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5600XT, a card faster than 2060/1080 for $279 (with better power consumption)

llien

llien

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And, as a bonus, it comes with superior cooling (Sapphire Pulse):

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Sapphire Radeon RX 5600 XT Pulse Review

Sapphire's RX 5600 XT Pulse comes at $289, which is only a small $10 premium over the AMD MSRP, yet it's faster than the GeForce RTX 2060. The card's cooler does a great job and delivers good temperatures paired with amazing noise levels, and it has fan-stop, too.
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Written reviews:

AnandTech:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15422/the-amd-radeon-rx-5600-xt-review

Guru3D:

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/sapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-5600-xt-6g-review,1.html

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5600-xt-gaming-oc-review,1.html

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/asus-strix-radeon-rx-5600-xt-review,1.html

Hexus:

https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/138764-sapphire-radeon-rx-5600-xt-pulse-oc/

KitGuru:

https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/dominic-moass/sapphire-rx-5600-xt-pulse-review/

Overclock3D:

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/sapphire_rx_5600xt_pulse_review/1

PCGamesN:

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/radeon-rx-5600-xt-review-benchmarks-performance

PCWorld:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3514693/sapphire-pulse-amd-radeon-rx-5600-xt-review.html

PCPerspective:

https://pcper.com/2020/01/amd-radeon-rx-5600-xt-review/

Overclockers:

https://www.overclockers.com/amd-radeon-rx-5600-xt-review-ultimate-1080p-gaming/

TechPowerUp:

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-5600-xt-strix-oc/

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-5600-xt-pulse/

theFPSreview:

https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/01/21/xfx-radeon-rx-5600-xt-thicc-ii-pro-review/

ThinkComputers:

https://thinkcomputers.org/msi-radeon-rx-5600-xt-gaming-x-graphics-card-review/

Tom's Hardware:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx_5600_xt

VIDEO Reviews:

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Paul's Hardware:



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kingbean

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GHG said:
They've pretty much cannibalised the 5700 (non XT) with this card...

I don't get it.
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I read they were gonna stop producing the 5700.

The 5700 is still a better value at 300 because you can OC the shit out of it. I've got my coworkers running at 2Ghz with a simple wattman edit.
 
crumbs

crumbs

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So AMD was going to gimp this card to avoid competing with the 5700, but the 2060 price drop forced them release a new vBIOS to compete with the $300 2060? So we can thank Jensen of the extra `10% performance? :messenger_grinning:
 
nkarafo

nkarafo

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I'm still afraid to buy an AMD card because of the crappy OpenGL support and that means a lot of problems with emulators.
 
iorek21

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So, new gen coming soon, I'll probably build a new PC in the next 2-3 years; I've always used Nvidia, but it's getting too expensive lately, is AMD a really good option performance wise?

I mean, I don't really care about 10% less power or yadda yadda, AMD prices make it worth it, but... does these GPUs stand up against Nvidia's high end line?
 
GHG

GHG

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kingbean said:
I read they were gonna stop producing the 5700.

The 5700 is still a better value at 300 because you can OC the shit out of it. I've got my coworkers running at 2Ghz with a simple wattman edit.
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llien said:
More (and faster) RAM, with possibility to BIOS flash to XT variant.
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True. I doubt most people who buy these cards are willing to do so in order to gamble on a flash/OC though.

If you're looking at the 5700 you're better off stepping up to the XT, and now if you can't afford that then you'd be better off stepping down and getting this card to save a bit of cash.
 
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alabtrosMyster

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OnThePathToWisdom said:
6GB though. Seems everyone's ignoring that at the moment. 8 GB should be the minimum these days.
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I get what you are trying to say, but given that these games will likely run games at 1080p or 1440p and before anything else they will need to drop details levels to keep a decent performance level anyway... which will reduce RAM requirements also.

Would I prefer 8 over 6? sure, I would also prefer 12 or 16...
 
Dr.D00p

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FFS the GPU market is so fucking boring right now, seems like all we've had for the last year is a never ending supply of low-mid end budget samey,samey releases.
 
JohnnyFootball

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
nkarafo said:
I'm still afraid to buy an AMD card because of the crappy OpenGL support and that means a lot of problems with emulators.
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I am not an expert on the emulator scene, but my understanding is that Cemu is currently the most demanding emulator and it has excellent Vulkan support which makes it the de facto API to use.
 
JohnnyFootball

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
GHG said:
True. I doubt most people who buy these cards are willing to do so in order to gamble on a flash/OC though.

If you're looking at the 5700 you're better off stepping up to the XT, and now if you can't afford that then you'd be better off stepping down and getting this card to save a bit of cash.
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AMD should now just discontinue the 5700 and move the 5700XT into that price bracket.
 
PhoenixTank

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JohnnyFootball said:
I am not an expert on the emulator scene, but my understanding is that Cemu is currently the most demanding emulator and it has excellent Vulkan support which makes it the de facto API to use.
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Yeap. Vulkan is a recent addition to cemu, and has been in Dolphin for quite some time. Yuzu has it too now, albeit early days. For non-nintendo gear, RPCS3 has it. PCSX2 is getting Vulkan support in the future. I'm unsure what the state of ePSXe is, but I seem to remember it relying a lot on individual OpenGL plugins. Unlikely to be updated.
This ignores Retroarch and the many libretro cores too.
Shouldn't be a huge concern?
 
Spukc

Spukc

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PhoenixTank said:
Yeap. Vulkan is a recent addition to cemu, and has been in Dolphin for quite some time. Yuzu has it too now, albeit early days. For non-nintendo gear, RPCS3 has it. PCSX2 is getting Vulkan support in the future. I'm unsure what the state of ePSXe is, but I seem to remember it relying a lot on individual OpenGL plugins. Unlikely to be updated.
This ignores Retroarch and the many libretro cores too.
Shouldn't be a huge concern?
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yes ofc it always was a huge concern nothing new about this honestly
 
CJY

CJY

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I think Nvidia are going to be rocked this year, and by 2012/22 AMD will be firmly in the lead in consumer graphics cards in terms of overall efficiency and price/performance. I think consumer mindset will start to seriously change in AMD's favour in mid-2021.

All speculation of course, but I see Nvidia as being similar to Intel in that they both need to maintain margins of 65%+ as a baseline. This is from years of operational inefficiency, their organisations would simply fail to continue operating as they to today if they don't charge this much.

We'll see what happens, but I have my money on Lisa Su. She's an absolute boss.
 
thelastword

thelastword

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A huge OC through Vbios, better price, performance, better temps and noise over the 2060...…...I was expecting the 5600XT to destroy the 1660Ti, not only does it do that, but it's the stronger and better card over the 2060 vanilla and KO Edition...….

As for those saying this cannibalizes the 5700, the 5700 is still 6-10% faster on average and can go up to 22% faster in certain titles over the 5600XT, it has 2GB more Vram, so the 5700 is a better buy for 1440P resolutions......At $320 it's a great deal as well, especially if you flash the bios to 5700XT levels...….So there's much more leg room for a 1440p gamer with the 5700 card...

Overall AMD has killed it with this card, so much performance was left on this card over Stock Bios...….This card even beats the 2060 Super in some games...….RDNA 2.0 is going to be faster than the road runner by the looks of RDNA 1...….>Remember folks, this 5600XT only has 36 CU's on RDNA 1.0...…..An 80 CU card with another 21% IPC improvement and higher clocks and rops will be insane on RDNA 2...…...

As for now, the 5600XT is the best card in the sub $300 price range, just as the 5700XT is the best value product in the $400-500 price range.....
 
The Mad Draklor

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CJY said:
I think Nvidia are going to be rocked this year, and by 2012/22 AMD will be firmly in the lead in consumer graphics cards in terms of overall efficiency and price/performance. I think consumer mindset will start to seriously change in AMD's favour in mid-2021.

All speculation of course, but I see Nvidia as being similar to Intel in that they both need to maintain margins of 65%+ as a baseline. This is from years of operational inefficiency, their organisations would simply fail to continue operating as they to today if they don't charge this much.

We'll see what happens, but I have my money on Lisa Su. She's an absolute boss.
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Nvidia is competent enough to not be too, too complacent which is good in terms of competition. AMD and Nvidia will push each other which we will benefit from.

Intel, on the other hand... woof.
 
llien

llien

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The Mad Draklor said:
Nvidia is competent enough to not be too, too complacent which is good in terms of competition
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How did that work with adaptive sync?
Or how serious are they about RT, rolling out 16xx cards?

One should note, however, that NV wasn't even remotely as dominant in terms of market share, as was (and still is) Intel.

Guynamedbilly said:
Would this mostly be a sidegrade from a 980ti?
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It's faster than 1080, which is 1.3 times faster than stock 980Ti according to TPU. However, 980Ti's were greate OCers, take that aspect into account.

GreatnessRD said:
I'm still afraid because of their drivers. I wanted an 5700XT, but noooo sir! lol
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NV shills succeeded stirring up new series of FUD, one must note.
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G531GV NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 not working after re-installing Windows 10

Hello guys, Hope you are doing well. I have landed into a bizarre situation and need your expertise to get it resolved. I re-installed Windows 10 (home) in my ROG Scar III G531GV. After that I installed all the drivers and BIOS upgrade from ASUS download center. Now my GPU is not working. I...
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Or people downgrading nvidia drivers because they've "heard" it fixes, wait for it, "crash issue in Apex Legends":

Or not even being able to install drivers:

Or, "black bar flickering":

Or, wait, perhaps that's enough for a very first result on google?


Manus Manus did Lisa Su mention when AMD is going to fix drivers for 2060?
 
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GreatnessRD

GreatnessRD

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llien said:
How did that work with adaptive sync?
Or how serious are they about RT, rolling out 16xx cards?

One should note, however, that NV wasn't even remotely as dominant in terms of market share, as was (and still is) Intel.


It's faster than 1080, which is 1.3 times faster than stock 980Ti according to TPU. However, 980Ti's were greate OCers, take that aspect into account.


NV shills succeeded stirring up new series of FUD, one must note.
rog.asus.com

G531GV NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 not working after re-installing Windows 10

Hello guys, Hope you are doing well. I have landed into a bizarre situation and need your expertise to get it resolved. I re-installed Windows 10 (home) in my ROG Scar III G531GV. After that I installed all the drivers and BIOS upgrade from ASUS download center. Now my GPU is not working. I...
rog.asus.com rog.asus.com

Or people downgrading nvidia drivers because they've "heard" it fixes, wait for it, "crash issue in Apex Legends":

Or not even being able to install drivers:

Or, "black bar flickering":

Or, wait, perhaps that's enough for a very first result on google?


Manus Manus did Lisa Su mention when AMD is going to fix drivers for 2060?
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I'm sure fanboys talked it up, but again, YouTubers like GN talked up the driver issues. I've seen a ton of folks who own the card show their problems. And both card companies are gonna have their share of bad drivers, but you're being unrealistic if you don't see A LOT more people are talking about the AMD drivers. I currently have an nVidia card, but was willing to convert, but I've seen way too many problems at current state. Hopefully later this year I'll see more stability. I see so many torubleshooting threads on LTT that it isn't even funny.
 
Reallink

Reallink

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This is like the shittiest accomplishment ever, on both sides. I paid $419 for a 1080 like 3 ago. What a shit show that the market has lost 2GB of VRAM and saved about $100 for the same level of performance in that amount of time.
 
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b0uncyfr0

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I for one am glad AMD is back in the game - I'm team agnostic. I couldn't care less about either of them ( but i like AMD more ). Whoever gives me the most performance for my money wins.
 
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GreatnessRD

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llien said:
You don't have a card about which you spread the "driver issues" FUD.
Motivation doesn't matter.
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Yes, because reviews do matter. I'm sure someone has told you something about a product or anything you didn't own and you then decided what to do next. And if I've seen it with my own eyes, doesn't mean I need to own just to say "Yes, I bought a card and got the same issues I've read and seen about!" Sure, I might've been one of the fortunate ones who didn't get problems, but that wasn't a chance or headache I was willing to take personally. Don't let your AMD loyalty get in the way of reason. Especially if they don't make you any money. Same if you were an nVidia fan.

b0uncyfr0 said:
I for one am glad AMD is back in the game - I'm team agnostic. I couldn't care less about either of them ( but i like AMD more ). Whoever gives me the most performance for my money wins.
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Yeah, I don't understand this brand loyalty. It's so goofy to me. Like, I have an AMD CPU (R5 2600) and a nVidia GPU (1060) in my system. I go were the price and performance is. People are nuts.
 
BigBooper

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It's all anecdotal of course, but I've got a Ryzen 7 laptop that I've had a bunch of weird graphical problems where my 980ti has never had any driver problems. My parents have an amd gpu in their media center pc and have had weird problems with sound over hdmi. My arcade pc uses a 750ti that I've never had a problem with. My 9800pro had weird problems too.

The vast majority of the gpu problems I've had have all been amd. I would still have made the same purchases though because of cost and features, but no one will convince me that nvidia has as many driver problems as amd.
 
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GreatnessRD

GreatnessRD

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llien said:
There is literally one review talking about "driver issues" isn't it?
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No, no it isn't. It's quite a few if you do a quick search. Again, don't know what blinders you have on, but we'll just leave it where it is. Thankfully, the AMD 5700XT is working for you and I hope it continues. I'm personally going to wait for the Ampere reveal and AMD's counter to it before I make my final judgement on what I'm going to upgrade to. So I got until later this year.
 
GreatnessRD

GreatnessRD

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llien said:
Bullshit.


I haven't spotted people in this thread who care about your buying habits`, but once I find them, I'll definitely tell them.
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I see you're talking out of your ass. Like I said, we're done here. And nobody in this thread have to care about my opinion or buying habits. I said what I said because I can. And expressing my opinion on a forum. So you can keep the goofiness to yourself. Have a nice day.
 
thelastword

thelastword

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I see very few comparisons with the 1660Ti from the press, the 1660ti is a $279 card and those limited 2060 KO's and vanilla 2060's are hardly available since they were being phased out....at one point...
 
T

themoose5

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iorek21 said:
So, new gen coming soon, I'll probably build a new PC in the next 2-3 years; I've always used Nvidia, but it's getting too expensive lately, is AMD a really good option performance wise?

I mean, I don't really care about 10% less power or yadda yadda, AMD prices make it worth it, but... does these GPUs stand up against Nvidia's high end line?
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These GPUs won't stand up against Nvidia's high end line. That is an area of the GPU market that Nvidia has had control over for a while. AMD seems to try to compete at the mid-level and against comparable cards they stand up very well. But if you're looking to compare this against the 2080/2080 super/2080 ti they won't stand up.
 
llien

llien

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GreatnessRD said:
I see you're talking out of your ass. Like I said, we're done here. And nobody in this thread have to care about my opinion or buying habits. I said what I said because I can. And expressing my opinion on a forum. So you can keep the goofiness to yourself. Have a nice day.
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You said lies, got called out for it and found no better way out then doubling down.
It should be fairly easy to name legit review sites complaining about driver issues, had your statement been true.
 
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