I’m sorry, maybe I misunderstood your post. Is English not your first language?
At this point Klee has not been right about anything, cause he has not said any definitive statements that can be confirmed or denied at this point.
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At this point Klee has not been right about anything, cause he has not said any definitive statements that can be confirmed or denied at this point.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
NovaMonbasa leaked 12TF/4TF for XSX/XSS in January 2019. Benji Sales said 12TF for PS5 in April 2019.
From what I've seen, all other insiders are riding these guys' coattails with info that comes 7-11 months after these leaks.
From what I've seen, all other insiders are riding these guys' coattails with info that comes 7-11 months after these leaks.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
If you know they are closer, why don't you do a first for insiders and ... Just. Tell. How. Close? Is it like a secret rule of insiders to only tell that you know, but never what exactly you know?
I think Benji said close to 13TF dev kits (which were, I think Vega based).
In any case, NovaMombasa also posted PS5 specs and said it was delayed "maybe because of BC".
In any case, Richard said in last DF video that IO Interactive is testing their game on 9.2TF GPU profile. Hmm... (I didnt listen to it, it was posted on Ree)
PS5 and Xbox Series speculation |OT11| Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Dogs of War [NEW NEWS, NEW THREAD - CHECK OUT THE STAFF POST]
What I find interesting is that in the latest DF video on whether 4TF Lockart could be a viable next-gen box, is that Richard once again talked about IOInteractive testing their game on 9.2TF GPU profile. While I did not put much stock in the 9.2TF rumour, I would not be surprised if that is...
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ethomaz
Banned
At this point everything that is confirmed was said by Klee before.
So yes he is right for now.
But others “insiders” are right too.
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gaming_noob
Member
Guys please take a second to look at this
Ps5 no raytracing 8TF etc.. and Xbox community refer to him as insiderhe thinks xss is better than ps5 cause ps5 has no raytracing . Lol
You bring up this fool + mistermedia et al more than all of the Xbots combined in this thread.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I have used the number within 10% of each other all along and I still stand by that.
Again. What definitive statement has Klee made that has been confirmed at this point?
DigitalFoundry are in Microsoft pocket.I think Benji said close to 13TF dev kits (which were, I think Vega based).
In any case, NovaMombasa also posted PS5 specs and said it was delayed "maybe because of BC".
In any case, Richard said in last DF video that IO Interactive is testing their game on 9.2TF GPU profile. Hmm... (I didnt listen to it, it was posted on Ree)
PS5 and Xbox Series speculation |OT11| Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Dogs of War [NEW NEWS, NEW THREAD - CHECK OUT THE STAFF POST]
What I find interesting is that in the latest DF video on whether 4TF Lockart could be a viable next-gen box, is that Richard once again talked about IOInteractive testing their game on 9.2TF GPU profile. While I did not put much stock in the 9.2TF rumour, I would not be surprised if that is...
i wonder, whats the average age on this forum?! There are a lot of stupid things in the comments.
I am curious what will hapen with all this nonsens 4-6-9TF after the reveal of Sony.
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ethomaz
Banned
What he said about Xbox was confirmed right.
C’mon.
The opposite is true too... you can’t spot for now any Klee claim being wrong because what you can confirm right now he is right.
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LED Guy?
Banned
Wow man....he clearly said his developer friend told him they are more powerful than RX 5700 XT meaning having more TFlops, there's nothing like connecting stories here nor anything like that.
Klee said both have more TFlops than RX 5700 XT and more features and in RDNA TFs.
You can try to discredit him all the time but that won't change facts and what he said was proven correct.
No. Be specific please.
hemo memo
Gold Member
LED Guy?
Banned
Klee and Matt both denied the Oberon leak.
LED Guy?
Banned
So PS5 = 13 TFs. XSX = 12 TFs.
Mass Shift
Member
He was the first person I heard telling Xbox gamers to keep their eyes open for something from MS during the VGAs.
His hardware quotes are sketchy but they were still in the ballpark. So far he's right about at least one console being in the double digits. If the PS5 is DD as well he would have called it a long way out before anyone else did.
No, “more powerful” does not mean “more flops”
That’s the meaning that you have applied to his comment.
Literally anyone who has said anything about these console has said they’d be more powerful than a 5700.
Why are you so desperate to give Klee credit?
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
But if I remember correctly for the longest time you said both were around 10 TF. So with XSX being confirmed at 12, how does that fit in the overall picture?
Agnostic2020
Member
He believes xsx is ahead . So 11 tf and 12 tf
hemo memo
Gold Member
Xbox in the lead. So less not more.
Gamernyc78
Banned
LED Guy?
Banned
He did say it has more Flops, damn man.
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Fake
Member
For higher or lesser, 11~12 or 12~13... Maybe 11.5~12, 12~12.5
Unless 10% differencial = 8TF x 12TF
LED Guy?
Banned
OK guys, just to remind you, this is what Jason Schreier said in December before the 12 TFs for Xbox Series X came, this is the link to the podcast.
podcasts.google.com
Timestamp from 38:10 till 38:50.
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Timestamp from 38:10 till 38:50.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
It was an open secret that Microsoft would tease a game, Matt Booty had an interview at X019 in middle of November where he said they had so many games in development that they would just casually announce them any chance they get. That game turned out to be Hellblade 2. If that is the low bar to make somebody an insider in your mind, I don't know what to tell you.
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
ethomaz
Banned
lol
PS4 BC
Xbox One Series X having double digits TFs
Xbox One Series X is 12TFs
Now show me what he said is false? You can’t because he did not say anything wrong until now.
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Agnostic2020
Member
I have never posted anything related to mister media like ever. And for the blue guy i posted his tweets 2 times to show how ridiclous and out of touch with reality he is , only because he was posted as a source about ps5 power a week ago .
gaming_noob
Member
Nah u not on my ignore list yet
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Fatal Enigma
Member
Thats a good question. Going hard at it even after he posted he was done talking about insiders a couple days ago. Seriously
THE:MILKMAN
Member
Can I try and change the subject a little?
Are there any clever technical peeps here that have any idea of what the internal layout of the XSX will be? I'm thinking 2/3rds up could be the motherboard that contains most everything like APU/RAM/SSD etc plus HSF/Vapour Chamber with the fan connected to the top of the case as we've seen. Then ribbon cable(s) down to the bottom rear for the I/O and a power supply cable similar/same as we see on One S/X.
Would that be realistic at all? Silly? Down right stupid?
Maybe some graphics experts could mock-up some internal layout pictures...? I'm just not good enough with paint.
Are there any clever technical peeps here that have any idea of what the internal layout of the XSX will be? I'm thinking 2/3rds up could be the motherboard that contains most everything like APU/RAM/SSD etc plus HSF/Vapour Chamber with the fan connected to the top of the case as we've seen. Then ribbon cable(s) down to the bottom rear for the I/O and a power supply cable similar/same as we see on One S/X.
Would that be realistic at all? Silly? Down right stupid?
Maybe some graphics experts could mock-up some internal layout pictures...? I'm just not good enough with paint.
Really? Come on man. That’s about as easy as it gets. It’s the VGAs, obviously Xbox fans should be excited.
Again, plenty of people speculated similar numbers we’ll before he did.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
OK guys, just to remind you, this is what Jason Schreier said in December before the 12 TFs for Xbox Series X came, this is the link to the podcast.
Google Podcasts
With Google Podcasts, you can find and listen to the world's podcasts for free.
Timestamp from 38:10 till 38:50.
Yeah, I hear it. "I believe, don't hold me to this, rumor mongers out there, I think they are both more powerful than a RTX 2080." And now? Based on teraflops, a 2080 is between 8.9 and 10 TF (10 in boost mode, 8.9 in normal mode). So a 9.2 TF PS5 would fit his estimate. Which is just that, he doesn't know, he believes it based on what he heard and read on places like Era, where he actively writes in the speculation thread and of course knows what Klee said.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
I thought that as well. However, if PS5 ends up 12-13TF, then Benji should get the credit for leaking it. At least from what I've seen, he was the first to put an actual number on it, and not some vague comment that could be anywhere from 9-14TF.
That's the context of my posts about this and why I've been asking for specific, numbered predictions/leaks that predate Jan 2019 and April 2019. Everything afterwards could just be coattail riding.
JAMMA
Last warning for console wars
I thought you said that it was 10-15%?
it_wasn't_me
Banned
Just to laugh at them. It's fun. And as a reminder
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Guys please take a second to look at this
Ps5 no raytracing 8TF etc.. and Xbox community refer to him as insider
Anyone who believes and pushes this cult like shit deserves all the ridicule they receive.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
any true gamer wants both consoles to do well. Both in terms of sales and power. Healthy competition is good for the industry. With Nintendo effectively releasing handhelds that are as powerful as 2005 consoles they are as irrelevant as a console maker can be to hardcore gamers. We need both Sony and ms to push each other.
A 9 tflops console that has to handle ray tracing, destruction and other physics heavy effects jaguar cpus didn't allow this gen is going to crumble under the stress of running these games at 4k60.
Every Xbox fan knows this. Their agenda is so obvious and yet they think they are being cute.
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Fake
Member
Of course not. Everyone stated 10% differencial should get credit.
ethomaz
Banned
Fixed.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Klee only said that X is 12 TF (and PS5 too) after Microsoft said X is 2x One X and everybody assumed that they meant 12 TF (well, aside from a bunch of people that thought they meant GCN equivalent TF, LOL). That's the very first time he said 12. Before that it was always only 10+. He later said that target specs were always 12+, but then why didn't he say so since summer when he first came up with 10+? Surely knowing 12+ would have been much more impressive and relevant back then?
PS4 BC was announced by Mark Cerny in April in the Wired article. But nice try giving that to Klee.
DJ12
Member
Don't think he's ever put a tflop on it, think your are confusing his consistent 10% as 10 tflops
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
He just said that X is in the lead. You have a really bad reading comprehension. I bet you are really confused right now, yes? Your boy Klee is saying X at 12, PS5 ahead, Heisenberg X at 12, PS5 10 % behind, what do you do, who is right?
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TLZ
Banned
That's BS and you know it. For the longest time 10 TF were seen as highly likely for XSX and only 8TF for PS5 by Team Green. Only when XSX was rumored to be 12 TF did the messaging change and Team Green started to talk about PS5 can only do 9 TF max. They only do it because it means PS5 is lower. It's not a positive standpoint, it's pathetic.
There. That sums up this thread for me.
ethomaz
Banned
You are so funny.
I will prepare the crow if his PS5 claim turn out true too.
He nailed 12 TFs for Xbox and some others things... maybe he is just that lucky.
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pharmboy044
Member
I'd like to know why IOInteractive is using a 9.2 Teraflop GPU profile for their game?
David Ricardo
Member
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Yea, it has, Sparkman APU (in fact, Sparkman/Arden even have AKD employee names assigned for each GPU block thats gonna go through test) Can't find much about that - someone on a Ree thread saying 32CU's which wouldn't have been that weak, not the 4TF thing somepeople talk about .. 6-7 I'd...
LED Guy?
Banned
Calm down man, just calm down, Heisenberg FX4 said before that PS5 is ahead now, but he still thinks XSX will be ahead of it in the end.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
That's BS. I believed in 12 TF since I read the Reddit leak in January. Which was at the end of January, when somebody showed me the imgur. It was always 12 TF XSX for me and always 8 TF PS5, until Oberon showed a 9.2 TF PS5. Reddit leak was spot on (I suppose it was Albert Penello, because whoever it was had huge insight), later verified by Oberon leak and then by AMD leak. Those are the constants, the actual truths that were known before anybody else had that knowledge. I think the only thing in the Reddit leak that was publicly known at that point in time was that Bleeding Edge exists.
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