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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Nickolaidas

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I love @OsirisBlack contributions here.

Its all in fun with juicy info actually in there.

Thing is, imo, he puts a lot of thought in these riddles to make them very easy yet people way over analyze them.

It will all be over soon.

A little informal poll.

How upset will the natives be if we only get a State of Play showing the PS5 box with a few game demos here in Feb then a full reveal closer to E3?
Not upset at all.
 

Dabaus

Banned
If it’s
  1. related to Japan, and
  2. it‘s not an outright studio acquisition which @OsirisBlack hinted it was not above,
  3. and it’s not a money hat, but where something was purchased
...Microsoft acquiring the Konami video game IP makes the most sense because it doesn’t seem they are doing much with it and they have seem to be focused more on other things as a company.

Not sure how ”Killing it” relates thought. He also bolded the word “cross” some posts back which made me thing Castlevania but maybe I’m reading too much into this :messenger_grinning_sweat:

Sounds like Castlevania or dead rising to me. I say dead rising only because it does have a history with xbox and is now seemingly defunct. Its surprising to me sony and even nintneo are just letting microsoft corporate raid these Japanese studios without any obvious pushback.
 

ANIMAL1975

Member
I love @OsirisBlack contributions here.

Its all in fun with juicy info actually in there.

Thing is, imo, he puts a lot of thought in these riddles to make them very easy yet people way over analyze them.

It will all be over soon.

A little informal poll.

How upset will the natives be if we only get a State of Play showing the PS5 box with a few game demos here in Feb then a full reveal closer to E3?
 

McHuj

Member
I love @OsirisBlack contributions here.

Its all in fun with juicy info actually in there.

Thing is, imo, he puts a lot of thought in these riddles to make them very easy yet people way over analyze them.

It will all be over soon.

A little informal poll.

How upset will the natives be if we only get a State of Play showing the PS5 box with a few game demos here in Feb then a full reveal closer to E3?

I will be annoyed. I want the specs. I can wait on the box and price.
 

GameSeeker

Member
I love @OsirisBlack contributions here.

Its all in fun with juicy info actually in there.

Thing is, imo, he puts a lot of thought in these riddles to make them very easy yet people way over analyze them.

It will all be over soon.

A little informal poll.

How upset will the natives be if we only get a State of Play showing the PS5 box with a few game demos here in Feb then a full reveal closer to E3?

I think as long as we get technical specs, that will help tides folks over till May/June. If all Sony does is show a box design and a few demo's, they won't have accomplished much.
 
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Soadi

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I love @OsirisBlack contributions here.

Its all in fun with juicy info actually in there.

Thing is, imo, he puts a lot of thought in these riddles to make them very easy yet people way over analyze them.

It will all be over soon.

A little informal poll.

How upset will the natives be if we only get a State of Play showing the PS5 box with a few game demos here in Feb then a full reveal closer to E3?
HELL NO.
 

xool

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I think as long as we get technical specs, that will help tides folks over till May/June. If all Sony does is show a box design and a few demo's, they won't have accomplished much.
Stuff actually running on a PS5 will/would tell as much as any spec sheet, and fuel a thousands armchair anaylsts for a thousand years
 
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joe_zazen

Member
I love @OsirisBlack contributions here.

Its all in fun with juicy info actually in there.

Thing is, imo, he puts a lot of thought in these riddles to make them very easy yet people way over analyze them.

It will all be over soon.

A little informal poll.

How upset will the natives be if we only get a State of Play showing the PS5 box with a few game demos here in Feb then a full reveal closer to E3?

depends 100% on content.

if they have some legitimate bombs like gtavi or driveclub2, and specs i’ll preorder. If it is just uhd versions of tlou2/spiderman/gow + ps4 type launch games, and no specs...I’ll continue to think sony is fail for next gen.

ps, are you Sid Shuman?
 

nowhat

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driveclub2
Sony (probably?) owns the IP, but I'd find a sequel very unlikely, at least any time soon. I mean, Driveclub turned out ok, in the end - but it was supposed to be a launch title for PS4, was delayed a full year, released to much ridicule (an online racer where the online barely works isn't exactly ideal) and the free PS+ version (that was seriously gimped) arrived over six months after that. It was quite a PR disaster, I doubt Sony is willing to take another hit at least at launch.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Taken from Reee.


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wait a second. why is the xbox APU bigger AND clocked higher?
why would sony settle for a smaller APU than the PS4 apu?

Ive found it bizarre that so many people are putting their faith in the random chinese forum leak. A leak that we only know about because komachi gave his blessing. and we know Komachi was the first guy to get the github leaks so when he saw that oberon 300mm2 number, he latched on to it and spread it. We know its not accurate now that the xbox silicon is over 400mm2 and the chinese leaker had arden at 350mm2.

so while i understand predicting a 400mm2 APU for the xbox, i fail to see why the PS5 has to be smaller. Like, why is that only MS can afford a bigger APU? why is it that only MS can afford a better cooling solution? why are we ignoring every other non github rumor out there that says the PS5 is more powerful than the xbox?

i will say it again, i think both consoles are using the same exact gpu with maybe a CU or two difference. if the xbox is 400mm2 then my predictions of consoles going wide and slow was true. its what they always do. 64 CU at 1.475 ghz might be the best you could do in a console form factor. thats 31% faster than the x1x clocks at 16nm which is roughly what amd promised for 7nm,

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Sure, the sweet spot might be higher for desktop parts, but we have always seen consoles go with conservative clocks and for mid gen refreshes bigger GPUs than AMD's 480 and 580 cards. i wouldnt be surprised if sony comes around 400mm2 or even bigger seeing as how they are supposedly more powerful.
 

joe_zazen

Member
Yeah, why not? Node size has nothing to do with die size. The same 64-core threadripper at 7nm in a monolithic die would probably cost over $10k+ due to the amount of failures. Those failed chips could be binned and sold as 60-core, 58-core, 54-core processors etc., but they'd just end up being Intel in that case.

lol, yeah.

I guess the way to phrase it is it allows for more powerful, commercially viable products. Howerver, theoretically, if they made a maximum sized chip (ignoring cost, 1 chip per die), they could use chiplet design to make even more powerful unit.
 
I love @OsirisBlack contributions here.

Its all in fun with juicy info actually in there.

Thing is, imo, he puts a lot of thought in these riddles to make them very easy yet people way over analyze them.

It will all be over soon.

A little informal poll.

How upset will the natives be if we only get a State of Play showing the PS5 box with a few game demos here in Feb then a full reveal closer to E3?
At this point i will take anything with a smile. Just give us some fucking PS5 news, bruh
 
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MilkyJoe

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wait a second. why is the xbox APU bigger AND clocked higher?
why would sony settle for a smaller APU than the PS4 apu?

Ive found it bizarre that so many people are putting their faith in the random chinese forum leak. A leak that we only know about because komachi gave his blessing. and we know Komachi was the first guy to get the github leaks so when he saw that oberon 300mm2 number, he latched on to it and spread it. We know its not accurate now that the xbox silicon is over 400mm2 and the chinese leaker had arden at 350mm2.

so while i understand predicting a 400mm2 APU for the xbox, i fail to see why the PS5 has to be smaller. Like, why is that only MS can afford a bigger APU? why is it that only MS can afford a better cooling solution? why are we ignoring every other non github rumor out there that says the PS5 is more powerful than the xbox?

i will say it again, i think both consoles are using the same exact gpu with maybe a CU or two difference. if the xbox is 400mm2 then my predictions of consoles going wide and slow was true. its what they always do. 64 CU at 1.475 ghz might be the best you could do in a console form factor. thats 31% faster than the x1x clocks at 16nm which is roughly what amd promised for 7nm,

DGX5TZXi7h13jyrBAPRWdV94VYOyacge_HJUVKMkSxA.jpg


amd-7nm-gpu-efficiency-2-1024x527.jpg


Sure, the sweet spot might be higher for desktop parts, but we have always seen consoles go with conservative clocks and for mid gen refreshes bigger GPUs than AMD's 480 and 580 cards. i wouldnt be surprised if sony comes around 400mm2 or even bigger seeing as how they are supposedly more powerful.

In 2013 people put faith in some redneck from Australia and he turned out to be 100% right...
 

Lone Wolf

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I love @OsirisBlack contributions here.

Its all in fun with juicy info actually in there.

Thing is, imo, he puts a lot of thought in these riddles to make them very easy yet people way over analyze them.

It will all be over soon.

A little informal poll.

How upset will the natives be if we only get a State of Play showing the PS5 box with a few game demos here in Feb then a full reveal closer to E3?
At this point I’m expecting great consoles from both MS and Sony, so what I really want to see is the games. I’m sure we have lots of new stuff coming and that will determine what system I get first. I don’t play on PC so whatever goes to PC means shit to me. So I’ll be upset unless we get lots of game reveals, which is probably not realistic till mid year.
 

Thedtrain

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I love @OsirisBlack contributions here.

Its all in fun with juicy info actually in there.

Thing is, imo, he puts a lot of thought in these riddles to make them very easy yet people way over analyze them.

It will all be over soon.

A little informal poll.

How upset will the natives be if we only get a State of Play showing the PS5 box with a few game demos here in Feb then a full reveal closer to E3?
My first thought was: pretty upset

Thinking about it more... I kind of like the slow drip of info. We all love the dopamine reward loop of refreshing for new leaks. Might be smart of Sony to play it that way
 

GameSeeker

Member
Stuff actually running on a PS5 will/would tell as much as any spec sheet, and fuel a thousands armchair anaylsts for a thousand years

Tech demo's and game trailers tell you very little. You can fake anything with good editing and post production in a game trailer. Unless you get 15 minutes or more of actual uncut gameplay, you don't know anything.
 

Ellery

Member
Whatever this consoles turn to be in the end, I'm having a terrific time reading this thread.

Just like when we all discused about the Nintendo NX back then. Great times.

Yup me2. So many rumors and people believing the Nintendo Switch would be more powerful than the PS4 but in the end the Nintendo Switch had less than half the PS4 performance even when docked.
Now we have 16TFLOPs 32GB 2TTB SSD FULL BC console rumors and I wonder how those are going to turn out ... :pie_zipper:
 

ANIMAL1975

Member
Oh, Castlevania and Konami then?
Osiris already confirmed is only the IP i think:

Maybe a bit of both IP definitely used to be third party.
not a money hat if you own it.
Funny thing is and I won’t quote anyone in particular I already posted this same thing a few days ago when I first heard about it. Now it’s just official. Thanks Phil. Also you’re absolutely right if an entire studio had been purchased you would have heard about it by now.
 

joe_zazen

Member
Sony (probably?) owns the IP, but I'd find a sequel very unlikely, at least any time soon. I mean, Driveclub turned out ok, in the end - but it was supposed to be a launch title for PS4, was delayed a full year, released to much ridicule (an online racer where the online barely works isn't exactly ideal) and the free PS+ version (that was seriously gimped) arrived over six months after that. It was quite a PR disaster, I doubt Sony is willing to take another hit at least at launch.

yeah, DC2 is as likely as Mod Nation Racers 2. Still, i loved that game and if there is a 2, ps5 + new wheel is day one for me.

Is foza horizon a suitable replacement? Or is it filled with faux social media rpg shit and annoying voice work like the crew 2?
 

Thedtrain

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No I leave tht to you and your lot tht defended Crackdown 3 and Sea of trash 😂😂

Haters are everwhere green with envy 👀🤦‍♂️ I see the rehlgular schill force liking your comment 👀👀😊🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️
Was gonna make a comment on the “like squad” that somehow always appears 30 seconds after it’s posted by one of them
 

Gediminas

Banned
It is that vibe I'm liking about MS they are more like actual gamers and not boring ass suits.
looks like a gamer, speaks like a suit. Sony people are opposite, looks like professionals and speaks like a gamers, no corporate PR and bbulshite like Spencer, greenberg and co spreading all the time.
but it is on you own.
 

CyberPanda

Banned
looks like a gamer, speaks like a suit. Sony people are opposite, looks like professionals and speaks like a gamers, no corporate PR and bbulshite like Spencer, greenberg and co spreading all the time.
but it is on you own.
They are all corporate ass hats. None of these corporations give two shits about any of us and only care about what’s in our wallets.
 

Darklor01

Might need to stop sniffing glue
Not upset at all.

Some will be happy for about two minutes before clamoring for more details, specs, and dates for future events.
Others will start FUD because without specs, it must be that Sony’s system is weaker than MS’s.
I’ll be upset because the narrative will continue to spin out negatively I. War like fashion from there as a direct result.
 

FranXico

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Some will be happy for about two minutes before clamoring for more details, specs, and dates for future events.
Others will start FUD because without specs, it must be that Sony’s system is weaker than MS’s.
I’ll be upset because the narrative will continue to spin out negatively I. War like fashion from there as a direct result.
Do you really think it matters what Sony announces? The outcome will always be war and negative spin.
 

Gamernyc78

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I love @OsirisBlack contributions here.

Its all in fun with juicy info actually in there.

Thing is, imo, he puts a lot of thought in these riddles to make them very easy yet people way over analyze them.

It will all be over soon.

A little informal poll.

How upset will the natives be if we only get a State of Play showing the PS5 box with a few game demos here in Feb then a full reveal closer to E3?

Upset? I wouldn't be, just annoyed, ppl want tangible specs or barometers, however if thy show some next Gen, first party goodies I'd be happy with tht and placated.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
Where did the FromSoftware to MS rumor come from earlier this morning, late yesterday?

That would be awful for all of gaming. From games should be enjoyed by everybody.
if MS buys them you can play them on pc.

with sony now hiring pc programmers and putting games on pc, it doesnt really matter what game you want, virtually everything will be on pc. just save up and get a pc. it will pay for itself because you wont have to waste $60-120 a year on ps+ and xbl subs.
 

joe_zazen

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They are all corporate ass hats. None of these corporations give two shits about any of us and only care about what’s in our wallets.


all executives at giant corporations are workaholics motivated by an insatiable desire to succeed at any cost; and the super successful ones are almost always psychopaths.

So yeah, gamer Phil is not your friend. He wont help you move, and no you cannot stay on his couch while they repaint your bedroom.
 

CyberPanda

Banned
all executives at giant corporations are workaholics motivated by an insatiable desire to succeed at any cost; and the super successful ones are almost always psychopaths.

So yeah, gamer Phil is not your friend. He wont help you move, and no you cannot stay on his couch while they repaint your bedroom.
Yea the 1% are crazy.
 
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