jackets with pockets
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I'll bet next week will also be like
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Gamernyc78
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Gamernyc78
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9.2 and 8 did not keep coming back in leaks, in what world? Most leaks had psv double digits and stronger than nextbox. Only leak tht had psv at 9 was github tht a few ppl ran with
Agnostic2020
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The extreme of both ends are fighting it out . 9TF with no raytracing is extreme Xbox fanboys and 14 tf non sense are extreme ps fanboys lol . This is the battle of extremes
Agnostic2020
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Can you send me the link the that post ? I can read anything from your picture . Thank uJust so you guys know, someone from ResetEra compiled what Jason Schreier said about both consoles to this day, now the XSX specs turned out to be right, now we just wait for PS5 specs to come out (which I think he will be right again so PS5 = around 12 TFs).
Koopatrol
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Happy March 1st! Wasn’t something supposed to happen in February? It’s all such a blur.
I may be dreaming or something because I wake up and see we are now down to 8tf and up to 14tf! Keep going lads, by the reveal lets see if we can hit gflop status and break the 20tf barrier!
Come on, I believe in you!
Wait... was something supposed to happen in February?! I can't recall anything...
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Wait... was something supposed to happen in February?! I can't recall anything...
To be fair, Carsberg virus put a stop to that. Damn thing made everybody drunk and forget they can’t do online shows, such a shame...
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B_Boss
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Why do members do the "self ban"? It seems silly to me but perhaps there is something I'm missing lol? Just stick around, stake your claim/make your wager/offer a hypothesis, etc., no need to ban oneself.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
B_Boss
making a self ban bet makes you sound more genuine to some. Why would you put your account on the line if you wasn’t sure about what you were talking about is real?!To be fair, putting a bet on a show date is simple, you can always just say “plans change”. With the virus putting stop to lots, it’s a golden ticket for some to make up anything. “Oh, PS5 doesn’t come with a free blow job? Well it did before the corona virus. Plans changed I guess!”
It’s why it’s a little bit more tricky than usual because, even though it’s a shitty thing to say, it’s also a LEGITIMATE reason that plans could change, so you’ll never know either way
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Mendou
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PocoJoe
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To be fair, putting a bet on a show date is simple, you can always just say “plans change”. With the virus putting stop to lots, it’s a golden ticket for some to make up anything. “Oh, PS5 doesn’t come with a free blow job? Well it did before the corona virus. Plans changed I guess!”
It’s why it’s a little bit more tricky than usual because, even though it’s a shitty thing to say, it’s also a LEGITIMATE reason that plans could change, so you’ll never know either way
Indeed. Way too many people are super gullible and that is how these trolls like tommy fisher operate. They throw these small hints and use these tricks to sounds a legimate to the gullible ones. Then these gullible people live in their bubble and when someone calls out "insiders" as liars/fake, their bubble cant burst so instead in their low IQ mind they think "they must be jealous because this "insider" is famous and legit, so they try to bash them because they are jealous"
While some people see if some one is probably a hoax from the first message they see, because some people just see through the lies and web of tricks they have built. First time I saw TFs message, I thought how the heck anybody can believe this troll. But too many fell for it.
And afterwards they still dont believe because in their bubble the "leaks" that "insider" told _after_ the data were publicly available = they remember it that "insider" told it before others.
It is funny and sad in the same time, just annoying that less smart, tech smart and logical people just dont shut the fuck up, instead of preaching their "insider" as new jesus.
And I bet that even after all this, these "plans change" excuses are 100% proof for the most bone head ones that "insiders" are real.
For fake-insider there is nothing to lose, if they claim "I get self ban if reveal is on february" and it happens by luck = worship
if it doesnt happen, they can still claim the plan changed etc, or just vanish = they lose nothing and they already gained months of joy from trolling.
Most logical and fair way would be to treat everyone as hoax/liars UNTIL official data is out, and then check whom said it first (if there is 100% trustworthy data that havent been altered afterwards) and even then it could be a lucky guess with some tech knowledge.
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Agnostic2020
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Fastest most powerful Xbox . Even last week in their investor call they referred to xsx as “our most powerful console “ far cry f rom the x1x marketing of most powerful console in the entire milky galaxy ever lolFast =/= power.
xool
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4TF seems way low for that 32CU number from the guthub leak. I have no idea, just saying..
In any case, Richard said in last DF video that IO Interactive is testing their game on 9.2TF GPU profile. Hmm... (I didnt listen to it, it was posted on Ree)
PS5 and Xbox Series speculation |OT11| Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Dogs of War [NEW NEWS, NEW THREAD - CHECK OUT THE STAFF POST]
What I find interesting is that in the latest DF video on whether 4TF Lockart could be a viable next-gen box, is that Richard once again talked about IOInteractive testing their game on 9.2TF GPU profile. While I did not put much stock in the 9.2TF rumour, I would not be surprised if that is...www.resetera.com
Both 9 and 12TF won't go away for PS5 yet.
What if it's Sony that has two consoles - a 9TF base (which would be fine, esp for 1080p), and a 12TF "pro" (targetting 4k) - give VRS and reduced need for AA at 4K that 3TF difference might be enough for subjective 4k quality..
I know it's a small difference, but it could mean they hit a $399 (or lower) price, whilst still having a premium offer. And the difference isn't so great as to piss off devs (as much)...
Makes sense to me right now
JAMMA
Last warning for console wars
Once again, confident that the PS5 will be in the 9 range. They done fucked up and everyone will probably have to wait for a pro.
They’re probably delaying all reveals so that they can crunch numbers and figure out what they’re going to promise for this “pro” that doesn’t exist yet.
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Gudji
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Trolling on what? The cards XSX and PS5 are getting aren't even top of the line AMD.
Both NVIDIA and AMD will be releasing new cards this year and both will make the consoles look like "mid-range" when it comes to numbers. Wait and see!
It's still newer tech than what PS4 and XBO got though, at least that's a plus.
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FeiRR
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Maybe because PS5 kits aren't final so they can't be sure if their console is faster or not. Which would be another confirmation of a very narrow gap between them. You can't go from 9 to 12 TF just like that but you can go 11 to 12 (or the opposite).
Still, I believe that Microsoft will find a way to spin the numbers and put asterisks to them if they end up even a tenth of TF lower. They are the masters of FUD and Penello's activity online suggests they haven't stopped those juvenile practices.
I personally don't care much about the exact TF number. Sure, I want 4K graphics and stable framerates but what is far more exciting than GPU speed for me is a fast CPU and better audio. Talented devs from Sony's first party studios will make games look absolutely amazing at the end of the generation. We're finally getting balanced systems with much fewer bottlenecks than this gen.
M1chl
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So much desperation in here, when you are using to support your argument with some PR shit. And again FAST = POWER, in computational performance something like aerodynamic does not exist. Higher clocks does not mean better performance, if your architecture sucks. It's most likely means more heat, which is scary thought with how garbage cooling is/was with PS4s.
I agree with you aside from MS practices, because we are long way from X1 launch, because MS higher-ups are different people. Albert Pennelo is no longer in MS and MS already put out those numbers, so I don't think they can spin them in any way. Only one who suck is that fatass Greenberg.
And Dolby Atmos (which is sadly payed for headphones) is pretty awesome already : )
I agree with you aside from MS practices, because we are long way from X1 launch, because MS higher-ups are different people. Albert Pennelo is no longer in MS and MS already put out those numbers, so I don't think they can spin them in any way. Only one who suck is that fatass Greenberg.
And Dolby Atmos (which is sadly payed for headphones) is pretty awesome already : )
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LED Guy?
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Here you go.
PS5 and Xbox Series speculation |OT11| Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Dogs of War [NEW NEWS, NEW THREAD - CHECK OUT THE STAFF POST]
Richard about 4TF Lockhart: cc DukeBlueBall 😉
www.resetera.com
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JAMMA
Last warning for console wars
Dolby Atmos has already been here for quite awhile on the Xbox One X. It’s also 4K and has decent framerates.
Sure Sony’s first party devs are talented, just as talented as they would be if they weren’t tethered to the PS brand. I don’t think it’s a valid excuse for the lackluster 9.2 hardware ***if*** that’s what everyone is getting. You guys would be getting a LOT more from those same talented devs if they had a comparable console to the XSX.
Sure Sony’s first party devs are talented, just as talented as they would be if they weren’t tethered to the PS brand. I don’t think it’s a valid excuse for the lackluster 9.2 hardware ***if*** that’s what everyone is getting. You guys would be getting a LOT more from those same talented devs if they had a comparable console to the XSX.
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DJ12
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Xbox fans tears will be able to solve drought issues across the world if they keep misreading Microsoft pr statements like this.
Our most powerful is the mantra not the most powerful.
It's a given xbox series x is their most powerful console, it's a nothing statement meant to confuse the semi retarded and downright dumb cool-aid drinkers into believing they mean it's more powerful than ps5.
It may turn out to be true and then we will see a marketing change for sure, but ms certainly dont have the confidence to say that at the moment, which I personally find very telling as it's fairly certain both are fully aware of each others specs at this point.
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it_wasn't_me
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it_wasn't_me
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If said numeruos here, spec sheet are provided at least a year earlier to devs :
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FeiRR
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I agree. I think I'd prefer a bit slower console but without that terrible whine which my PS4 Pro does right now. Rumours about Sony going for custom, efficient cooling are good news for me.
I know I'm biased but I've been watching them do that for 30 years and I have a hard time believing they'll just stop right now. But I really hope you're right and that constant beating in the console market brought them to senses.
I have a Dolby Atmos sticker on my tablet which has two small speakers. Sure, they are very good for their size but it's just a marketing gimmick. Next gen we're talking about physical rendering of sound in-engine, not spatial simulation done through speakers afterwards. It'll be much better because you'll be able to enjoy that without dedicated headphones or speakers which cost a fortune.
IkarugaDE
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Sorry to say that, but it's very naive to think that. Sony, MS and Nintendo are professionals in the business and know more about the others than you might think and have so far come to the public. You pretend that Sony was only surprised by the publication of the technical data of the XSX. You can be sure that this is definitely not the case. If sony has noticed that they screwed it up they will have known it for months. So enough time to react to it. The delay will not be due to the new games (Dreams, TLOUS2) or the SX.
Btw: Why some persons here always have to look for strange reasons for everything? It may also be simple that they don't want to release anything yet, are waiting for trailers from developers, or simply want to make Microsoft the first move. This is not a prove for anything, neither for 9 nor 14TF.
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FeiRR
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Hey Xbox guy, could you point me to a title which shows the power of Xbox? I don't have the console but a PC and GamePass so this should be comparable. Something which uses the power for more than upres and refresh rate.
JAMMA
Last warning for console wars
I believe in the GitHub leaks. They’ve proven true so far.
Sony probably went with a traditional console form factor that’s too late to change and as such have shot themselves in the foot.
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it_wasn't_me
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So no ray tracing in PS5. Thanks!
SirTerry-T
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Both firms are and have been guilty of spreading the same bullshit in the past, present and no doubt still will in the future. That's what the marketing departments get paid for.
trancefreak64
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March 5th we should gets some AMD RDNA 2 news.
"AMD will “talk more” about RDNA 2, its next-generation GPU architecture, during its upcoming Financial Analyst Day. Building on the RDNA architecture introduced with AMD’s Navi graphics cards over the past seven months, the chipmaker is promising to spill the beans on its 7nm, ray-traced successor on March 5, 2020."
"RDNA is the name of AMD’s most recently launched GPU architecture. Built from the ground up for gaming on the 7nm process node from TSMC, it’s currently available in the RX 5700, RX 5600, and RX 5500 series graphics cards. RDNA 2, the company’s new and improved gaming architecture, is expected to land in refreshed gaming graphics cards and consoles (Xbox Series X and PS5) later this year."
After reading this article it looks like all future AMD products, and Next Gen consoles released later this year are refreshed RDNA 2. Interesting read.
www-pcgamesn-com.cdn.ampproject.org
"AMD will “talk more” about RDNA 2, its next-generation GPU architecture, during its upcoming Financial Analyst Day. Building on the RDNA architecture introduced with AMD’s Navi graphics cards over the past seven months, the chipmaker is promising to spill the beans on its 7nm, ray-traced successor on March 5, 2020."
"RDNA is the name of AMD’s most recently launched GPU architecture. Built from the ground up for gaming on the 7nm process node from TSMC, it’s currently available in the RX 5700, RX 5600, and RX 5500 series graphics cards. RDNA 2, the company’s new and improved gaming architecture, is expected to land in refreshed gaming graphics cards and consoles (Xbox Series X and PS5) later this year."
After reading this article it looks like all future AMD products, and Next Gen consoles released later this year are refreshed RDNA 2. Interesting read.
AMD will unveil RDNA 2 graphics cards on March 5
AMD will “talk more” about RDNA 2 on March 5
www-pcgamesn-com.cdn.ampproject.org
JAMMA
Last warning for console wars
RDNA+
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Regarding Dolby Atmos, I think it works exeptionally well on Xbox when it comes to sound separating positioning and that's with headphone. I don't have the sound system for that, obviously. It's way too much work. I somewhat have it on my Galaxy phone and well, I am not even sure what does it do : D
When it comest spatial simulation a psychical rendering of sound, we have these technologies for almost a 20 years, but sadly MS killed them with Win Vista/7 I believe. Due to some system layer. It's shame. I am still rocking old ass X-FI Elite Pro and something like EAX effect cannot be even turned on no longer. It's shame...
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
RDNA X.
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B_Boss
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Wtf eats peanut butter ice cream anyway
Nyc are you seriously kidding
??? Dude, head to a shake shack fast food joint, get their peanut butter shake. Unless peanut butter grosses you out or you suffer allergies from it, you're welcome. Greatest ice cream flavor on earth.
zubairali2
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March 5th we should gets some AMD RDNA 2 news.
"AMD will “talk more” about RDNA 2, its next-generation GPU architecture, during its upcoming Financial Analyst Day. Building on the RDNA architecture introduced with AMD’s Navi graphics cards over the past seven months, the chipmaker is promising to spill the beans on its 7nm, ray-traced successor on March 5, 2020."
"RDNA is the name of AMD’s most recently launched GPU architecture. Built from the ground up for gaming on the 7nm process node from TSMC, it’s currently available in the RX 5700, RX 5600, and RX 5500 series graphics cards. RDNA 2, the company’s new and improved gaming architecture, is expected to land in refreshed gaming graphics cards and consoles (Xbox Series X and PS5) later this year."
After reading this article it looks like all future AMD products, and Next Gen consoles released later this year are refreshed RDNA 2. Interesting read.
AMD will unveil RDNA 2 graphics cards on March 5
AMD will “talk more” about RDNA 2 on March 5
so ps5 news next week is looking more likely?
Gudji
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March 5th we should gets some AMD RDNA 2 news.
"AMD will “talk more” about RDNA 2, its next-generation GPU architecture, during its upcoming Financial Analyst Day. Building on the RDNA architecture introduced with AMD’s Navi graphics cards over the past seven months, the chipmaker is promising to spill the beans on its 7nm, ray-traced successor on March 5, 2020."
"RDNA is the name of AMD’s most recently launched GPU architecture. Built from the ground up for gaming on the 7nm process node from TSMC, it’s currently available in the RX 5700, RX 5600, and RX 5500 series graphics cards. RDNA 2, the company’s new and improved gaming architecture, is expected to land in refreshed gaming graphics cards and consoles (Xbox Series X and PS5) later this year."
After reading this article it looks like all future AMD products, and Next Gen consoles released later this year are refreshed RDNA 2. Interesting read.
AMD will unveil RDNA 2 graphics cards on March 5
AMD will “talk more” about RDNA 2 on March 5
Usman from WCCFTECH said both consoles will be RDNA2 last year:
AMD 'Big' Navi GPU Passes RRA Certification - Powerful New High-End Radeon Flagship?
After what seems like ages, there seems to be news on the high-end AMD GPU front. An AMD device codenamed "ATI-102-D18802" recently passed RRA certification and while this might seem like just a random string of digits, I used to trawl the now-dead Zauba all day long for relevant shipping...
wccftech.com
So far everything that guy said about NAVI and consoles has been right on the money.
LED Guy?
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bitbydeath
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Usman from WCCFTECH said both consoles will be RDNA2 last year:
AMD 'Big' Navi GPU Passes RRA Certification - Powerful New High-End Radeon Flagship?
After what seems like ages, there seems to be news on the high-end AMD GPU front. An AMD device codenamed "ATI-102-D18802" recently passed RRA certification and while this might seem like just a random string of digits, I used to trawl the now-dead Zauba all day long for relevant shipping...
So far everything that guy said about NAVI and consoles has been right on the money.
AMD confirmed it too.
PS5 to have hardware based Ray Tracing.
Hardware based Ray Tracing requires Next Gen RDNA AKA RDNA2.
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FeiRR
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I challenge that opinion with salty caramel vodkaNyc are you seriously kidding
IkarugaDE
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It has been said here several times: There were enough indications (even from MS directly) that you can expect 12TF. Even RDNA2 wasn't a tough bet. Therefore, every leak should be viewed with a good deal of skepticism, no matter where it comes from.
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xool
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What if the new-Pro is cheaper (and runs PS5 games at 1080p..)
I like this.
What if it's Sony's "Lockhart" .. a 1080p machine, maybe with a Zen2 CPU so it can do PS5 games at the lower resolution.
theory - they need to test (github) hardware backwards compatability modes because it's not powerful to do it in software like the PS5 - I know this theory is full of holes, but I like it.
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wowbaggerBR
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And Lockhart with 56 CU GPU!
Care to expand on that? What has been proven from that repo?
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JAMMA
Last warning for console wars
YO!! This is just delusion right there
SgtCaffran
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Nice! So it looks like PS5 is almost RDNA2 confirmed! Was to be expected with Ray tracing and VRS of course but still.
Wouldn't be surprised if the base APU tech in both PS5 and XsX is identical. Differences will probably stem from the cooling solutions and maybe some small CU differences.
Compared to the last generation it feels we're really getting two equal consoles, a win for all gamers!
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THE:MILKMAN
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