 48 to 77 inches. On top of HDMI 2.1, LG is adding G-Sync, FreeSync, HGiG Mode, Filmmaker Mode, an upgraded video processor, and more.

 

[Insane Metal]

48” what year is it?

My main tv is a 65” 4k OLED and I want to upgrade to a 75” next.

Some of us need a smaller tv, like me.

I am so getting this one.

 

[Honjo]

I think I'll hold out for 12K.

 

[dolabla]

LG says the PPI on the 48" is comparable to that of a 96" 8K TV

LG OLED TVs Make Creators' Dreams Come True, Bringing Cinema, Sports, Gaming to Life in New Ways | LG NEWSROOM

2020 LG OLED and LG NanoCell TVs Ready to Stun with Innovative Design, Best Picture Quality, Enhanced Features, Wide Selection of Compelling Content LAS VEGAS, Jan. 6, 2020 – LG Electronics (LG), the

www.lgnewsroom.com

For 2020, while offering new versions of the two popular 4K UHD series (models CX, BX) in 77-, 65- and 55-inch class sizes, LG is also bringing the unparalleled picture quality of LG OLED TV to an all-new screen size – 48-inch. This 4K UHD unit (model OLED48CX) reproduces even sharper picture quality with 8 million-plus pixels on the 48-inch screen, density comparable to that of a 96-inch 8K TV.

 

[Ar¢tos]

48” what year is it?

My main tv is a 65” 4k OLED and I want to upgrade to a 75” next.

Space limitations...
I have 2 TVs next to each other, so the max I can fit is 2x 50". 48 is ideal.

 

[MightySquirrel]

I would like to see 40" 120 Hz OLED, but with 48" they're going in the right direction. Let's see the price. Imo 2019 LG C9 120 Hz freesync already made all those nvidia's big format gaming displays redundant since they're priced much better.

 

[PocoJoe]

48” what year is it?

My main tv is a 65” 4k OLED and I want to upgrade to a 75” next.

Not everyone lives in a mansion so 40-48" can be enough.

Many have just 1 room and kitchen, so viewing distance is 1.5-2m and 48" is good for that.

I could get Sony 48" OLED if they make on, to replace my 48" 1080p lcd Sony, but it runs and looks fine after 4-5 years so not in a hurry.

55-65" tv looks just stupid if sitting place is too far away(more than 2-3m), so smaller tv but much closer is imo nicer option for people that live alone or have small apartment

 

[johntown]

What a waste of money. Do people even realize how large the screen needs to be to actually notice any difference?

 

[Mato]

What would I even do with so many pixels? Diminishing returns for sure.

 

[EverydayBeast]

8K will be highly desirable.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

On yeah I'm in on the 48 Day One. Where can I preorder

 

[Codes 208]

48” what year is it?

My main tv is a 65” 4k OLED and I want to upgrade to a 75” next.

Bedrooms, how do they work?

 

[T8SC]

48” what year is it?

My main tv is a 65” 4k OLED and I want to upgrade to a 75” next.

It's 2020, 75" is so 2018.

 

[Nydus]

Im kinda tempted to get the 48" as a monitor...but I bet it's still too big for a desk

 

[Karak]

Depends on the internal scaler and what algorithms they use.

To be honest most of the scalers are very good now so it's not far off what you'd get with a same size screen at native 720p.

But seriously, who still watches 480p content?

Ya some amazing scalers out there.
For me though I have a shitton of older movies and do watch them all the time. Many are 480p

 

[dolabla]

The 48" market is ramping up. Sony is announcing a 48" OLED model too:

Sony’s first TVs of 2020 include its smallest 4K OLED ever

It’s a lineup that’s evenly split between LCD and OLED.

www.theverge.com

Sony has announced its first TVs of 2020, and among them is the 48-inch Master Series A9S, the company’s smallest 4K OLED ever. At the top of the lineup is a new 8K LCD TV, the 85- or 75-inch Sony Z8H, followed by the A8H OLED, which is available in 65-inch and 55-inch variants. Rounding out Sony’s announcements today are two new LCD ranges, the X950H and X900H, which are available in sizes ranging from 49 inches to 85 inches.

 

[dolabla]

Here's an actual picture of the LG 48" at CES and few comments.

LG OLED65CX OLED TV First Impressions [UPDATED]

Plenty to get excited about.

www.forbes.com

I also got to spend a few minutes just before publishing this article checking out a 48-inch OLED48CX running a PC racing game at 120fps (something LG’s new OLED TVs can support from HDMI 2.0 sources this year; you don’t need an HDMI 2.1 source like you did last year). And the results looked stunning, as silky smooth motion joined forces with the extra sharpness you get from squeezing a 4K resolution into a 48-inch screen.

LG also claims that while it’s hard to measure, input lag should be as low as 5ms or so when gaming in 120fps.

 

[V2Tommy]

Babe?

Where?

 

[V2Tommy]

What a waste of money. Do people even realize how large the screen needs to be to actually notice any difference?

They’re gonna notice it’s OLED, even if it was 1080p.

 

[Max_Po]

any increase in pixel density over the previous years models ?

 

[johntown]

They’re gonna notice it’s OLED, even if it was 1080p.

Yeah I just meant the 8k. The screen has to be as large as a movie theater to notice a difference from 4K.

 

[FeldMonster]

The 48" market is ramping up. Sony is announcing a 48" OLED model too:

Sony’s first TVs of 2020 include its smallest 4K OLED ever

It’s a lineup that’s evenly split between LCD and OLED.

www.theverge.com

Ooh, 85" nice. I thought I was satisfied with my 75", but after awhile, it doesn't seem so big anymore. Will need to upgrade sometime next gen.

 

[Setzer]

Was hoping for top emission panels this year but probably not happening until 2021.

Looks I'll be holding off on OLED for another year.

 

[Siri]

4k at 120Hz through HDMI 2.0?

Now I have C9 buyer’s remorse because my C9 is connected to my RTX 2080TI.

Damn. I guess it’s up to RealTek now to deliver that Display Port to HDMI 2.1 converter.

 

[grfunkulus]

4k at 120Hz through HDMI 2.0?

Now I have C9 buyer’s remorse because my C9 is connected to my RTX 2080TI.

Damn. I guess it’s up to RealTek now to deliver that Display Port to HDMI 2.1 converter.

What? How? Bandwidth isn't there. Just give us one with displayport already

 

[dolabla]

Here's more of a hands on review of the 48.

LG CX 48-inch OLED (OLED48CXPUA)

We go hands-on with LG's new smaller 48-inch 4K OLED to find out if it can keep up with its big brothers in terms of quality and features.

www.trustedreviews.com

With a smaller screen size that will suit a lot of people, the LG CX 48-inch OLED (OLED48CXPUA) opens up OLED technology to a wider range of people that have been wanting a high-quality 4K television. While the TV may be smaller than previous models, it's big on features, with Filmmaker Mode, Dolby Vision IQ and nVidia G-Sync technology all built in.

Now, dropping the diagonal screen size by seven inches may not sound like a lot but the OLED48CXPUA feels sufficiently smaller than its predecessors. In fact, it’s small enough that it could be placed on a desk easily enough if you wanted a large 4K display to use.

More likely than not, this size TV makes it easier for people with smaller lounges or those that don’t want their living room to be dominated by the television to buy into OLED.

As you can see from the image, the OLED48CXPUA looks and feels significantly smaller than the models that went before it, and I think that this size will be a big success in the UK where rooms are traditionally smaller than in the US.

Externally the OLED48CXPUA looks very similar to last year’s C9. Slim bezels, a very slim panel and a neat stand make this TV as attractive as last year’s model.

As with last year’s model, this model has four HDMI 2.1 inputs (three side and one rear), which gives you plenty of options for connecting up devices.

LG has gone to town this year with this model, and it has pretty much every feature and standard that you could want. For HDR, there’s support for Dolby Vision, HDR10 and HLG, plus this model gets the new Dolby Vision IQ tech. This uses the ambient light sensor in the TV to adjust the HDR mode to suit the level of light. In other words, whether you watch in a bright room or a darkened room, you get the same level of performance.

There’s also the Filmmaker Mode, a new feature endorsed by Hollywood, which is designed to show films the way that they were meant to be displayed, including turning off certain features (motion processing and noise reduction) and maintaining colours and aspect ratios. Expect to hear a lot more about this in reviews of 2020 televisions.

Voice Assistant wise you’re spoilt for choice, as the TV supports Amazon Alexa and Google Assistant natively so that you can voice-control your television using the provided remote control. WebOS, the TV’s operating system, also supports Apple HomeKit, so you can use your phone to turn your TV on or off, or do the same thing with your voice using Siri either via your phone or a HomePod.

There’s also nVidia G-Sync built-in, letting the TV produce smoother frame rates from a PC, turning this into a proper screen for gamers. The TV can run at up to 120fps at a resolution of 4K.

All processing is handled by the α9 Gen 3 processor, which is able to perform some clever feats, such as setting the picture mode automatically by detecting what kind of content is on screen. Check out the LG TV 2020 guide for more information.

Watching HDR content on this display, I was impressed by the level of detail and clarity. Last year’s C9 won our Best TV of the Year award and it’s easy to see this year’s models maintaining the high review scores.

Next, I saw a game being played on the TV, running using G-Sync from a PC. Currently, Nvidia graphics cards support HDMI 2.0 only, so the footage runs at 120fps with a 4K resolution, but only a 4:2:0 colour encoding; when Nvidia supports HDMI 2.2, LG has told me that the TV can do 120fps at 4K using 4:4:4 for greater colour depth

The full judgement will come when the TV comes in for review but the first impression is that this TV has the right traits to be a winner. The smaller size opens up the quality of OLED to new people that don’t want a massive television, while the range of features and options show this to be a TV that can keep up with the high end, delivering the quality that those that want the best from games and films demand.

 

[Bamihap]

Why would a 48 inch be cheaper tho?
Higher pixel density
And less mass produced...

Yes it will be cheaper. They can cut more panels out of a single big sheet. So the costs go down.

 

[Psajdak]

But seriously, who still watches 480p content?

Me.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

So what GPU's do we have on the market that can push 8K 60? I thought we were still stuck at trying to hit 4K with a single GPU solution.

 

[Ulysses 31]

What? How? Bandwidth isn't there. Just give us one with displayport already

The bandwidth is there when using 8 bit color and chroma subsampling 4:2:0. I can use that setting on my Samsung QLED.

 

[dolabla]

Here's an actual picture of the LG 48" at CES and few comments.

LG OLED65CX OLED TV First Impressions [UPDATED]

Plenty to get excited about.

www.forbes.com

Some video footage from Vincent

 

[VGEsoterica]

Who’s going to be the target market for 8K? Certainly sounds like a bandwidth nightmare for streaming

 

[Nydus]

Hmm maybe if I wallmount the bugger it is far enough away to use as a monitor.

 

[Fbh]

Stadia users finally getting the TV to get the most out of their service!!!!!.


On topic though these seems nice though I'd have to see one as I think even with 4K we are entering the realm of diminishing returns

 

[Rest]

Do they make them in 65" though?
Don't want no short short tv.

.....ugh.
Cringe.
Won't say that again.

I have a 65" TV, it's such a pain in the ass to move. I won't be buying a giant TV again until rollup TVs are established on the market and reliable.