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[CrustyBritches]

Of course not. Everyone stated 10% differencial should get credit.

I disagree because that could mean anything and to guess they'll be close would mean the majority of people. We already had 12TF and "nearly 13TF" in January and April 2019. That's the baseline. I've asked for specific leaks predating these numbers and haven't seen anything yet. It's not some rhetorical question, do you have any leaks that predate those 2? I'm genuinely curious. I'm not interested in debating your comment about the 10% differential. Please don't respond if that's your intent. With all due respect and friendliness.

 

[Fatal Enigma]

Calm down man, just calm down, Heisenberg FX4 said before that PS5 is ahead now, but he still thinks XSX will be ahead of it in the end.

The moral to this is: Every insider has a different number and they fluctuate randomly from what I've seen

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

I guess not then....!

 

[DaMonsta]

lol

PS4 BC
Xbox One Series X having double digits TFs
Xbox One Series X is 12TFs

Now show me what he said is false? You can’t because he did not say anything wrong until now.

What? Sony said they’d have BC for PS4 a long time ago.
Plenty of people said Xbox would be “double digits” before he did.
Microsoft themselves confirmed 12TF before he did.

Everything he’s been “right” about has been long speculated and confirmed before he said it. If that’s all it takes, then we are all “insiders”

As for him being wrong. He was 100% definitive in saying Lockhart was canceled. We know he was wrong about that. He also said PS5 reveal would be in February. In a couple hours he will be wrong about that too.

And my goal isn’t to discredit him in comparison to any other insider. I just see so many people in this thread giving him undue credit and treating his word as 100% fact to the point were they ridicule other users for being skeptical, and would like to set the record straight so we can move past that in this thread.

 

[LED Guy?]

No he did not.

He said “more powerful”

It was just posted in this thread.

He asked his developer friend "they're double digits" then he said "so more powerful than RX 5700 XT" THEN the developers nodded his head saying "yes", what more do you want?

This here outright means they have more TFlops than RX 5700 XT which 9.75 TFs. Stop it, just stop it.....are you that obtuse or something?

 

[R600]

OK guys, just to remind you, this is what Jason Schreier said in December before the 12 TFs for Xbox Series X came, this is the link to the podcast.

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Timestamp from 38:10 till 38:50.

"Dont hold me on my word..."

> Holds you on your word

 

[ethomaz]

What? Sony said they’d have BC for PS4 a long time ago.
Plenty of people said Xbox would be “double digits” before he did.
Microsoft themselves confirmed 12TF before he did.

Everything he’s been “right” about has been long speculated and confirmed before he said it. If that’s all it takes, then we are all “insiders”

As for him being wrong. He was 100% definitive in saying Lockhart was canceled. We know he was wrong about that. He also said PS5 reveal would be in February. In a couple hours he will be wrong about that too.

And my goal isn’t to discredit him in comparison to any other insider. I just see so many people in this thread giving him undue credit and treating his word as 100% fact to the point were they ridicule other users for being skeptical, and would like to set the record straight so we can move past that in this thread.

Nope.
He said all the claims before any MS revealed them.
And he was right.

He is indeed credible not just now but from before too.

You don’t want to believe him we get it and you don’t need it.
But to claim he is wrong when he is not is really funny.

If he end being right about PS5 too what you will say?

 

[LED Guy?]

The moral to this is: Every insider has a different number and they fluctuate randomly from what I've seen

That's because there's thing that fluctuates and it's called.......a Development Kit.

 

[LED Guy?]

"Dont hold me on my word..."

> Holds you on your word

Well, XSX is more powerful than RTX 2080, so we're just waiting for PS5.

 

[David Ricardo]

Calm down man, just calm down, Heisenberg FX4 said before that PS5 is ahead now, but he still thinks XSX will be ahead of it in the end.

Kleegamefan said Series X was 12 TF RDNA 2 months ago. Heisenberg knows nothing.

 

[Fake]

I disagree because that could mean anything and to guess they'll be close would mean the majority of people. We already had 12TF and "nearly 13TF" in January and April 2019. That's the baseline. I've asked for specific leaks predating these numbers and haven't seen anything yet. It's not some rhetorical question, do you have any leaks that predate those 2? I'm genuinely curious. I'm not interested in debating your comment about the 10% differential. Please don't respond if that's your intent. With all due respect and friendliness.

Honest question... Are you OK mate? For one moment your post sounds more like a threat.
Anw, I still believe anyone before Benji that stated 10% should get the credit. We can't sure how much people already have those numbers or if they have the right to show numbers before anyone. Again, 10% should be for higher or lower, we don't even know if seX is locked 12TF or some broken numbers like 12.1 or 12.3. Only when release we can rest sure piece by piece.
You stated your point and I stated my. No big deal. Not saying you're wrong, just that I don't agree.
Keep calm dude. Speculation thread remember? Nobody will earn a gold trophy for being right.

 

[DaMonsta]

Nope.
He said all the claims before any MS reveal.
And he was right.

He is indeed credible not just now but from before too.

You don’t want to believe him we get it and you don’t need it.
But to claim he is wrong when he is not is really funny.

If he end being right about PS5 too what you will say?

I mean, you can believe what you want. But all the info is out there with dates and your belief is factually incorrect. Do with that what you will.

As for him being “right” about PS5 again lots of rumors well before him said PS5 was “slightly” more powerful

So I don’t know what he even could be “right” about when it comes to PS5

He asked his developer friend "they're double digits" then he said "so more powerful than RX 5700 XT" THEN the developers nodded his head saying "yes", what more do you want?

This here outright means they have more TFlops than RX 5700 XT which 9.75 TFs. Stop it, just stop it.....are you that obtuse or something?

You keep going in circles.

For the last time “more powerful” is not the same as “more flops”

 

[Fake]

The moral to this is: Every insider has a different number and they fluctuate randomly from what I've seen

That is the result of different dev kits.

 

[JAMMA]

That's because there's thing that fluctuates and it's called.......a Development Kit.

It’s called your sense of reality.

 

[Fatal Enigma]

That's because there's thing that fluctuates and it's called.......a Development Kit.

Your goalpost will move to fit whatever reality you'll accept. Its hilarious

These devkits undergo a change weekly if thats true

 

[ksdixon]

Did we ever hear any more on this patent from Sony?

https://img.digitaltrends.com/image/sony-patent-1487345867104_610w-720x720.jpg

 

[ethomaz]

I mean, you can believe what you want. But all the info is out there with dates and your belief is factually incorrect. Do with that what you will.

As for him being “right” about PS5 again lots of rumors well before him said PS5 was “slightly” more powerful

So I don’t know what he even could be “right” about when it comes to PS5

You keep going in circles.

For the last time “more powerful” is not the same as “more flops”

It is funny the damage control even before know he is right

 

[R600]

I'd like to know why IOInteractive is using a 9.2 Teraflop GPU profile for their game?

Good question...

 

[Fatal Enigma]

That is the result of different dev kits.

These devkits iterations do not change as often as insiders numbers do. Comeon man

 

[Fake]

Did we ever hear any more on this patent from Sony?

https://img.digitaltrends.com/image/sony-patent-1487345867104_610w-720x720.jpg

If I remember right, one feedback page from Sony mention that.

These devkits iterations do not change as often as insiders numbers do. Comeon man

How do you know? Unless you're telling me some are insiders and others not.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Honest question... Are you OK mate? For one moment your post sounds more like a threat.

You stated your point and I stated my. No big deal. Not saying you're wrong, just that I don't agree.
Keep calm dude. Speculation thread remember? Nobody will earn a gold trophy for being right.

I said with all due respect and friendliness to clarify that it's not my intent to be rude. You're not a primary english speaker if I remember correctly, so I wanted to establish that. My participation on this subject is purely to establish the timeline. That's why I don't want to debate your comment. It doesn't establish a number, nor a date. I like you and appreciate your contributions. Please don't misunderstand.

To tell me to "keep calm" is inappropriate in light of how respectful and friendly I was. I believe this comes down to difference in languages. Regardless, let's just agree to disagree, my friend. If you have leaks with specific numbers and date, feel free to tag me.

 

[darkinstinct]

He asked his developer friend "they're double digits" then he said "so more powerful than RX 5700 XT" THEN the developers nodded his head saying "yes", what more do you want?

This here outright means they have more TFlops than RX 5700 XT which 9.75 TFs. Stop it, just stop it.....are you that obtuse or something?

Radeon 5700 XT is between 8.2 and 9.75 TF. Like ... a 9.2.

 

[LED Guy?]

Your goalpost will move to fit whatever reality you'll accept. Its hilarious

These devkits undergo a change weekly if thats true

It’s called your sense of reality.

Alright guys, calm down LOL!! This is just a speculation thread

But dev kits do change a lot.

 

[LED Guy?]

You keep going in circles.

For the last time “more powerful” is not the same as “more flops”

Read what I wrote, you are clearly in denial, he said it has more TFlops so it is more powerful, you're just being obtuse at this point.

 

[Fatal Enigma]

Alright guys, calm down LOL!! This is just a speculation thread

But dev kits do change a lot.

How alot? Please tell how often. Daily, few days, weekly?

 

[MarkMe2525]

No it is not, despite you trying to pretend it is the same. It would still paint a bad picture on that side because they would both be gloating and trying to spread F.U.D. on the competition.

This goes both ways, stop trying to play the victim here. 6 months ago the narrative was Xbox is stuck with Vega gpu because Sony had Navi exclusivity. It's called confirmation bias. It's not anyone's fault. It's just how our brains work. We reject information that goes against our bias and we accept info that agrees with it bias. Nothing new.

 

[darkinstinct]

I'd like to know why IOInteractive is using a 9.2 Teraflop GPU profile for their game?

No, you know exactly why.

 

[LED Guy?]

Radeon 5700 XT is between 8.2 and 9.75 TF. Like ... a 9.2.

Yeah both consoles have more than 9.75 TF as Klee confirmed, so PS5 is more than that, just like XSX i smore than that.

You guys are really just being blind on purpose, there's no way you guys are functioning right.

 

[LED Guy?]

How alot? Please tell how often. Daily, few days, weekly?

3 to 4 times? That's a lot in my book.

 

[Fake]

I said with all due respect and friendliness to clarify that it's not my intent to be rude. You're not a primary english speaker if I remember correctly, so I wanted to establish that. My participation on this subject is purely to establish the timeline. That's why I don't want to debate your comment. It doesn't establish a number, nor a date. I like you and appreciate your contributions. Please don't misunderstand.

To tell me to "keep calm" is inappropriate in light of how respectful and friendly I was. I believe this comes down to difference in languages. Regardless, let's just agree to disagree, my friend. If you have leaks with specific numbers and date, feel free to tag me.

English is not my main language, but thats not mean I can't spot rude posts. Your post are a mix of friendly and rude. If you are in this thread more time should know better that nobody tag anyone becase of some leak because we can't even prove if is fake or not. We just post here leaks/info and move on the conversation. Why anyone should tag just for leak?

Friendly reminder: Just use the ignore button next time. You don't even need waste your time pointing my english.

 

[TLZ]

Guys please take a second to look at this

Ps5 no raytracing 8TF etc.. and Xbox community refer to him as insider he thinks xss is better than ps5 cause ps5 has no raytracing . Lol

This is priceless.

 

[darkinstinct]

Yeah both consoles have more than 9.75 TF as Klee confirmed, so PS5 is more than that, just like XSX i smore than that.

You guys are really just being blind on purpose, there's no way you guys are functioning right.

Projection? If it sounds like a duck, looks like a duck, swims like a duck - it's probably a duck. 2019 launch planned, APU with high clock speeds leaks, devkit that sounds like a jet engine leaks - 9.2 TF

 

[darkinstinct]

Guys please take a second to look at this

Ps5 no raytracing 8TF etc.. and Xbox community refer to him as insider he thinks xss is better than ps5 cause ps5 has no raytracing . Lol

Yeah, that's obviously all kinds of false. But he's just a poster on Era (dukebluesomething) and nobody takes him serious, not in any camp. Also AMD confirmed 7nm for PS5.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Friendly reminder: Just use the ignore button next time. You don't even need waste your time pointing my english.

Are you going to respond with a numbered leak with a date, or continue on in this manner? I don't wish to debate you on a spread encompassing 9-14TF. I wish to establish who provided solid numbers first. I will not block you, and I hope you reconsider your interpretation of my posts. I went out of my way not to be rude. Anyway, I will drop it if that's what you wish.

 

[Fatal Enigma]

3 to 4 times? That's a lot in my book.

3-4 times over the course of its rampup to retail. Not daily changes or few days or weekly like insiders numbers change. Like I already said and you either chose to miss or whatever it is you do to sidetrack the issue lol

 

[darkinstinct]

Yeah because the numbers weren’t really that impressive if you look at it from the outside, it’s why he did say that and if you see how much these guys from REEEEE expected, they expected 14 TFlops and 16 TFlops GCN of course, so 12 TF would look kinda disappointing.

Yeah, as we have all seen this week, 12 TF were considered a bad joke and way too slow for a next gen console. Oh wait ...

 

[R600]

L

Yeah, that's obviously all kinds of false. But he's just a poster on Era (dukebluesomething) and nobody takes him serious, not in any camp. Also AMD confirmed 7nm for PS5.

Lol no he is not dukeball, he is some asian dude that is probably biggest xbox fan and conspiracy theorist on twitter. Still goes on about Xbone and locked potential.

 

[Fatal Enigma]

Yeah, that's obviously all kinds of false. But he's just a poster on Era (dukebluesomething) and nobody takes him serious, not in any camp. Also AMD confirmed 7nm for PS5.

that is not duke from era ...what lmao

 

[darkinstinct]

Why does MS have such vocal crazy fanboys as this guy while Sony doesn't? I swear you can list more than 10 people not including publications like DF.

Let me introduce you to HipHopGamer and FoxyGamerUK. What is it with such hyperbole, you know very well that both sides have the most retarded fanboys there are.

 

[darkinstinct]

that is not duke from era ...what lmao

Pretty sure he posted two days ago how he triggered the PS5 chief software architect on Twitter.

 

[darkinstinct]

Ask @CyberPanda who quotes him here all the time when he wants to post about ps5. Any answers cyber ?

Haven't seen him here in quite a while. He probably got bored.

 

[Fatal Enigma]

Pretty sure he posted two days ago how he triggered the PS5 chief software architect on Twitter.

bluenugaho is not dukeblueball, take a couple of our words for it

 

[gaming_noob]

I'd like to know why IOInteractive is using a 9.2 Teraflop GPU profile for their game?

Can you link that to tickle my confirmation bias?

 

[Fake]

Are you going to respond with a numbered leak with a date, or continue on in this manner? I don't wish to debate you on a spread encompassing 9-14TF. I wish to establish who provided solid numbers first. I will not block you, and I hope you reconsider your interpretation of my posts. I went out of my way not to be rude. Anyway, I will drop it if that's what you wish.

Just drop it. You're become annoying. I not an insider or even bring news about numbers. Before even Benji stated 12TF, some here/resetera already being saying the differencial between seX and PS5 are 10%, mininal or my favorite 'close'. Just do some search dude.

 

[Fatal Enigma]

Haven't seen him here in quite a while. He probably got bored.

post banned here a few days, I saw him say in another thread

 

[darkinstinct]

Wasn't someone asking for a selfban if nothing happens in february? Was that Tommy Fisher?

Yeah, but he called that XSX is at 12 TF a month after everybody else, so now he is some kind of real insider.

 

[LED Guy?]

3-4 times over the course of its rampup to retail. Not daily changes or few days or weekly like insiders numbers change. Like I already said and you either chose to miss or whatever it is you do to sidetrack the issue lol

Nope, what I said isn’t sidetracking at all, you just don’t want to take it because it doesn’t make your Xbox look weaker than PS5, 4 times the dev kits that’s a lot.

 

[Fdkenzo]

PS5
GPU-12.8TF RDNA2 + Secret sausage
RTX Hardware + audio
CPU-3.7gh Zen 2
Memory-24gb (20gb DDR6+4Gb DDR4)
SSD 1tB/5gb
Controller-haptic feedback, wireless charging, heart rate senzors
Webcam- something similar to Kinect

“You heard it here first!”

Calm down, is just a speculation

 

[LED Guy?]

Yeah, as we have all seen this week, 12 TF were considered a bad joke and way too slow for a next gen console. Oh wait ...

Nope, 12 TF RDNA 2.0 is a huge leap and one that is too good to be true, but 12 TF GCN? Nah that doesn’t really sound very powerful.

 

[TLZ]

Incorrect.

Github was regression test containing data for Native, BC1 and BC2 modes.

So 36 CUs, exactly like Pro CUs, which points to BC.

Then 2ghz (possibly PS5 native or max clock stress test), 911mhz (Pro speed) and 800mhz (PS4 speed). All these to test BC and compatibility.

So pray tell, how does this prove PS5 is limited to 36 CUs? Everything about this points to BC tests.