Fatal Enigma
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Pretty big mountain to overcome right now, it's time for Sony to stop being so tight lipped. We gamers want to know some details
I've always kept an mid range of and consoles (usually ps/nintendo). If these machines are both in the 12tf range, I don't see myself updating my gaming desktop for a long long time if at all.
Yep he was right.As much as he's a whiney fanboy, I'm surprised and at the sime time, i'm not, that he was right on the number.
They were confident enough of their own product to give out specs, says nothing about Sony really.Said that they are not confident about what Sony has in hands "Xbox Series X is OUR fastest, most powerful console ever..."
[..]enabling developers to leverage 12 TFLOPS of GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) performance – twice that of an Xbox One X[..]
..So more like GCN 12TF then...
Acceptance of reality is hard for someSeriously? You are going to go there?
Kleegamefan got verified twice as a credible source, when a "credible" source gets verified twice that means his INFO is CORRECT but he doesn't want to reveal his source's name location and all that.
They're both using gddr6 32bit chips. The more chips you use, the higher the bus. 8 chips=256bit bus. 12 chips=384bit bus.Anybody here know the cost difference between a 384 bit motherboard/chips and 256 bit? Just curious about what sony/microsoft are looking at in terms of cost.
12 Teraflops and RDNA 2 confirmed for XSX - Phil Spencer article linked in the tweet. As well as VRS, Hardware accel RT, quick resume,
xbox already said it, that they will have 12TF machine, they are confirming this AGAIN. RDNA 2 is not even in the picture at this time again, because they CLEARLY stating that it is 2x more powerful than xbox x and 8x powerfull than xbox S. so it's impossible mathematically to be true, so there is a lie somewhere. so yeah, more of the same and nothing new. lets wait for more CONCRETE info.Tell me when it was ever confirmed that it was 12 TF RDNA 2 please.
12 Teraflops and RDNA 2 confirmed for XSX - Phil Spencer article linked in the tweet. As well as VRS, Hardware accel RT, quick resume,
Looking forward to Sony posting news at some point!
huh?MS: 12TF RDNA 2.
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I suspect it's just his bias shining through. I mean, how can anyone be unhappy that we're getting a fricking 12 TF monster, unless you're really invested in the other side?
There's no way this is a $499 machine, right?
It is beyond me that sony still hasn't revealed PS5. Why though???
xbox already said it, that they will have 12TF machine, they are confirming this AGAIN. RDNA 2 is not even in the picture at this time again, because they CLEARLY stating that it is 2x more powerful than xbox x and 8x powerfull than xbox S. so it's impossible mathematically to be true, so there is a lie somewhere. so yeah, more of the same and nothing new. lets wait for more CONCRETE info.
I think they are more likely like this:Well there you go. Bravo Microsoft. They are doing the correct moves so far.
Meanwhile at Sony HQ
I'm using dark theme i missing the joke.MS: 12TF RDNA 2.
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Well you're not going to say that it's 8.57 times as powerful as the Xbox One S for marketing reasons. And you also don't want to lie and say it's 9 times as powerful. Hence just 8 times as powerful. The math is correct...xbox already said it, that they will have 12TF machine, they are confirming this AGAIN. RDNA 2 is not even in the picture at this time again, because they CLEARLY stating that it is 2x more powerful than xbox x and 8x powerfull than xbox S. so it's impossible mathematically to be true, so there is a lie somewhere. so yeah, more of the same and nothing new. lets wait for more CONCRETE info.
What do you mean?Seriously? You are going to go there?
IMO thats a quite pressure for Sony now. We can hope that they'll feel obliged to react very soon.Maybe Sony is about to reveal something, and Ms make a move first to counter?...
It happened before on both sides: first Wired article was some days before XSX reveal, Phils apu Twitter pic was one day before CES... What do you think.?
My theory is Sony is not hitting 12TF and therefore will not tout teraflop numbers. But does it matter, no. They have amazing 1st party games. I'm playing Last of Us Remastered on PS4Pro and it still looks awesome! Who cares really at this point.
I was sceptical about RDNA2 as they hadn't been using the term, but boom there it is. Well played MS.
Nice to see 12TF officially confirmed as a figure, though it still won't silence some it seems ...
I'm guessing/hoping this may be a pre-emptive info dump as Sony is about to unleash some info.
Marketing material will not reference GCN or RDNA, JFC, it's 12TF RDNA, twice meaning just numbers wise, 12 is 2 x 6.What do you mean?
Xbox One X is a 6TF GCN (polaris) based box. MS says the Series X is twice that in performance and in the same breath states 12TF.
I'm just stating the obvious that they use GCN numbers to describe TF performance.
Well yeah, were you expecting a 12TF in RDNA 2 numbers performance? That's not even realistic. Doesn't that translate to 18TF GCN numbers?What do you mean?
Xbox One X is a 6TF GCN (polaris) based box. MS says the Series X is twice that in performance and in the same breath states 12TF.
I'm just stating the obvious that they use GCN numbers to describe TF performance.
[..]enabling developers to leverage 12 TFLOPS of GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) performance – twice that of an Xbox One X[..]
..So more like GCN 12TF then...
Seems like it's time to have both HeisenbergFX4 (doubtful of them hitting 12TF) and OsirisBlack (mentioned the number 12.4TF at least once for PS5? And both targeting above 12TF+).
Only if they can comment in a way that doesn't hurt any of their contacts.
Sony needs to make a move. Now. This has gone on too long. I
t's okay to let Microsoft fire the first shots if you want to be quiet for a bit, but allowing this to happen all the way to nearly March is a very worrying sign.
Something isn't right on the Sony side of things. I'm concerned.
You say that like there won't be any Crossgen games for the next 2 yearsI have to admit I am surprised it did actually hit 12 as I thought it would be slightly under that.
And RDNA 2?
Day freakin 0 for me on that beast.
Now we wait for Sony and more importantly pricing.
I have to admit I am surprised it did actually hit 12 as I thought it would be slightly under that.
And RDNA 2?
Day freakin 0 for me on that beast.
Now we wait for Sony and more importantly pricing.
You say that like there won't be any Crossgen games for the next 2 years
Meanwhile at Sony HQ
MEANWHILE AT SONY
I think they are more likely like this: