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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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DrDamn

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I was sceptical about RDNA2 as they hadn't been using the term, but boom there it is. Well played MS.

Nice to see 12TF officially confirmed as a figure, though it still won't silence some it seems ...

I'm guessing/hoping this may be a pre-emptive info dump as Sony is about to unleash some info.
 

Disco_

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Kleegamefan got verified twice as a credible source, when a "credible" source gets verified twice that means his INFO is CORRECT but he doesn't want to reveal his source's name location and all that.

Klees info was not verified. That was confirmed by the admins there a couple of times. Because of who Klee was and what he did, it's possible he still had access to people/source who could give him info. That was the reason for his verification.


Anybody here know the cost difference between a 384 bit motherboard/chips and 256 bit? Just curious about what sony/microsoft are looking at in terms of cost.
They're both using gddr6 32bit chips. The more chips you use, the higher the bus. 8 chips=256bit bus. 12 chips=384bit bus.


12 Teraflops and RDNA 2 confirmed for XSX - Phil Spencer article linked in the tweet. As well as VRS, Hardware accel RT, quick resume,

Holy shit, that's THE big news.
Damn, ~490mm2 on 7nm. What the hell is on that die?
 

Gediminas

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Tell me when it was ever confirmed that it was 12 TF RDNA 2 please.
xbox already said it, that they will have 12TF machine, they are confirming this AGAIN. RDNA 2 is not even in the picture at this time again, because they CLEARLY stating that it is 2x more powerful than xbox x and 8x powerfull than xbox S. so it's impossible mathematically to be true, so there is a lie somewhere. so yeah, more of the same and nothing new. lets wait for more CONCRETE info.
 

hemo memo

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12 Teraflops and RDNA 2 confirmed for XSX - Phil Spencer article linked in the tweet. As well as VRS, Hardware accel RT, quick resume,



Looking forward to Sony posting news at some point!


Well there you go. Bravo Microsoft. They are doing the correct moves so far.

Meanwhile at Sony HQ

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TBiddy

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xbox already said it, that they will have 12TF machine, they are confirming this AGAIN. RDNA 2 is not even in the picture at this time again, because they CLEARLY stating that it is 2x more powerful than xbox x and 8x powerfull than xbox S. so it's impossible mathematically to be true, so there is a lie somewhere. so yeah, more of the same and nothing new. lets wait for more CONCRETE info.

Wait, what? You do know that literally wrote "RDNA 2", right?
 
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Deleted member 775630

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xbox already said it, that they will have 12TF machine, they are confirming this AGAIN. RDNA 2 is not even in the picture at this time again, because they CLEARLY stating that it is 2x more powerful than xbox x and 8x powerfull than xbox S. so it's impossible mathematically to be true, so there is a lie somewhere. so yeah, more of the same and nothing new. lets wait for more CONCRETE info.
Well you're not going to say that it's 8.57 times as powerful as the Xbox One S for marketing reasons. And you also don't want to lie and say it's 9 times as powerful. Hence just 8 times as powerful. The math is correct...
 

IkarugaDE

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Maybe Sony is about to reveal something, and Ms make a move first to counter?...
It happened before on both sides: first Wired article was some days before XSX reveal, Phils apu Twitter pic was one day before CES... What do you think.?
IMO thats a quite pressure for Sony now. We can hope that they'll feel obliged to react very soon.
 

Moses85

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My theory is Sony is not hitting 12TF and therefore will not tout teraflop numbers. But does it matter, no. They have amazing 1st party games. I'm playing Last of Us Remastered on PS4Pro and it still looks awesome! Who cares really at this point.

I love TLOU but it already looks outdated..

I definitely care!
 

Bo_Hazem

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I was sceptical about RDNA2 as they hadn't been using the term, but boom there it is. Well played MS.

Nice to see 12TF officially confirmed as a figure, though it still won't silence some it seems ...

I'm guessing/hoping this may be a pre-emptive info dump as Sony is about to unleash some info.

Seems like it's time to have both HeisenbergFX4 HeisenbergFX4 (doubtful of them hitting 12TF) and OsirisBlack OsirisBlack (mentioned the number 12.4TF at least once for PS5? And both targeting above 12TF+).

Only if they can comment in a way that doesn't hurt any of their contacts.
 
What do you mean?
Xbox One X is a 6TF GCN (polaris) based box. MS says the Series X is twice that in performance and in the same breath states 12TF.
I'm just stating the obvious that they use GCN numbers to describe TF performance.
Marketing material will not reference GCN or RDNA, JFC, it's 12TF RDNA, twice meaning just numbers wise, 12 is 2 x 6.
 
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Deleted member 775630

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What do you mean?
Xbox One X is a 6TF GCN (polaris) based box. MS says the Series X is twice that in performance and in the same breath states 12TF.
I'm just stating the obvious that they use GCN numbers to describe TF performance.
Well yeah, were you expecting a 12TF in RDNA 2 numbers performance? That's not even realistic. Doesn't that translate to 18TF GCN numbers? "pie_tears_joy:
 
[..]enabling developers to leverage 12 TFLOPS of GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) performance – twice that of an Xbox One X[..]
..So more like GCN 12TF then...

Stretch.

They say 12TF at RDNA 2.0. There is nothing unclear about it.

A TF is a TF doesn't matter the architechture. Its just that 12TF RDNA 2.0 will be much more powerful than 12 TF GCN.

Stop this nonsense. I mean what will it take for some of you to just take official statements as what they are.
 

HeisenbergFX4

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Seems like it's time to have both HeisenbergFX4 HeisenbergFX4 (doubtful of them hitting 12TF) and OsirisBlack OsirisBlack (mentioned the number 12.4TF at least once for PS5? And both targeting above 12TF+).

Only if they can comment in a way that doesn't hurt any of their contacts.

I have to admit I am surprised it did actually hit 12 as I thought it would be slightly under that.

And RDNA 2?

Day freakin 0 for me on that beast.

Now we wait for Sony and more importantly pricing.
 

Shio

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Seeing more information on the Xbox Series X has really got me hyped! Even though i have not intention on getting one, knowing the beefy specs gives a good indication of the benchmark for the coming generation. What would be nice to know is that does this 12TF number include the Ray Tracing? If so then the power left after RT might not be so significant..
 

Dabaus

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Sony needs to make a move. Now. This has gone on too long. I

t's okay to let Microsoft fire the first shots if you want to be quiet for a bit, but allowing this to happen all the way to nearly March is a very worrying sign.

Something isn't right on the Sony side of things. I'm concerned.

I agree, theyre silence is deafening right now. If they too have 12 tflops they should put a statement out like "We are proud to share the ps5 will have 12 tflops, we'll share more in the future." It is looking like Sony under speced their console and are hiding, waiting for MS to play all their cards before they peek back up. Extremely bad look coming from the market leader like this.
 

Bo_Hazem

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I have to admit I am surprised it did actually hit 12 as I thought it would be slightly under that.

And RDNA 2?

Day freakin 0 for me on that beast.

Now we wait for Sony and more importantly pricing.

That actually surprises me even more, with the "Bigly" and little birdie you have. Seems like both were insanely locking down such details as possible. We appreciate all your engagement, sir 🤝 Great times ahead!
 

ZywyPL

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