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[wipeout364]

I don't understand why they felt the need to rush this out when they obviously weren't ready, they should have just done a limited Beta indefinitely till they had a decent product. If they are playing the long game they still can turn it around overtime but google seems like the kind of company that loses interest quickly if they aren't winning.

 

[Nero_PR]

As someone who they have called 'a member of the team', receiving updates and invites for being an early Stadia adopter, and in some ways a tester, the last week has been nothing more than disgusting. Many features we were promised have been cancelled outright, and it seems Google has decided to trash their old roadmap. The last straw for me was broken within the last few days, when I played several of the upcoming 120 games, 10 being exclusives, and realized some of the previews we were shown months ago were not only BS but some of the titles shown previously don't even seem to be in development anymore and weren't even mentioned. The few playable game trials I got to play won't even come out until the end of this year or don't even have release dates. The average consumer who brought Stadia waiting for something good, I hate to tell you this but no change is coming in the near future. You may as well call most of the 120 games shovelware as I highly doubt many of them will be any more playable when the full versions release. You'll understand for yourself once we get closer to their release dates.

I was led to believe that things would turn around this year based on everything that was promised last year, turns out I was VERY mistaken as Google has decided to scrap or indefinitely delay nearly every game or feature promised from before. It doesn't help that they have not improved the infrastructure by any capacity, and the promised updates to improve streaming and input lag are now delayed indefinitely as the schedule for updates is unknown to anyone outside Google. I guess that means they will update things whenever they feel like it, if they ever update anything at all.

For those of you who are interested in buying Stadia, I cannot recommend it. After the first few hours of novelty you will realize that support is and will continue to be abysmal, and you won't be receiving a steady stream of quality releases. Several fixes that were said to come have been delayed indefinitely, and the few that will release won't come into play until the end of the year. Google won't give any dates so if you buy Stadia you'll be going in blind with no hint as to what will change going forward.

If you REALLY want streaming there are better options, PSNOW is getting better and XCLOUD will have a public release soon.

I liked to make fun of the service and how you promoted it. But I can see that you really believed in it and was enthusiastic about what a company of the size of Google could do. If it wasn't Google to achieve it, who would be or have enough resources to make it happen? I just didn't jump on the Stadia idea from the beginning because I never really believed in Phil Harrison's empty promises. Remember what he promised of Playstation Home? I remember, but the moment he saw the project failing, he just jumped out of the ship and left whoever was there to command it. The second reason I didn't give credit for Stadia was the fact that Google is well known to kill the projects that didn't meet their expectations really fast.

I feel bad for you my friend. Google could have it right from the get-go if they wanted it to succeed that bad, but it has been proven that Stadia is not really important to them in the long run. I hope XCLOUD and PSNOW turn on what streaming for gaming should be.

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

 

[NickFire]

Always admirable when someone admits they were wrong by their own choice. Well done OP, and no worries. We all get excited for something we regret later. I'm still pissed I bought the Division 2.

 

[bitbydeath]

 

[Halo is Back]

You would think out of all companies Google would have the capitol and manpower to release a good product with a wide variety of features, but alas this is the age of release it now and fix it later.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

You would think out of all companies Google would have the capitol and manpower to release a good product with a wide variety of features, but alas this is the age of release it now and fix it later.

Talent > Money

That's the magic of any entertainment industry. You can't simply cram cash into the artist and wield the best technology to automatically always produce the "best" works.

 

[Bryank75]

As someone who they have called 'a member of the team', receiving updates and invites for being an early Stadia adopter, and in some ways a tester, the last week has been nothing more than disgusting. Many features we were promised have been cancelled outright, and it seems Google has decided to trash their old roadmap. The last straw for me was broken within the last few days, when I played several of the upcoming 120 games, 10 being exclusives, and realized some of the previews we were shown months ago were not only BS but some of the titles shown previously don't even seem to be in development anymore and weren't even mentioned. The few playable game trials I got to play won't even come out until the end of this year or don't even have release dates. The average consumer who brought Stadia waiting for something good, I hate to tell you this but no change is coming in the near future. You may as well call most of the 120 games shovelware as I highly doubt many of them will be any more playable when the full versions release. You'll understand for yourself once we get closer to their release dates.

I was led to believe that things would turn around this year based on everything that was promised last year, turns out I was VERY mistaken as Google has decided to scrap or indefinitely delay nearly every game or feature promised from before. It doesn't help that they have not improved the infrastructure by any capacity, and the promised updates to improve streaming and input lag are now delayed indefinitely as the schedule for updates is unknown to anyone outside Google. I guess that means they will update things whenever they feel like it, if they ever update anything at all.

For those of you who are interested in buying Stadia, I cannot recommend it. After the first few hours of novelty you will realize that support is and will continue to be abysmal, and you won't be receiving a steady stream of quality releases. Several fixes that were said to come have been delayed indefinitely, and the few that will release won't come into play until the end of the year. Google won't give any dates so if you buy Stadia you'll be going in blind with no hint as to what will change going forward.

If you REALLY want streaming there are better options, PSNOW is getting better and XCLOUD will have a public release soon.

Sorry about how things went. I really don't believe in streaming tech at all...
But I do want gamers to be happy in general. Hope you are good otherwise!

 

[MoreJRPG]

You would think out of all companies Google would have the capitol and manpower to release a good product with a wide variety of features, but alas this is the age of release it now and fix it later.

Google is nortorious for launched half-baked products and killing them off within a few years. Stadia shouldn’t be a surprised to anyone. They feel as though they don’t have to work for success and that their name should sell it.

 

[DESTROYA]

Good for you V Voost Kain , you stopped drinking the google koolaid .

 

[Mista]

I have nothing against Stadia because first I wasn't interested as its something not for me and second I knew that it'll never succeed

Some people made it sound like its "the future" where in reality its very far from it and it will never be the future as long as theres data cap

A man that admits when he's wrong is a man that always deserves to be respected to me.

 

[TLZ]

Stadia lost its only Stan.

 

[Deleted member 740922]

All very noble and all that OP but it's a shame you regularly post inflammatory stuff and then completely vanish from the thread.

 

[Heebie Jeebies]

Now this is what a redemption arc looks like, Disney.

 

[Iorv3th]

I wonder how long before they scrap it entirely.

 

[Halo is Back]

Talent > Money

That's the magic of any entertainment industry. You can't simply cram cash into the artist and wield the best technology to automatically always produce the "best" works.

No but you CAN buy out the best talent

 

[Phase]

I wonder how long before they scrap it entirely.

With XCloud gaining more and more momentum they may not have a choice.

 

[Halo is Back]

I wonder how long before they scrap it entirely.

I give it 2 years

 

[V4skunk]

While I believe that streaming will never be a primary method of mainstream gaming for me, I am willing to give Xcloud a chance when it's ready

Stadia was DOA, though. Plain and simple

Streaming is not the future.
Dedicated hardware cannot be replaced by streaming.

 

[DonF]

Credibility +1
Good on you Op!

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

This is a trick, isn't it?

 

[spawn]

I will never adopt streaming. Not PSnow. Not Xcloud. Not Stadia

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Phil Harrison should never be hired again. He seems to be around when game companies make their worst decisions.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I don't understand why they felt the need to rush this out when they obviously weren't ready, they should have just done a limited Beta indefinitely till they had a decent product. If they are playing the long game they still can turn it around overtime but google seems like the kind of company that loses interest quickly if they aren't winning.

That's not the Google MO. They like to release publicly and fix during early release. Sometimes it works, more often than not it doesn't. The "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" method of software release makes Google interesting as a company to study, but you should never rely on anything they release for anything important until it's been established that there is a user base for it and therefore it will not be thrown in the garbage down the road.

 

[A.Romero]

As someone who they have called 'a member of the team', receiving updates and invites for being an early Stadia adopter, and in some ways a tester, the last week has been nothing more than disgusting. Many features we were promised have been cancelled outright, and it seems Google has decided to trash their old roadmap. The last straw for me was broken within the last few days, when I played several of the upcoming 120 games, 10 being exclusives, and realized some of the previews we were shown months ago were not only BS but some of the titles shown previously don't even seem to be in development anymore and weren't even mentioned. The few playable game trials I got to play won't even come out until the end of this year or don't even have release dates. The average consumer who brought Stadia waiting for something good, I hate to tell you this but no change is coming in the near future. You may as well call most of the 120 games shovelware as I highly doubt many of them will be any more playable when the full versions release. You'll understand for yourself once we get closer to their release dates.

I was led to believe that things would turn around this year based on everything that was promised last year, turns out I was VERY mistaken as Google has decided to scrap or indefinitely delay nearly every game or feature promised from before. It doesn't help that they have not improved the infrastructure by any capacity, and the promised updates to improve streaming and input lag are now delayed indefinitely as the schedule for updates is unknown to anyone outside Google. I guess that means they will update things whenever they feel like it, if they ever update anything at all.

For those of you who are interested in buying Stadia, I cannot recommend it. After the first few hours of novelty you will realize that support is and will continue to be abysmal, and you won't be receiving a steady stream of quality releases. Several fixes that were said to come have been delayed indefinitely, and the few that will release won't come into play until the end of the year. Google won't give any dates so if you buy Stadia you'll be going in blind with no hint as to what will change going forward.

If you REALLY want streaming there are better options, PSNOW is getting better and XCLOUD will have a public release soon.

I really appreciate what you are doing here. Congrats on being objective.

 

[Grinchy]

I don't understand why they felt the need to rush this out when they obviously weren't ready, they should have just done a limited Beta indefinitely till they had a decent product. If they are playing the long game they still can turn it around overtime but google seems like the kind of company that loses interest quickly if they aren't winning.

Call me crazy, but I think that's basically exactly what they did. They put this service behind a $130 (plus monthly fees) paywall to make sure not a lot of people jumped in right away. I think this was to limit server load on whatever hardware nodes they were able to install along with being able to test the service on a bigger level with real-world parameters.

And they have another very obvious reason for not waiting to "launch." The next-gen systems come out this year. And the "10.7TFlops" are running Destiny 2 at 1080p medium settings. Imagine that competing with what we will be seeing on the new consoles. They couldn't launch against that.

 

[FStubbs]

Sounds like Stadia is already in a death spiral. It might get killed by Google before E3 at this rate.

Once upon a time I thought CDi was going to be big but it turned into an even worse joke than Stadia. It happens.

 

[wipeout364]

To be honest I don’t really want them to succeed, I don’t think google would be a good company as one of the core game companies, way too many ulterior motives. At least with Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft we know the primary motive is to make money off of games, with google it always feels like something more sinister.

 

[Voost Kain]

Once upon a time I thought CDi was going to be big but it turned into an even worse joke than Stadia. It happens.

CD-i sold over 1 million consoles.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Yeah not gonna be shocked, my Stadia was delieved launch. I have not even opened the package it came in. I should at least try it be Destiny 2 is a meh draw for me. I've been playing Breath of the Wild again and waiting for Animal Crossing

I guess I can't get my money back huh?

 

[MilkyJoe]

 

[Insane Metal]

Stadia is not worth it and doesn't work as advertised?

I'M SHOCKED! WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT!!!

 

[Trogdor1123]

CD-i sold over 1 million consoles.

Burn cycle.... Great game

 

[Kamina]

 

[MaximusPayne]

Voost, here's a virtual beer on me.

 

[Thanati]

What have they cancelled? I haven’t heard anything about cancellations.

 

[Hadwan1]

They will probably kill it in a couple of years too..

 

[themoose5]

...in other news water is wet.

Not to pile on too hard here but I think Stadia being a flop is anything but shocking to anyone that has an interest in games. Too much of the world has crappy internet and crappy ping for this to be popular. Input lag and streaming quality were ALWAYS going to be an issue for most people in the world. Not even touching on the fact that a lot of ISP's (in the US at least) have data caps on residential plans and Stadia uses a massive chunk of data.

All of that for almost no benefit compared to a console or PC. There was always only one way this was going, in the trash.

 

[EverydayBeast]

If people aren't buying it I don't know if Stadia will last long in the gaming community.

 

[Neff]

How could a console with gender-neutral controllers possibly fail

Phil Harrison should never be hired again. He seems to be around when game companies make their worst decisions.

In fairness, he was instrumental in PlayStation's European success in the mid '90s. Sony dominated so hard in the UK with PSone and PS2 that it's been a consistent PlayStation stronghold ever since.

 

[The Pleasure]

Stadia lost its only Stan.

And with that, goes the last of Google fart noise.

 

[BusierDonkey]

Did the check bounce or something? Did they try to pay you in CDN dollars?

 

[The Pleasure]

Did the check bounce or something? Did they try to pay you in CDN dollars?

The check bounced higher than a shaq attack double decker taco.

 

[Yoshi]

Finally the asterisk can vanish from the tagline "Google Stadia - The one thing all* of NeoGAF can agree on".

 

[HeresJohnny]

Notice how quiet Microsoft and Sony have suddenly become regarding streaming. They're lucky Google came in and took the bullet for them, because one (likely both) was going to try to run with the streaming thing imo and it would have been a glorious fucking train wreck.

 

[DaGwaphics]

Notice how quiet Microsoft and Sony have suddenly become regarding streaming. They're lucky Google came in and took the bullet for them, because one (likely both) was going to try to run with the streaming thing imo and it would have been a glorious fucking train wreck.

What makes you think they both are not still moving in that direction? They have the option of a slower transition, weaning users off hardware in steps.

 

[DanielsM]

Notice how quiet Microsoft and Sony have suddenly become regarding streaming. They're lucky Google came in and took the bullet for them, because one (likely both) was going to try to run with the streaming thing imo and it would have been a glorious fucking train wreck.

Oh me thinks you're just getting started on the whole xCloud is the future shit. Phil promised Nadella services, so...
Paid game streaming has been a fucking train wreck for 10+ years, seems to be an endless supply of people that want to go bearing down the tracks at full speed.

(than you'll get the people say, they just didn't set it up right .... it doesn't matter how many times you explain it to them)

 

[Whitecrow]

Notice how quiet Microsoft and Sony have suddenly become regarding streaming. They're lucky Google came in and took the bullet for them, because one (likely both) was going to try to run with the streaming thing imo and it would have been a glorious fucking train wreck.

You may have a point there

 

[Voost Kain]

Keep in mind that Sony and MS were originally terrified of Stadia. I'm sure they are laughing at how stupid they were for thinking that they were in any sort of trouble.

 

[PleaseWaitStation4]

Stunning and brave!