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Is anybody here genuinely undecided about which next gen console they are going to get?

Kazza

Kazza

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Looking at the responses to every morsel of next-gen news, it seems that many people (if not most) already made up their minds long ago and are now in justification mode. So, is there anyone here that can say hand-on-heart that they really are in two minds as to which console they are going to buy? If so, which factors will be most important in your decision?

Despite MS's big news drop today, there are still a number of unknowns which could influence someone's choice:
- specs (of the PS5 and Lockhart)
- price
- launch line up of games
- confirmation of rumours of PS4/5 exclusives coming to PC
- backwards compatibility (PS5 only, already confirmed for Xbox)

Even for those who think they know which console they are going to get, would any of these realistic "worst case scenarios" make you change your mind?

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Worst case PS5 scenario:
- same price as Series X, but only 9 TF
- Horizon Zero Dawn and God of War confirmed for PC, with hints of delayed PC ports of first party PS5 games as well
- backwards compatibility limited to PS4 only

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Worst case Xbox scenario:
- Series X only slightly more powerful than PS5 but over $100+ more
- lacklustre lineup of launch window titles, despite their recent studio purchases
- the first party titles look compromised due to the need to cater to last-gen Xbox One users

Even those worst case scenarios aren't on the same level as the PS3 and Xbox One botched launches, but they might be enough to tip the balance.

BTW, I know that the choice of consoles aren't mutually exclusive, but I imagine that for most people (even Gaf members) dropping $1000+ on console hardware in one go isn't something that most would be willing to consider, especially given how similar they are likely to be, so some kind of decision will be necessary for most.

BTW2 I will be getting a PC, so have no dog in this fight. I'll just say that I'm happy that MS raised the bar today and hope that Sony follows closely in terms of specs. The imminent release of next gen consoles is good news for PC gamers looking to push gaming forward. They look like being a good value proposition vis-a-vis PC (at least for the first year), and I would be tempted myself, if I didn't need a powerful PC for non-gaming purposes.
 
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Stuart360

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Still not convinced Lockhart is a thing, or if it even ends up as what people think. I wouldnt be surprised if it ends up being just a all digital diskless XSX. Or a streaming version, which was the orig rumour in the first place going way back.

Also if you are a console gamer, i dont see what problem there is with Sony releasing games on PC (if they do end up doing it). Its extra money for Sony, and i doubt they will be making any money on the PS5 hardware,. not for the first few years anyway.
 
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Leonidas

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Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and the decline in PS+ quality made the choice between Xbox and PS easy.

Subbed to Game Pass Ultimate till 2023. Stopped subbing to PS+ after they cut down to a measly 2 paid games/month.

If I get a next-gen machine it will be an Xbox, but I could just as easily save the money I would have spent on a console and use it towards PC upgrades.
 
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Kazza

Kazza

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Stuart360 said:
Still not convinced Lockhart is a thing, or if it even ends up as what people think. I wouldnt be surprised if it ends up being just a all digital diskless XSX. Or a streaming version, which was the orig rumour in the first place going way back.

Also if you are a console gamer, i dont see what problem there is with Sony releasing games on PC (if they do end up doing it). Its extra money for Sony, and i doubt they will be making any money on the PS5 hardware,. not for the first few years anyway.
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I think we will know if Lockhart is really going ahead or not once we find out the price of Series X. If MS really are willing to take a loss and sell the Series X at $499 (or, in a crazy world, at $399 even) then Lockhart is dead. However, if Series X is priced at $599 or higher, then I think Lockhart is a sure thing.

While I agree that Ps cames coming to PC shouldn't be an issue (and might even be a good thing, as the devs might be able to push budgets even further knowing they have another market to sell to as well as the PS5), the PS5 would lose sme bragging rights, especially with the shit Xbox got for doing the same (although I can't see day and date ports, for a few years at least)
 
PSYGN

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Depends on the features and release game lineup for me. If the XSX is more powerful, I would like to see first-party games on it that make me go wow this fidelity is only possible on XSX, because you know third-party devs wouldn't bother embellishing that difference in TF in a noticeable manner.

In which case with my arguably small digital purchases this gen and coworkers on the PS4 I'd probably end up sticking with PS5 unless the PS5 drops the ball stupidly hard.

I'll own both eventually anyway.

I guess you can say I'm undecided until I learn more.
 
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Sosokrates

Sosokrates

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It's really tough, I don't play enough to really justify buying multiple consoles.
I was just going to get the system that was the most powerful, but if both consoles are very similar in power then that won't be the deciding factor.

This gen I've only completed 3 PS4 exclusives, and about 3 Xbox one exclusives, overall I would say I enjoyed the PS4 ones a bit better, however the vast majority of games I play are 3rd party and now gamepass just exposes me to stuff that I would never normally play and with Xbox now having 15 studious next gen there exclusives may match Sony's, plus I can play them all for no more extra cost on gamepass.

So it's a very hard choice one hand a few Sony exclusives are better to me but with Xbox I play more games overall and it's better value.
 
Stuart360

Stuart360

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PSYGN said:
Depends on the features and release game lineup for me. If the XSX is more powerful, I would like to see first-party games on it that make me go wow this fidelity is only possible on XSX, because you know third-party devs wouldn't bother embellishing that difference in TF in a noticeable manner.

In which case with my arguably small digital purchases this gen and coworkers on the PS4 I'd probably end up sticking with PS5 unless the PS5 drops the ball stupidly hard.

I'll own both eventually anyway.

I guess you can say I'm undecided until I learn more.
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I think you should probably stick with PS5 then because even if XSX WAS 3tf more powerful, i doubt you are going to get a game that will make you think 'only possible on XSX'. With Naughty Dog etc, some of Sony's first party games would probably end up looking just as good, even with the less powerful hardware.
Multiplatform games could be a different story though.
 
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darkinstinct

...lacks reading comprehension.
Stuart360 said:
I think you should probably stick with PS5 then because even if XSX WAS 3tf more powerful, i doubt you are going to get a game that will make you think 'only possible on XSX'. With Naughty Dog etc, some of Sony's first party games would probably end up looking just as good, even with the less powerful hardware.
Multiplatform games could be a different story though.
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The Coalition and Playground Games would like to have a word with you.
 
Stuart360

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darkinstinct said:
The Coalition and Playground Games would like to have a word with you.
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Gears 5 and FH4 are amazing looking games for sure. Dont missunderstand me, what i'm saying is that if XSX did end up more powerful, it would be a bit different to this gen. Both consoles should be hitting 4k with those specs, high rez texture, super high poly worlds etc. Its going to be harder to see the power difference than this gen. Both consoles SHOULD be giving us amazing looking games. I mean poly counts for example, should be so high that even if the less powerful machine got a lower poly count for npc's, assets etc, you probably wouldnt be able to notice.
The only difference i would possibly expect is with 3rd party games, where you could probably see the lesser console dropping a few more frames etc.
 
Shin

Shin

Banned
Nah, console gaming achieved or will achieve greatness IMO with 4K/60, it's the holy grail for me.
Not going to limit myself to a single platform, for all else I'll have a strong ass PC and 50/50 chance of getting a Switch to complete the package.
 
Yoshi

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Any of these: Banjo 3, Conker 2, Blast Corps 2, Kameo 2, Ori 3 (playable in single player always offline) would necessarily solidify I would get an Xbox SX. If none of these happen, then it is not yet clear which of the two I will get. PS5 has the advantage of me not owning a PS4, so I would get a couple of games I am interested in (e.g. the two God of War games) via BC, Xbox SX has the advantage of having the much, much better controller and allowing for usage of my existing Xbox One controllers. Price will likely not be the major issue because I am going to buy a new console in 2022 I would guess (again, expect if one of the big ones above happen, which, again, is unlikely), where I expect both to be priced similar to each other.
 
Stuart360

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Yoshi said:
Any of these: Banjo 3, Conker 2, Blast Corps 2, Kameo 2, Ori 3 (playable in single player always offline) would necessarily solidify I would get an Xbox SX. If none of these happen, then it is not yet clear which of the two I will get. PS5 has the advantage of me not owning a PS4, so I would get a couple of games I am interested in (e.g. the two God of War games) via BC, Xbox SX has the advantage of having the much, much better controller and allowing for usage of my existing Xbox One controllers. Price will likely not be the major issue because I am going to buy a new console in 2022 I would guess (again, expect if one of the big ones above happen, which, again, is unlikely), where I expect both to be priced similar to each other.
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Rare came out a while ago and said they wont be looking at their back catalogue for future games, it will all be new stuff. So chances are slim for those games, unless they are given to a different studio.
Having said that, i did see a few rumours about a new Perfect Dark so.
 
kurisu_1974

kurisu_1974

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I have a gaming PC and I'm not even interested in God of War or Horizon. Still enough games that will come out only on PS5 without those two mainstream titles.

Raw power is the least of my concern TBH.
 
C

Cattlyst

Member
As a PS4 owner this gen and a 360 owner last gen, I'm pretty open to getting either system tbh. I don't really have any brand loyalty. The Series X is tempting though, simply because of the backwards compatibility. So many Xbox games I haven't played this gen. That said, having seen nothing from Sony yet, I'm mostly undecided. Talk about a non-answer!
 
Kazza

Kazza

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For people planning on getting both, but only buying one at launch and the other a year or two down the line, I suppose the PS5 would be the one to go for first, considering that MS have already promised no next-gen exclusive first party titles for the first year. You would still be able to play those on your S/X (assuming you already have one)
 
GymWolf

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Not really, only one console has game that i can only play in their console, so i'm kinda forced to buy it.
 
Moses85

Moses85

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The stronger console will get my money and support. I have supported Sony since the PS2 Era (also have the Xbox Family from the beginning) But if Sony is reacting like idiots and bring a 399€ underpowered console, I am out.
 
Yoshi

Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Stuart360 said:
Rare came out a while ago and said they wont be looking at their back catalogue for future games, it will all be new stuff. So chances are slim for those games, unless they are given to a different studio.
Having said that, i did see a few rumours about a new Perfect Dark so.
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They only said they won't use the back catalogue, if they do not have new ideas for it. Also, I have not said the games need to be by Rare themselves.
 
LemmingWithaParachute

LemmingWithaParachute

Banned
I'm sold on the XSX. Backwards compatibility to play 3 generations of games plus the latest. Wont be picking it up until I see what the exclusives/or third party support is like (better performance vs PS5, for example) If its going to be meh levels of exclusives, then I'll wait for a sale to get that multi gen backwards compatibility.

Regardless of PS specs, until I start seeing them drop the whole censorship of games thing and how they handle backwards compatibility. At this point, its safe to assume that they've got the exclusives part sorted.

as per censorship:
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Dont market and sell games to adults, only to then go ahead censor them.
 
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Hotty Botty

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I always got Sony consoles. The only MS console I ever bought was the OG Xbox. But I think that’s gonna change next gen. Game Pass looks great and the XSX is a monster. I’ll probably buy a PS5 deep into its life cycle along with discounted exclusives.
 
HaveButOneLife

HaveButOneLife

Banned
Kazza said:
For people planning on getting both, but only buying one at launch and the other a year or two down the line, I suppose the PS5 would be the one to go for first, considering that MS have already promised no next-gen exclusive first party titles for the first year. You would still be able to play those on your S/X (assuming you already have one)
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This was exactly what I was thinking and what I was doing anyway.
 
INC

INC

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So far I've yet to see any games on either that would make me purchase, so far its wow last gen games on next gen will look better.
 
VertigoOA

VertigoOA

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If everything is panning out the way it has rumored to be... going Xbox. More power, superior support of existing game libraries, forward compatibility of current gen games... and it seems to be shaping up significantly more powerful. And gamespass will clearly present the best value to new console owners so even if there’s a price discrepancy, the volume of games released thru the sub will negate any perceived cost of more expensive hardware... a 10$ launch Halo is a huge deal as well (even if 343 is an absolutely shit-tier studio).

Got the PS4 because it was more powerful than the Xbox One. The 100$ difference in price was a insignificant factor.

If Sony is coming In underpowered... they fucked up. I hope it isn’t true because PS4 is arguably my favorite console ever but... could care less about either console’s exclusive library.
 
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Virex

Virex

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Probably only PS5 given that all Xbox exclusives will be on PC. Now if Sony follows suit. Then I won't be getting a PS5 either and play it all on just PC and Nintendo exclusives on Switch
 
ZywyPL

ZywyPL

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PS5 is a huge question mark for me.

I know I'm getting XBX because I'm not interested in PC anymore, and given the past two generations of consoles it's safe to assume XB will provide me a much better day-to-day experience with much faster downloads, more comfortable controller, quiet operation etc. I just need to get used to that IMO terrible design, I'm too spoiled with how good the X1X looks and how much punch it packs in that small, elegant case.

PS5 on the other hand, well, Sony lost me with the PS4, not only GT, which used to be the selling point for every previous PS system, went all the way downhill, but the lack of any other worthy exclusives compered to PSX/PS2/PS3 isn't helping at all. Plus the hardware itself - loud console, small/uncomfortable controller, and those awful download speeds, for someone who's digital only with 1Gbps connection and with game sizes being 60-150GB the PS Store is simply unacceptable. And the Sony's arrogance/laziness on top of everything else isn't convincing me either, politely speaking.
 
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