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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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IkarugaDE

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True leaks are always true at a certain time and circumstances.

Today, 9.2TF, is the only thing that PS5 does not have.

Now is at puberty.
He wants to express that the PS5 was in puberty when it still had 9.2TF. Today it is grown up.
 
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TLZ

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Btw: Why some persons here always have to look for strange reasons for everything? It may also be simple that they don't want to release anything yet, are waiting for trailers from developers, or simply want to make Microsoft the first move. This is not a prove for anything, neither for 9 nor 14TF.
Sony shook though.
 
True leaks are always true at a certain time and circumstances.

Today, 9.2TF, is the only thing that PS5 does not have.

Now is at puberty.
Holy hell . So this meme was correct ? 13 tf ps5?


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😂😂
 

Bo_Hazem

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Dolby Atmos has already been here for quite awhile on the Xbox One X. It’s also 4K and has decent framerates.

Sure Sony’s first party devs are talented, just as talented as they would be if they weren’t tethered to the PS brand. I don’t think it’s a valid excuse for the lackluster 9.2 hardware ***if*** that’s what everyone is getting. You guys would be getting a LOT more from those same talented devs if they had a comparable console to the XSX.

Are you serious? Let's see Spider-man (untethered) to Sony, one of the worst games I've played this gen:



Spider-man 2018, tethered to platform of greatness:



Games and titles thrive under Sony's umbrella, DON'T expect the same from a company like Microsoft.
 

SSfox

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AMD confirmed it too.

PS5 to have hardware based Ray Tracing.
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Hardware based Ray Tracing requires Next Gen RDNA AKA RDNA2.

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Does this mean PS5 is confirmed RDNA2?

Also i'm confuse, why some people say PS5 is not hardware ray tracing, while it was confirmed many times already that it's hardware ray tracing? What is up with that? I don't get it.
 
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pasterpl

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Are you serious? Let's see Spider-man (untethered) to Sony, one of the worst games I've played this gen:



Spider-man 2018, tethered to platform of greatness:



Games and titles thrive under Sony's umbrella, DON'T expect the same from a company like Microsoft.


there are some great games/series from Microsoft studios/published by Microsoft; halo, Aoe, halo wars, Alan wake, gears, forza, forza horizon, project gotham, fable Etc. Sony got more of these, but it is fanboy talk to say that Microsoft studios don’t make great games.
 

Bo_Hazem

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there are some great games/series from Microsoft studios/published by Microsoft; halo, Aoe, halo wars, Alan wake, gears, forza, forza horizon, project gotham, fable Etc. Sony got more of these, but it is fanboy talk to say that Microsoft studios don’t make great games.

"Had" great games, then milked the hell out of some like Gears, Forza, Halo.
 
You know just to play devil's advocate here.

Our most powerful marketing may not have anything to do with Sony in the long run, but rather to differentiate between the Series different skus power targets.

They would have surely had to come up with marketing for both products as to not confuse consumers. While they may not be talking about Lockhart, they are probably already using the preplanned Series X lines.

They may or may not know if they beat Sony in power, but their messaging might also not be about it.

Who knows...
 

SSfox

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I expect PS5 to be powerful, but not more powerful than Xbox. Something to keep in mind is the Price, I don't see Sony selling a console more than 500$. I alrady can't see Xbox less than 600$, so imagine PS5 price if its GPU is above 12TF.

Tho if the leak about 2 versions of PS5 will be true, that would be another story of course.
 
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psorcerer

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I would love for both consoles to not have any RT crap. But it looks like it is impossible.
It will cost you a lot in the PR war. And just adding some tiny changes to TX fixed path doesn't look that bad.
 

ethomaz

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Just so you guys know, someone from ResetEra compiled what Jason Schreier said about both consoles to this day, now the XSX specs turned out to be right, now we just wait for PS5 specs to come out (which I think he will be right again so PS5 = around 12 TFs).


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But people told me GitHub nobodyknowswhatwastested proved Jason was a lier :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

FeiRR

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This.

Plus.... true leaks always being true at some point means 9.2TF never was true as that is the only thing PS5 doesn't have today.

That is my interpretation. Not sure how feiRR deduced what they did......?
Come on, it was only a joke. However I find it very possible that they started with 9 TF and then moved on. Technology advances all the time, if they moved the launch by one year, it's just reasonable to move the specs because I'm sure the price was decided long before by high-up execs.

I think it was like that: "Hey, Mark Cerny, you have $450*. Go to AMD, work with them and make the best possible console for that money".

*) or whatever the BOM is
 

THE:MILKMAN

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I would love for both consoles to not have any RT crap. But it looks like it is impossible.
It will cost you a lot in the PR war. And just adding some tiny changes to TX fixed path doesn't look that bad.

I don't think they'll be an issue. The game Klee described sounds great (if you choose to believe) but the big difference in performance in RT on the consoles Osiris talked about was a little concerning.

Hopefully just a tools/dev software maturity issue.
 

JAMMA

Last warning for console wars
True leaks are always true at a certain time and circumstances.

Today, 9.2TF, is the only thing that PS5 does not have.

Now is at puberty.
They’ve been working on PS5 for 4 years! Being a 40 Year old virgin isn’t puberty!

It’s baked and done, now they’re just looking to hide behind the Coronavirus as their savior to avoid the major “flop” reveal.
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
Sony don’t have a monopoly on talent when it comes to games. Nobody does. Remember that talent has nothing to do with the console you are on or the performance of a console. If that was the case, Nintendo wouldn’t exist, and certainly wouldn’t have a far higher output of good first party titles than both consoles put together.

Also, while yes Sony do have an exceptionally high quality barrier, their games are still hit and miss with some. Hence why they get the third person story game meme. I don’t see it myself, not with games like Astrobot. But let’s not forget that MS have essentially got a lot of the main people on board for The Initiative from these companies that are so widely acclaimed. That’s the one I’m most excited to see what they are doing with.

I get it though, MS’s first party output this gen wasn’t just lacking, it was awful. Recore could have been amazing but didn’t have the budget or skill. Crackdown was actually a good game but was nothing that couldn’t be done on 360 (even worse after the cloud shit). Gears 4 was lacklustre but gears 5 was a great effort. And Forza Motorsport isn’t my thing so I can’t say, but forza horizon? 3 and 4 are easily two of the best games of the entire generation, but pointless if you don’t like racing games.

The biggest kick in the balls for MS is that they are quite honestly sitting on a GOLD MINE. Past ips they own are insane we haven’t got a new ones. Battletoads looks shit, banjo has been left to rot, perfect dark may come back (rumour), as may Fable, Kameo? Crimson Skies? Conker? Jade Empire? Blinx, Brute Force, Grabbed by the fuckin! Ghoulies even?!

They sit on all these ips are are doing bugger all with them... that much baffles my mind completely. Like how many years have people been crying out for a Banjo!!!
 
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psorcerer

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I don't think they'll be an issue. The game Klee described sounds great (if you choose to believe) but the big difference in performance in RT on the consoles Osiris talked about was a little concerning.

Hopefully just a tools/dev software maturity issue.

I don't follow this thread close enough to remember quotes by names.
But RT performance is shit and will be shit for a while. Even on PC.
 

IkarugaDE

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They’ve been working on PS5 for 4 years! Being a 40 Year old virgin isn’t puberty!

It’s baked and done, now they’re just looking to hide behind the Coronavirus as their savior to avoid the major “flop” reveal.
You really shouldn't complain about why so many users are shooting at you here. I already told you in detail yesterday what is the problem. Maybe you should take it to heart.
 

CthulhuPL

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I think there might be some ps5 news on March 4th. It is a good opportunity because on this day there is 20th anniversary of ps2 (greatest sony console) and to add up this article about Amd talking more about rdna2 on March 5th... (so a day later after sony news but not before as it would spoil the reveal). Maybe we will get somekind of article with specs and such just like Ms did with their "12tf" news?
 
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True leaks are always true at a certain time and circumstances.

Today, 9.2TF, is the only thing that PS5 does not have.

Now is at puberty.
I said it once, I will repeat it:
Patient developer: it's not 9.2
Users: ok
Users after two pages: however...
Users after five pages: I think that maybe...
Users after ten pages: GITHUB
VERY PATIENT developer: it's not 9.2
Users: ok... HOWEVER
 
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JAMMA

Last warning for console wars
You really shouldn't complain about why so many users are shooting at you here. I already told you in detail yesterday what is the problem. Maybe you should take it to heart.
So you’re telling me that you believe Sony isn’t playing the Coronavirus wildcard in their favor right now?

It’s not a pretty picture nor a classy move, but don’t shoot the messenger. If you find it to be as tasteless as it appears, you should complain to Playstation.
 
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THE:MILKMAN

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Come on, it was only a joke. However I find it very possible that they started with 9 TF and then moved on. Technology advances all the time, if they moved the launch by one year, it's just reasonable to move the specs because I'm sure the price was decided long before by high-up execs.

I think it was like that: "Hey, Mark Cerny, you have $450*. Go to AMD, work with them and make the best possible console for that money".

*) or whatever the BOM is

No probs but that joke missed by a country mile!

As for 9TF, like I said, my take of what BGs said is that 9.2TF never was a thing. Hopefully BGs could clarify this point?
 

nikolino840

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I expect PS5 to be powerful, but not more powerful than Xbox. Something to keep in mind is the Price, I don't see Sony selling a console more than 500$. I alrady can't see Xbox less than 600$, so imagine PS5 price if its GPU is above 12TF.

Tho if the leak about 2 versions of PS5 will be true, that would be another story of course.
The secret sauce Is the Yakuza mobs to keep the components price low for Sony 🤔😁
 

IkarugaDE

Member
So you’re telling me that you believe Sony isn’t playing the Coronavirus wildcard in their favor right now?

Don’t shoot the messenger.
You do not understand it. It's not about Sony, it's about your demeanor and your provocative posts here. Almost every post is filled with it. There is a difference between criticism, guesswork and claims / provocations related to it. It really doesn't have to be here.
 

M-V2

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Sony don’t have a monopoly on talent when it comes to games. Nobody does. Remember that talent has nothing to do with the console you are on or the performance of a console. If that was the case, Nintendo wouldn’t exist, and certainly wouldn’t have a far higher output of good first party titles than both consoles put together.

Also, while yes Sony do have an exceptionally high quality barrier, their games are still hit and miss with some. Hence why they get the third person story game meme. I don’t see it myself, not with games like Astrobot. But let’s not forget that MS have essentially got a lot of the main people on board for The Initiative from these companies that are so widely acclaimed. That’s the one I’m most excited to see what they are doing with.

I get it though, MS’s first party output this gen wasn’t just lacking, it was awful. Recore could have been amazing but didn’t have the budget or skill. Crackdown was actually a good game but was nothing that couldn’t be done on 360 (even worse after the cloud shit). Gears 4 was lacklustre but gears 5 was a great effort. And Forza isn’t my thing so I can’t say, but forza horizon? 3 and 4 are easily two of the best games of the entire generation, but pointless if you don’t like racing games.

The biggest kick in the balls for MS is that they are quite honestly sitting on a GOLD MINE. Past ips they own are insane we haven’t got a new ones. Battletoads looks shit, banjo has been left to rot, perfect dark may come back (rumour), as may Fable, Kameo? Crimson Skies? Conner? Jade Empire? Blinx, Brute Force, Grabbed by the fuckinf Ghoulies even?!

They sit on all these ips are are doing bugger all with them... that much baffles my mind completely. Like how many years have people been crying out for a Banjo!!!

What do you mean by hit or miss?? Almost all their games were great, they have tried different things & now they made on of the most unique games in the industry (Dreams)

Even days gone got 73 on metacritic which is a Good score, for me it was 8... What else? God of war, uncharted 4, bloodborne, infamous SS, until dawn, dreams, horizon zero Dawn, death Stranding, spidermanps4 & many others all were great games, what else? The lowest came from their 1st party studios was days gone which was pretty good imo, even tho the studio haven't made a Triple A game in 20 years (bend studio)
 
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