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Venturebeat - PlayStation won’t attend E3 2020, and that’s a mistake

CyberPanda

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PlayStation is not going to attend the Electronic Entertainment Expo in Los Angeles in June. I think that’s a bad idea. Sony Interactive Entertainment should go to E3 as part of the lead up to the PlayStation 5 launch this holiday.

To be clear, I don’t think Sony needs E3 to promote the PS5. The company could likely sleep its way to selling every next-gen console it makes for the first 24 months. It has enough diehard fans to easily do that even if the company doesn’t have a lot of big exclusives in the first year. But E3 is an opportunity. It’s a chance to show up and face off directly with its biggest competition and make it clear to everyone that it’s not just stumbling into the next generation.

But it’s more than that. Sony sowed the seeds of PlayStation 4’s success at E3 2013. Nearly seven years later, Sony is still cashing in on that performance. And it seems like a mistake not to try to do that again.

How PlayStation 4 built an empire at E3
Sony and Microsoft never had plans to do any first big reveals at E3 2020. Both likely intend to hold their own events in the next couple of months. That’s exactly what they did for PS4 and Xbox One, and the benefits for a dedicated media presentation are well understood at this point.

Xbox and PS5 can own an entire news cycle. They can lay out their argument for why everyone needs to upgrade without having to fight for headlines and attention.

So it makes sense for both companies to go that route again. And the obvious followup question is why do you need E3 if something like a PlayStation Meeting is so dominant? And I would urge you to look back at 2013 with the context of the entire current generation of consoles in mind.

The story of the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One were not written at their initial reveals. At the PlayStation Meeting 2013, PS4/PS5 architect Mark Cerny took the stage to talk about the hardware and Knack. At the Xbox One reveal, Microsoft said “television” and “sports” a lot. The only thing most people remember from those initial events is the Call of Duty dog.

Compare that to the E3 that happened just a couple of months later.

Microsoft revealed the Xbox One would launch for $500 with an included Kinect. Then, a few hours later, Sony announced PS4 would hit the same day for $400. Microsoft had plans to require players to check in online to play even physical discs. Then Xbox boss went on to tell reporters that if players want a console that works offline, they should get an Xbox 360. And then Sony threw a knockout punch when it quickly produced a last-minute video to show how easy it is to lend games on PS4 compared to Xbox One.



Microsoft soon retreated from all of its “always-online” plans, and today the Xbox One works exactly like a PlayStation 4. But Sony cemented its “for the players” reputation at that event.

It’s about the story
So what’s the difference between a siloed reveal event and E3? Well, people see the fromer as a commercial and the latter as something closer to a sporting event. Gaming fans want to see their favorite companies “win” E3. And winning is only possible because it seems like Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, and the rest are competing.

As humans, we are attracted to competitions because they tell very easy-to-understand story. And I don’t mean story in a “newsworthy” journalism sense — I mean it as in the tales we tell each other.

The PlayStation Meeting 2013 wasn’t memorable because it’s not one of those kinds of stories: “Sony announced a new console. It plays games better. The end.”

That doesn’t mean anything.

But because E3 has countering forces working against and challenging one another, those companies get a chance to shine: “Microsoft announced an always-online console that costs $500 and has a confusing used-games system. Sony undercut its competitor by charging $400 for a PS4 that works offline and enables players to share discs.”

That’s a story. People repeated it and believed it.

Sure, it’s possible that Sony could create similar narratives without E3. If it holds events near and around E3, maybe it will succeed at that without having to pay to show up to the actual venue. And the Entertainment Software Association, which organizes E3, doesn’t seem capable of making this case directly to Sony. But E3 is still the most certain way to accomplish the sort of brand storytelling that made the PS4 (at least in part) a sales juggernaut.

 
We'll laugh at these articles when PS5 is fully revealed and everyone and their grandmothers are talking about it

That's not the point. The article is stating how E3 was a critical foundation in PS4 asserting itself as the platform of the generation. By skipping E3 2020 at the very least they are missing the opportunity to do that this time around at E3 (and it's hard to say if they'll manage to do it at all regardless the event; both Microsoft and Nintendo are in much better shape this time around).

At the very least, it means one less event for Sony to promote PS5 at, and a pretty notable one too. That much can't be denied.
 

Kusarigama

Member
Their job is to write and they write. Most will witness it online so imo doesn't matter if they do it at e3 or around it or any other oppurtune time
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
if you cant afford to go to E3 then you probably shouldnt be in this business anyway.

even if they host a second conference during the summer, they wouldve lost out on a ton of coverage at e3. nintendo and ms would get free coverage with no competition from sony in the biggest week of the year.

as a sony fan and an even bigger fan of e3, im disappointed. but im almost glad that there is a chance this blows up in their face and costs them sales and console share.

of course, their competition has been phoning it in for close to a decade now. i cant remember when ms or nintendo had a great conference. im sure everyone will drop the ball and we will see another e3 like last year when no one, and i mean no one showed up with a gameplay demo.
 
Why do people keep thinking only at E3 you can go head to head or throw shots at each other? MS can have their conference at E3 and a few hours later SONY can even just post a YT video to throw blows at MS the same way they did at E3. They dont need to be physically there together to make magic happen.
 
even if they host a second conference during the summer, they wouldve lost out on a ton of coverage at e3. nintendo and ms would get free coverage with no competition from sony in the biggest week of the year.

Yeah because last year it really cost them sales and coverage right? They left it all to Nintendo and MS and what happened? Nothing. Sony posts a teaser trailer of 30 seconds and it has more views than what anything was announced at E3. If anything, it proved last year that E3 is a waste of time because consoles sell and brand recognition rises regardless.
 

Hobbygaming

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That's not the point. The article is stating how E3 was a critical foundation in PS4 asserting itself as the platform of the generation. By skipping E3 2020 at the very least they are missing the opportunity to do that this time around at E3 (and it's hard to say if they'll manage to do it at all regardless the event; both Microsoft and Nintendo are in much better shape this time around).

At the very least, it means one less event for Sony to promote PS5 at, and a pretty notable one too. That much can't be denied.
Sony could do their own event and get just as much hype as they would have at E3. When they show what they've been working on eyes will be all on them
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Yeah because last year it really cost them sales and coverage right? They left it all to Nintendo and MS and what happened? Nothing. Sony posts a teaser trailer of 30 seconds and it has more views than what anything was announced at E3. If anything, it proved last year that E3 is a waste of time because consoles sell and brand recognition rises regardless.
well, its too late for this gen. you would think at the start of the gen when everyone starts off with a clean slate, it will be a brand new ball game.

also, death stranding sales havent been all that great. 8 million views on that e3 trailer and it didnt even chart psn's top 20 for the month. in uk it did far worse than days gone which itself didnt light the charts on fire. sony has yet to reveal sales figures for it which doesnt bode well for it either.
 
E3 is irrelevant. They'll generate the same amount of hype with their own event if they decide to have it.
It also has a stronger brand recognition. The playstation brand is killing it it Europe, Japan, Asia and even USA. The xbox is pretty much non existent in other territories other then USA.
 

sinnergy

Member
I think it’s a mistake, for gathering to the hardcore which your first year buyers are. I think it’s a mistake to not meet people of the same work, colleagues, businesses to make deals.
But it’s their call.
 
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Deleted member 775630

Unconfirmed Member
To be on the same page as CyberPanda CyberPanda based on the past few days threads he posted :
it is not ok to skip e3 but it is amazing to have no exclusives for 2 years making series x another midgen upgrade like 1x. 😂priorities as a gamer is kinda lost I feel . But u do u 😜
Yeah poor XSX owners, with the "no exclusive" games that still look better than the exclusive PS5 games...
 
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Deleted member 775630

Unconfirmed Member
Brb. Using my imagination to compare them as none of them have shown any gameplay. Today u seem agitated and full on warrior from few of ur posts. So I m gonna have to say bye and put u on ignore.
I think you're confusing me with someone else, but no worries everyone makes mistakes.
 
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Deleted member 775630

Unconfirmed Member
When Sony shows their hand, it's going to make you Xbox fanboys pee your pants.
I'm not 100% sure yet if I'm buying the XSX to be honest. I'm waiting on both of their console presentations and then a solo game presentation of Sony and E3 of Microsoft. Based on that I'll make a decision. Last gen I was too quick to jump on Xbox One, while it was clear that during the whole generation, Sony had the better games.

My comment about XSX owner is more based on "leaks" where most leaks indicate that XSX might be more powerful than the PS5. Obviously like Agnostic2020 said, we don't really know since no one showed any games yet. But then again if no one has showed any games yet, why are people already saying that XSX games are going to be held back by the OneS, and PS5 games will be much better...
 
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redfirm

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That's not the point. The article is stating how E3 was a critical foundation in PS4 asserting itself as the platform of the generation. By skipping E3 2020 at the very least they are missing the opportunity to do that this time around at E3 (and it's hard to say if they'll manage to do it at all regardless the event; both Microsoft and Nintendo are in much better shape this time around).

At the very least, it means one less event for Sony to promote PS5 at, and a pretty notable one too. That much can't be denied.
it was not a critical foundation. the xbox converence at e3 during that time was, sony reacted with a youtube video that showed how the ps4 was consumer friendly, a lower price and a more powerful console. people need to get their facts straight. e3 wont do jack shit for Sony anymore.
 

Humdinger

Member
There's no real argument there, just "They should do it, because it worked well for them in 2013."

It's not 2013 anymore. The reason 2013 worked is because MS shot themselves in the foot, and they were able to capitalize. That's not going to happen this time. They also know that skipping E3 didn't hurt them last year, and attending previous conferences did not pay off.
 
Sony could do their own event and get just as much hype as they would have at E3. When they show what they've been working on eyes will be all on them

They already did their own events in the past and still went to E3 then, too. They just removed an option for fans.

it was not a critical foundation. the xbox converence at e3 during that time was, sony reacted with a youtube video that showed how the ps4 was consumer friendly, a lower price and a more powerful console. people need to get their facts straight. e3 wont do jack shit for Sony anymore.

Uh, yeah it was. It was (arguably still is) the most well-known gaming convention to the general mainstream. It's the one that carries the name recognition with them.

Also, them skipping means crews that'd normally be hired to set up are now without work. So to me so far, the move feels both anti-fan and anti-worker. FWIW I liked the PS Meeting in February 2013 a ton but it wasn't enough to justify skipping E3 at that time. The one next month'll have to be like 2-3 as good as 2013's was to make up for skipping E3 this year.

But can they do it? Guess we'll see.
 
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Hobbygaming

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Its only a text in red. You can write that normally and will still be only an opinion.
But,
Sony is not in E3 because it has nothing to show yet
I can't imagine any scenario where Sony doesn't have games to show yet. They'll have the games even if some won't be ready at launch
 

Hobbygaming

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They already did their own events in the past and still went to E3 then, too. They just removed an option for fans.



Uh, yeah it was. It was (arguably still is) the most well-known gaming convention to the general mainstream. It's the one that carries the name recognition with them.

Also, them skipping means crews that'd normally be hired to set up are now without work. So to me so far, the move feels both anti-fan and anti-worker. FWIW I liked the PS Meeting in February 2013 a ton but it wasn't enough to justify skipping E3 at that time. The one next month'll have to be like 2-3 as good as 2013's was to make up for skipping E3 this year.

But can they do it? Guess we'll see.
They could easily replace E3 with a conference showing a few good games and fans would still be satisfied
 

Bryank75

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I'd prefer a massive PlayStation Experience, could be any time of the year. It should alternate between East and West coast of America and Europe.

Stage show with orchestra intro every year!
 

Journey

Banned
PS4 built an empire at E3 based on Microsoft mistakes and they capitalized on that. Rumor has it that Sony was also considering DRM as this was a Publisher pushed agenda, but they just waited and watched Microsoft get burnt for it, then advocated the exact opposite after seeing how badly gamers were responding to the idea.

At E3 2020 it can either go really well for MS, or really bad, because the slightest slip or disappointment will be used to start negative mind share, so it's not all roses for MS. Sony knows this all too well and probably weighed their chances, maybe XSX is indeed more powerful or more capable than PS5, so not showing up replaces negativity with mystery.
 
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Bernkastel

Ask me about my fanboy energy!
I can't imagine any scenario where Sony doesn't have games to show yet. They'll have the games even if some won't be ready at launch
Think about it. What Sony first party will have a game ready next ? The only one that comes to my mind is Guerrilla Games and their next game is supposed to be multiplayer-focused. After that will be Insomniac around 2022. SSM and Naughty Dog will be around 2023 and Bend and Sucker Punch even later.
Whatever they have is not enough for a full E3 conference.
 
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Bryank75

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E3 2020 will be a disaster, this 'activation' thing and the plan to make it a celebrity and influencer event with advertising to queued visitors to the event.

Here is Jong explaining how the event will change.

 

Journey

Banned
E3 2020 will be a disaster, this 'activation' thing and the plan to make it a celebrity and influencer event with advertising to queued visitors to the event.

Here is Jong explaining how the event will change.




In a nutshell for those TLDW

He's sad to see E3 dwindle over the years, it used to be the Superbowl for videogames fans, but Sony not showing up last year and this year again, it just won't feel the same, he figures Sony wants more control over their advertisement, what happens at E3 is like an independant news channel vs Owning and controlling your own news and you get to filter it the way you want.... um way to go Sony? I mean that is the best way to heard your sheep I guess.
 

Gargus

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Who the fuck is venturebeat?

And sony did just fine when they skipped it last year. Sony could just surprise announce the ps5 on their blog and in 15 minutes the entire internet would be talking about it. They dont need e3, no one does not in this day and age of instant digital content that can be accesd by billions of people anywhere anytime.
 

Hobbygaming

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Think about it. What Sony first party will have a game ready next ? The only one that comes to my mind is Guerrilla Games and their next game is supposed to be multiplayer-focused. After that will be Insomniac around 2022. SSM and Naughty Dog will be around 2023 and Bend and Sucker Punch even later.
Whatever they have is not enough for a full E3 conference.
Spider-man 2
Gran Turismo 7
Demon Souls
Godfall
Ratchet and Clank
Horizon
Wild
These could all have vertical slices done by June this year
 
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Bernkastel

Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Spider-man 2
Gran Turismo 7
Demon Souls
Godfall
Ratchet and Clank
Horizon
Wild
These could all have vertical slices done by June this year
No fucking way is Spiderman 2 coming 2 years after the first one.
There are more rumours about GG's multiplayer focused game then Horizon 2, 80 GG staffs also worked on Death Stranding.
 

Pallas

Gold Member
I’m not sure why everyone is ok with this, I mean I know E3 seems to be less important but all of the major news outlets typically participate it to report what happens and it’s a good way to get your stuff broadcasted to the casual population. Last year the perception was that Sony just didn’t have anything worth showing, this can’t be the same reason again, right?
 

Gavon West

Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Sony could do their own event and get just as much hype as they would have at E3. When they show what they've been working on eyes will be all on them
This is sorta true. There will be some differences though: 1) this is E3. Not just "another " E3. But an E3 to speak about a brand new generation of hardware and experiences. Its a major tradition among the gaming community and one most people expect to hear and see what those experiences are. Where Presentation is paramount in order to set the tone for the rest of the generation. This is how Sony won the current gen as stated in the article. Because they had a competitor who shared their own story, but, as fait would have it, Sony had a better one and the gaming community endorsed their message loud and clear. How do they do that now?

2) Microsoft will be coming with guns blazing. The gaming public knows this without quarrel. Sony games will look spectacular (even if their console is underpowered..) but since Microsoft went and built their own armada of dev houses and will have the more powerful console next gen, Sony's first party will not go unchallenged this time around. If people are expecting Microsoft not to have titles that show the power of the Series X, you're dreaming. There will be heavy hitters from the games department for Team Green. There will be major GP announcements. And I'd wager an acquisition or two from Japan and probably UK.

E3 is about setting the tone for your brand and telling a story about how they're offering you something better than the other guy. With Sony not there, they miss out on that opportunity. Missing two E3's in a row with 2020 E3 all about a brand new gen doesn't have a good ring to it. I don't care what you say...
 

Gavon West

Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
it was not a critical foundation. the xbox converence at e3 during that time was, sony reacted with a youtube video that showed how the ps4 was consumer friendly, a lower price and a more powerful console. people need to get their facts straight. e3 wont do jack shit for Sony anymore.
That same youtube video was during Sony's E3. The exact same time as E3, thus, it was E3.
 
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