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DeeDogg_
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It’s obviously fake. The video is just someone moving a camera around awkwardly on a completely static screen. It’s time for big brain time, Gaf. Enough giving attention to these clowns
Neo Blaster
Member
Man, don't you go that way...
Blindarchangel82
Member
Clearly it's just a Photoshopped image. If you had access to the XsX and wanted to show the UI, why wouldn't you at least scroll around? Very suspicious to say the least.
DaGwaphics
Member
That wouldn't be bad. The Holy Grail would be both systems being the same price. Maybe MS was more shrewd in other areas in this hypothetical scenario.
It's like putting together a fantasy football team, it's hard to get the #1 pick in every position. That leaves MS and Sony with decisions on where they think they can afford to take a #2, what is the most important piece of the recipe for each and so on. What do they prioritize more GPU, CPU, RAM, SSD, etc.?
bitbydeath
Member
Sony Corporation (SNE) Q3 2019 Earnings Call Transcript | The Motley Fool
SNE earnings call for the period ending December 31, 2019.
www.fool.com
CuriousToe
Member
This would be a great result.
DeeDogg_
Banned
It’s been under our noses this whole time. Even Shinobis mouse picture between Feb and March was a clue..Sony Corporation (SNE) Q3 2019 Earnings Call Transcript | The Motley Fool
SNE earnings call for the period ending December 31, 2019.
the one date so obvious that no one thought of..genius.
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devilNprada
Member
So one guys flaw is over promising and the other guys flaw is being creepy. Lol that's fucked up.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
what is this guidance they are talking about.Sony Corporation (SNE) Q3 2019 Earnings Call Transcript | The Motley Fool
SNE earnings call for the period ending December 31, 2019.
Hiroki is talking about providing guidance at a time period comparable to the past. the question asked was talking about some guidance thats set to be released in april next year
is this some investor lingo im not familiar with?
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bitbydeath
Member
We’ve been burned before
James Sawyer Ford
Member
guidance is financial lingo for sales and profitability estimates
he’s saying they will reveal financial expectations of PS5 at a similar timeframe as PS4
I don’t think that’s in reference to reveal timing at all
bitbydeath
Member
Don’t know, probably a translation error, guidance and reveal are similar words tho.
Sinthor
Gold Member
So bottom line we won't know till specs are revealed but I had wondered this: IF it was true that the PS5 was say 9TF and the XsX was 12TF, how would that stack up in pricing? Would that mean that Sony was targeting like a $299 or $399 price point while MS was targeting $499 or $599? From what I've seen, 12TF would have to be around $599...wouldn't it? Or Ok, say it's $499. Would it be realistic to assume that Sony would have a 4TF disadvantage in tech and just be $100 cheaper?
It just doesn't sound right to me. I would think that regardless of the actual numbers, if one box was seriously outperforming the other, THAT kind of info and 'buzz' would leak. No one's really at risk there since they're not talking solid numbers and tech, so that would tend to leak far more quickly.
So I expect that WHATEVER the TF numbers are, both are going to be pretty darn close. I just don't see either company as being prone to so seriously underestimate where their competitor was headed and get "caught out" with a big performance disadvantage. I mean, it's hardly news or speculation that MS continues to try and target "power" as a premium. All about features and performance as they continue to try and expand their marketshare and hopefully take over the top spot in the market. While Sony IS the market leader and has all that ground to defend, so it's not very likely that they'd suddenly make that kind of blunder. Since the boxes are basically all based on the same technical base as well there's just not that potential like their was in the past (like with Sony going super exotic as in the PS2 and arguably even more so with the PS3). It's all moving towards standard parts...basically optimized gaming PC's.
I expect the differences to be where they spend their budget. It wouldn't surprise me to see MS prioritize and have the highest TF count, while Sony prioritizes memory bandwidth and/or the data bus between the SSD and the system. There will be tradeoffs, but again I think the MO of Microsoft is power and clock cycles as priority number one and Sony tends to be more about the bandwidth and/or system over all. But time will tell.
I just think people should A) tamp down expectations about outrageous TF performance and B) understand that this market too is changing and evolving like we saw with 'mid-gen' updates this time around. These companies are going to be trying to dip into our pockets more frequently with more iterative updates than selling to us just once every 7-10 years.
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DeeDogg_
Banned
Wait...since when are you an insider?
And that isn’t news. We’ve known this for months.
bitbydeath
Member
Wait...since when are you an insider?
And that isn’t news. We’ve known this for months.
You must have missed the coming out party.
ph33rknot
Banned
Nintendo are the most unpredictable out there
DeeDogg_
Banned
Can I get some help? I’ve missed a lot apparently
Mendou
Banned
UHD resolutions alone would remove most of the benefits, that is if Sony isn't using an independent seperate RT solution.
bumleforce
Member
Sony Corporation (SNE) Q3 2019 Earnings Call Transcript | The Motley Fool
SNE earnings call for the period ending December 31, 2019.
so when will we see it then?
Mriverz
Member
Soon
44alltheway
Member
a lot of so called 'insiders' made the assumption that the PS5 would be revealed in February due to that being the case with the Ps4. When does everyone think notable leaks will start coming out about the PS5?
bitbydeath
Member
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Yea, they're buying multiple game studios to not have them make games.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
just like Sony is going to have multiple announcements of hardware based ray tracing only to not have hardware based ray tracing
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Tommy Fisher
Banned
PS5 to be revealed in the same approach and time-frame as what sony did in the past with PS4, as they mentioned in their Q3 FY2019 too, is exactly what i heard about The announcement time of the console around 8 months ago.
Still #teamfeb
Still #teamfeb
demigod
Member
Damn boi, why you gotta make fun of jackAL.
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hemo memo
Gold Member
GDC2020
Reindeer
Member
demigod
Member
You said mid February and now you’re saying around the 20th? I’m calling bs on this. You got a few other things wrong. You said Sony weren’t going to ignore E3. You also said invites were sent out and expect announcement in January. I’m gonna have to go with “fake insider”.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Agnostic2020
Member
No he said exactly like psm1 . That was his saying . Psm1 lol
LED Guy?
Banned
Nah man, you lied, you said “Mid-February”, you don’t know shit and you’re not an insider.
Mods, please remove him.
Agnostic2020
Member
But he didn’t say mid feb ? You can go to his posts . I m not defending him but let’s not put words in his mouth ? He said just like psm1 about the date .
demigod
Member
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Scarlett and Nextstation releasing holiday 2020. Dont ask me how i know. I'm protecting my sources.
realcool
Member
Notable leaks? Closer to release id imagine. Official news - hopefully this month. But I'd very much doubt we'll hear proper specs till at least the summer. But the design could give a lot away. When people claim the Xbox is 12tf, looking at the design then yeah possibly.
So if the ps5 is some behemoth, then their is a chance it too will be in that ball park - be it greater or smaller. But part of me thinks Sony will favour design over better cooling.
Another way to look at it is both companies were gonna release a tower like design and MS literally raced to get their one out first. Sony couldn't release their one as it would look like they copied MS - maybe that was supposed to be at CES? Has their ever been a console reveal where we've just seen a 3d render of the machine and that's it? Isn't the norm to show off the actual console too? I genuinely can't remember haha.
Agnostic2020
Member
Why do I remember seeing him say around psm1 ? Maybe he said both ?Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Scarlett and Nextstation releasing holiday 2020. Dont ask me how i know. I'm protecting my sources.www.neogaf.com
bitbydeath
Member
demigod
Member
You’re right he did.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
I guess Timdoggydog is the only one to be verified of the @OsirisBlack @CameFromNearFuture @Tommy Fisher @XcloudTimdog bunch? Can't say I'm surprised, though. Timdoggydog is a verified fanboy, that much is true
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
My problem with this, aside from the way obvious fake video (who records a video of a dash that entirely static?), is that the latest dash that we should be getting any day now has moved away from the areas at the top of the screen, meaning whoever did this based it on the competent public dash, not the one in testing.
But I expect a minimal upgrade in the Xbox dash, because I dont think they even know what they or us want, to be fair. As long as it’s 4k, that’s ok with me.
Stillmatic
Member
Hmm, he does say here 'around mid feb'. I'd give 10th to the 20th a pass for that, at the most.Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Scarlett and Nextstation releasing holiday 2020. Dont ask me how i know. I'm protecting my sources.
The 'known for 8 months' sounds a bit suss though in his latest post, I doubt they'd plan the date that far in advance, we shall seee Mr Fisher.
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