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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Speaking about the bombs, what if you could play almost all the Previous PS libraries in an enhanced situation?! You definitely don't want Bluepoint to do a DS remaster when you simply can play it in 4K/60fps via BC.
Demon's Souls is definitely a great game, but it is janky as fuck. Simply being at 4K 60 won't really change that. If Bluepoint do remaster it, they could do a lot to polish the game up. If not with the gameplay, but visually as well.
 

R600

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Everyone was wrong about Lockhart. Ev vry One. Even your pal tom warren was wrong about it.
No you see, Tom Warren was the first to.report on it existing. First to report on cancellation and first to report on it being back on menu.

The so called insiders are the ones riding the wave. You said it yourself, plans change, but no one seemed to know about it but him and Brad. Which leads me to believe it was never cancelled, just that they have been fed bs info from.time to time.
 

DeepEnigma

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Speaking about the bombs, what if you could play almost all the Previous PS libraries in an enhanced situation?! You definitely don't want Bluepoint to do a DS remaster when you simply can play it in 4K/60fps via BC.

What if this is the project a Bluepoint has been working on along with another game?
 

R600

Banned
Everyone was wrong about Lockhart. Ev vry One. Even your pal tom warren was wrong about it.
No you see, Tom Warren was the first to.report on it existing. First to report on cancellation and first to report on it being back on menu.

The so called insiders are the ones riding the wave. You said it yourself, plans change, but no one seemed to know about it but him and Brad. Which leads me to believe it was never cancelled, just that they have been fed bs info from.time to time.
 
No you see, Tom Warren was the first to.report on it existing. First to report on cancellation and first to report on it being back on menu.

The so called insiders are the ones riding the wave. You said it yourself, plans change, but no one seemed to know about it but him and Brad. Which leads me to believe it was never cancelled, just that they have been fed bs info from.time to time.

Yeah, but Tom Warren never said that XSX has a double digit TFLOPS and Navi , yet Klee did. So, Tom Warren knows shit.
 
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CatLady

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He still hasn't given information before it has been publicly revealed or heavily speculated on. It's clear he's making educated guesses and he's gotten those guesses wrong multiple times already. Most recently the Feb PS5 reveal.

There's that and if I recall correctly, isn't he also the one that adamantly claimed as an absolute fact Sony had purchased the publicly traded company, Remedy, yet obviously it was BS?
 

Hostile_18

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Hmm it definitely reads to me as if the PS5 engineer was taken aback and it will only be RDNA 1 in the PS5 despite what he said later on to try and "cover his tracks".

In any case Microsoft has created a very viable alternative to the PS5 so congratulations to them. The PS5 radio silence is annoying now even to me a massive PS4 fan (added with the lack of shows this last year and off hand comments regarding gamepass, refunds and cross play), they really need to come out swinging and soon. I left the 360 for the PS4 because of MS's attitude the second half of its life cycle, I've done it once and I'll do it again if I feel one company is better than another.

Naughty Dog are my favorite developers but with their newest game coming out on the PS4 it will likely be years before they release a game on the PS5. So yeah definitely going to be a carefully weighted decision over which console to get first... and that makes it very exciting 😁.
 
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So, what we have here. Tommy's statement that XSX TFLOPS are RDNA 2 = educated guess

On december 14 2019 Tommy Fisher Tommy Fisher wrote xsx is 12 tf rdna2 . What else u wanted him to say ?literally no one had the balls to say rdna 2 but him lol

He still hasn't given information before it has been publicly revealed or heavily speculated on. It's clear he's making educated guesses and he's gotten those guesses wrong multiple times already. Most recently the Feb PS5 reveal.

Even Senji or whatever the guys name here said XSX is RDNA2 (as has blueisviollet idiot on twitter). Lets give them some credit.

SenjutsuSage's and MisterXmedia's puppet Blue statement that XSX TFLOPS are RDNA 2 = technical knowledge beyond any logic
 
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M-V2

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Tommy's one of the only insiders who has not been verified. Also they've had instances of diving head-first into console warrior attack posts, not befitting of someone who wants to come off as a credible insider IMHO. And he was also caught pulling "info" from spec sheets that had been out for months online by then, but were forgotten by many people by the time he started posting them again.

I'm sorry but Tommy is not very reputable, they seem to have been piggybacking off obscure spec fantasy sheets and what other more reputable insiders have been claiming. That's my opinion on the matter anyway, nothing against them personally.



Dunno where it's at anymore sadly but now you've got me very curious. Hopefully someone saved a copy and will be generous enough to post it back up anonymously?

Can you recall anything else the document said?

It's fine to think like that, but imo people should ask Mod of War Mod of War if the guy is verfied or not instead of attacking the guy, I'm not saying you're attacking him but I see some people do.
 

FranXico

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Hope this is true Tommy. We've heard this from some youtuber previously I forgot his name (mbg?) and all these know it alls that think they know about emulation cried its impossible.

Of course I play ps1, ps2 and ps3 games on my pc, but they know better obviously.
HipHopGamer. He bet his reputation on it and went on about a "remaster engine" or something.
I didn't believe it.
 

DJ12

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It's fine to think like that, but imo people should ask Mod of War Mod of War if the guy is verfied or not instead of attacking the guy, I'm not saying you're attacking him but I see some people do.
He was he gave whoever's asked him some info but would've provide everything they wanted to get verified for whatever reason.

Mod of war has said this many times now.
 

Rudius

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Speaking about the bombs, what if you could play almost all the Previous PS libraries in an enhanced situation?! You definitely don't want Bluepoint to do a DS remaster when you simply can play it in 4K/60fps via BC.
Almost all? What about PS3? That's the most difficult one, but is the one that would make the most difference (since PS4 is confirmed).
 

Gediminas

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Demon's Souls is definitely a great game, but it is janky as fuck. Simply being at 4K 60 won't really change that. If Bluepoint do remaster it, they could do a lot to polish the game up. If not with the gameplay, but visually as well.
there is no remaster of this game. game is from 2008. if rumors are true, it is straight up remake, as it should be.
 

DJ12

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Almost all? What about PS3? That's the most difficult one, but is the one that would make the most difference (since PS4 is confirmed).
If pc hobbyists can do it to a good degree of accuracy reverse engineering it, sony paid employees with all the documentation required certainly can. Heck give that info to the hobbyists and rpcs3 would be neigh on 90% compatibility already.
 

splattered

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Probably a super silly question/theory here, but what if Sony went for a totally custom RT route for PS5 thinking MS wouldnt invest in it at all... like Cell Processor kind of custom.

And then what if it complicates game design for multiplatform titles if MS solution and Sony solution dont play nice together? As in screwing with porting games across platform etc.
 
If pc hobbyists can do it to a good degree of accuracy reverse engineering it, sony paid employees with all the documentation required certainly can. Heck give that info to the hobbyists and rpcs3 would be neigh on 90% compatibility already.

Yeah, but problem is pc hobbyists didn't worked on PS5. They spent years just to crack PS3 tech and just to make first PS3 game running on PC in some way
 
Sony having full, enhanced BC across their entire library is a pretty big deal. People don't really believe that PS3 could be BC, much less enhanced.

If anybody could pull it off outside the stout RPCS3 guys, it would be the original creators of the system.

That being said--as miraculous as that "bomb" would be, it is still a mirroring of what Microsoft is doing with BC.

I don't know what major "bombs" Sony could have save for software, if the edge is so minimal.

The only other thing that would line up for *me* in terms of "bombs" would be killer launch titles, resurrection of long-demanded franchises or studio acquisitions / exclusivity deals on a reasonably decent scale(i.e. Respawn, etc.)

Far left-field bomb prediction: Final Fantasy VIIR becomes permanently PS exclusive. >_>
 

PaintTinJr

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The 12TF number is huge (IMHO). I’m impressed and intrigued. My only odd thoughts about the news comes from looking at the way they’ve ordered the capabilities – as I would assume you lead with your strongest cards – and placing Variable rate shading (a rasterization technique) more prominently that RT, and then for them to omit RT transparency or semi transparency in the DX RT info makes me question how next-gen looking the console will be with is 12TF. Hopefully these are just reveal mistakes and nothing more.
 

DeepEnigma

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Probably a super silly question/theory here, but what if Sony went for a totally custom RT route for PS5 thinking MS wouldnt invest in it at all... like Cell Processor kind of custom.

And then what if it complicates game design for multiplatform titles if MS solution and Sony solution dont play nice together? As in screwing with porting games across platform etc.

Shu as well as others have said devs are thrilled with the toolset and ease of use the PS5 is, so I don’t think it will be this way.
 

quest

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Glad to see rdna2 was confirmed it made perfect sense as I posted before if it had the new TMUs and CUs of rdna2 why would they stop there. Also common sense won out 400mm die and case designed to cool gets us a solid 12tf. Nice to see a confident MS sure they are going crushed but maybe they can bring some competition and get Sony to move to more consumer friendly.
 

Roronoa Zoro

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Sony having full, enhanced BC across their entire library is a pretty big deal. People don't really believe that PS3 could be BC, much less enhanced.

If anybody could pull it off outside the stout RPCS3 guys, it would be the original creators of the system.

That being said--as miraculous as that "bomb" would be, it is still a mirroring of what Microsoft is doing with BC.

I don't know what major "bombs" Sony could have save for software, if the edge is so minimal.

The only other thing that would line up for *me* in terms of "bombs" would be killer launch titles, resurrection of long-demanded franchises or studio acquisitions / exclusivity deals on a reasonably decent scale(i.e. Respawn, etc.)

Far left-field bomb prediction: Final Fantasy VIIR becomes permanently PS exclusive. >_>
Sony would have WAY more games if they include PS1 and PS2 libraries so they could just market the number of titles to play on it
 
Erm, I have never made it anything but crystal clear that I favour Xbox over PlayStation. But I Still post without bias and talk facts.

In sorry if my post offended you, but then, that says more about you, does it not? Who was you expecting to be upset right about now? Xbox or playstation fans?

So yes. YOUR PlayStation, because YOU, like several others in here, are currently in meltdown mode. I’m sorry you feel this way. Who exactly do you think would be upset right now? Xbox fans? Fans of both? No. So yes; you playstation fans.

My pre-orders haven’t changed, my currently owned systems haven’t changed. If anything, this just cements that even more.

Im so sorry today has been hard for you 🤣
This is the most fanboyish cringe trash i've read in this thread all day. Jesus christ. Some of you need a psychological evaluation.
 
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