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gaming_noob
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VanSiriusGabriel
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People on the verge of killing each others for hours. Some Sergio Leone stuff here.
Matreios Raven
Member
Lol I’m preparing for an 8 TF Vega PS5 just in case so I’m not disappointed. 13 TF RDNA2 PS5? Yeah, like that will happen.
I see people saying Klee confirmed 12TF back in December, and it makes him 100% legit (although it is after WC and PS said it days before), but what do we make of this leak?
It was first leak with exact numbers (4TF/12GB for Lockhart, 12TF/16GB for Anaconda and 8+TF for PS5 - all Navi based).
Now, we know his numbers for Lockhaet and Anaconda are spot on, but funnily enough this was first leak with specific numbers and them being right is pretty crazy. So what do we make of it?
It was first leak with exact numbers (4TF/12GB for Lockhart, 12TF/16GB for Anaconda and 8+TF for PS5 - all Navi based).
Now, we know his numbers for Lockhaet and Anaconda are spot on, but funnily enough this was first leak with specific numbers and them being right is pretty crazy. So what do we make of it?
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Albert Penello seems to think Microsoft hit their target. PS5 on the other hand... That's what we all want to know.
trancefreak64
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TLZ
Banned
I really wouldn't believe it before I make sure, especially if I'm someone who's the fact-checking type.
Imgur, the ultimate source of truth.
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NoLootBoxDev
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I did not check here the last few days, then saw a big jump of 40+ pages. I thought something interesting came. Then proceed to read them. Oh my...... not sure where to start, but if I look before when I was a fanboy, then yes I understand why people want one console with more TF than the other. So nothing new came and people go back to github, 9.2tf - 14 tf, and attacking each another.
Thank God I am no longer like that, I will just enjoy the games and that is all. At the end of the day only after Sony release the specs, no one even insiders will have the last say. Even I as the only, ultimate insider with a proven record of never failing on any of my predictions "subjectively speaking".
Have some peace people and stop attacking each other.
Thank God I am no longer like that, I will just enjoy the games and that is all. At the end of the day only after Sony release the specs, no one even insiders will have the last say. Even I as the only, ultimate insider with a proven record of never failing on any of my predictions "subjectively speaking".
Have some peace people and stop attacking each other.
thelastword
Banned
After all the hype for the Series X console and all the 9.2TF (is that all you got) ribbings......When Cerny comes on stage and releases the Kraken, I fear this will be one of the most hyped times on GAF......and also very sorrowful for others sadly.....I can't wait......Some people have hyped XBOX to the stratosphere and convinced themselves that PS will never measure up......Man this year, I suspect will be really great....
TLZ
Banned
They're either ignorant or just playing stupid because of their green tinted glasses. But no matter what whoever says or does, they can't and won't change what'll happen later when official specs come out and consoles release.
demigod
Member
Another 40 pages of Github incoming, enjoy the show.
Fatal Enigma
Member
PS5 will either be 9TF or it wont but PS fans should band together to push Sony to speak.
Like seriously, it's time.....
I mean, I see no constant push by the masses whatsoever to be told more info than, hey here's a LOGO
Like seriously, it's time.....
I mean, I see no constant push by the masses whatsoever to be told more info than, hey here's a LOGO
Looking at the date (jan 15, 2019), its curious how this fella got right.
Studios:
IO: Rumor by Klorbille, never happened
Asobo: Strong indications due to their historic partnership with Microsoft (Almost all their acquisitions were on that), at E3 2019 FS 2020 was revealed and they are the developer.
Farm 51: Last year it was reported that XGS visited Poland and that this studio was considered a candidate
Platinum Games: According to some sources, there was a proposal, but they rejected because they wanted to be independent, this was right after it was announced that Tencent had invested on them as they wanted to keep independence.
Hardware:
Confirmed on Xbox X name and being 12TF, plus DXR and MS AI. Not to mention as it was already reinforced yesterday, it will have full compability with Xbox One and OG and 360 title list will continue to grow. All generations in one console as it was marketed.
Services:
Gamepass Ultimate, Gamepass PC and Xcloud at E3 2019, Gamepass Ultimate became popular and Xcloud appears to be taking on lead of Google Stadia (LOL).
Titles:
Halo Infinite being a crossgen launch title, Bleeding Edge and Forza 8 crossgen as stated by Microsoft plan to keep the exclusives for the first two years on both consoles. Notice, Halo Infinite wasn't confirmed as a launch title until E3 2019, and Bleeding Edge wasn't revealed until that event, althrough it will be first released on Xbox One and PC.
XinTniX
Neo Member
Microsoft already proved that 12tf is possible, so if is possible to Microsoft it's also possible to Sony, you guys should discuss the motives that could make Sony avoid to go with a 12+ tf machine, not if Sony can do something at this level, this restriction does not exist. You should think about market strategies, not in technical limitations. At least something around 12 is possible.
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JMB88
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Most of the people in the industry said that Sony's plans changed in 2018. So that information was correct before the changes, but outdated in 2019.
If you look, the same leak makes mention that he knows a lot more of the plans of MS than of Sony.
Why would people believe that everyone who has connections would be lying to us?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Possibly. PS5 might be great.
But what show is Sony going to show it off? They've already stated they're skipping every key show for the first half of the year. Even E3 2020 was shot down, and that was before coronavirus even took off.
SeX at 12tf RDNA 2 seems pretty solid. At most, PS5 will be give or take a bit more or less than SeX. The chances of PS5 being let's say 16tf RDNA 2 for a 30-40% advantage like PS4 vs Xbox One is zero. And everyone knows that.
So when both systems launch, it will either be really close, or PS5 really is 9.2tf for a 30-40% gain for SeX.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Get that logic out of here, right now!
Jason said they played around with 2019 release but decided 2020 all the way back in 2017, so I dont think they delayed it in 2018.
In fact, there was a Kotaku article by Jason in mid 2018 where he said no one has even heard about PS5 releasing, let alone 2019 being the date.
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Deleted member 779727
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A recreation of the KZ2 and Motorstorm 2005 CGI trailers running in real-time would serve as a good demonstration of the PS5's power.
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Its about you missing the logic. They can go higher duo to covering low end with Lockhart. If Sony had 2 SKU strat I would say its anyones game, but with 1 SKU you have to cover lower end as well and hit price sweetspot, with 2 you do not have to.
In that sense, Sony is already in deficit. Shot for $500 console at loss and you get MS releasing Lockhart to masses for ~150$ less, its extremely tricky position to be in for Sony (that has 1/3 of their revenue coming from consoles).
DeepEnigma
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AEN
TherapistGaymer
Banned
Exactly
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
An arcadey racer that looked like the Motorstorm CGI would be awesome.
OrionNebula
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it_wasn't_me
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That was before Reiner's tweet. I've accepted that PS5 will be weaker because MSs 2 SKU strategy and how they aimed for premium console and mainstream one. Well, after the Reiner's tweet....
B_Boss
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I can't help but wonder if virus concerns wouldn't have held sway, if we would have had more concrete info from Sony by now from either PAX or GDC although GDC will at least be
As should anyone's "opinion" or observations when confronted with the data, fac
I actually think they will show up via stream but we'll see. While they have the full ability, do we know if they'll attend via stream? I hope so...
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DeepEnigma
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Was waiting for a spam link at the end of this post, but it never came.
Gamernyc78
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Albert Penello seems to think Microsoft hit their target. PS5 on the other hand... That's what we all want to know.
Thts not saying much after he made an ass of himself with the "balanced console" Xbox one bs, lying through his teeth when comparing ps4 and Xbox one specs
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ethomaz
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You need to understand how illogical is your mind
You can’t makes sense even if you try it.
You read everything in this thread
Matreios Raven
Member
No one is saying Sony couldn’t make a 12 TF machine. Hell, they could make a 17 TF RDNA 2.0 PS5 if they wanted to. It all comes down to cost. I’m far from an expert on such matters, but they can’t will the PS5 into existence.
thelastword
Banned
Hey did you see my posts......I said the same thing sometime last week in one of those threads......Motorstorm CG in realtime on PS5 will look amazing.....I actually think Guerilla can easily do much better than the Killzone sped up trailer in realtime, since they got so close with KZ2.....
OrionNebula
Member
I think Soony’s trying to cram 3 extra Tera Flops into the ps5 at the last minute like :
thelastword
Banned
Ha, So you can't see PS5 having a 30-40% percent advantage launching at the same time as Series X, which Sony already showed it can do in 2013, so there's precedence there...... but you can indeed see the Series X having a 30-40% advantage because 9.2TF, where there is no precedence......I like the logic there.....
Gediminas
Banned
15,5 TF confirmed by quazar77I think Soony’s trying to cram 3 extra Tera Flops into the ps5 at the last minute like :
OrionNebula
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JMB88
Neo Member
Several have said that Sony canceled the 2019 plans, I don't remember if in 2017 or 2018, but they just mentioned that at that time the goal was 9 TF.
They aren't going to be such idiots to delay the launch of the console for a year to put exactly the same amount of TF they had planned before.
Or at least I want to believe that.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Ok. When PS5 launches and official specs are released, we'll see how much more powerful (or less powerful) it will be vs. 12tf RDNA 2.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I think Jason Schreier was one of them who said Sony ditched a 2019 release for a better PS5.Several have said that Sony canceled the 2019 plans, I don't remember if in 2017 or 2018, but they just mentioned that at that time the goal was 9 TF.
They aren't going to be such idiots to delay the launch of the console for a year to put exactly the same amount of TF they had planned before.
Or at least I want to believe that.
01011001
Banned
if the SX was revealed to be 9.2TF a 12TF PS5 would have been possible but being above 12TF would be ridiculously pricey
Tommy Fisher said he'd do a self ban if there was no PS5 announcement in February, a guarantee he made. I doubt he'll ban himself tommorow. If he doesn't follow through with that promise, not to mention many bits of info he's got wrong, ill have a hard time understanding why anymore puts much faith in his "insider" info.You heard it here first, folks!Tommy Fisher-style
OrionNebula
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I was under the impression he was already a goner? Oh well, another insider bites the dust...
JMB88
Neo Member
Yes, Jason, Matt, Klee and some more that I don't remember now.
But well, we are in an infinite cycle of always repeating the same things.
If the Aliens came to this thread, they would return to their planet claiming they didn't find intelligent life on Earth.
thelastword
Banned
I think MS knows they can't offer the same prices Sony can on hardware......In 2013, a more powerful console was cheaper by $100......Their two Sku system in no way interrupts Sony's hardware ambitions or interrupts it......I don't think MS's high end SKU affects how powerful a single console PS5 will be......PS5 won't be less powerful just because MS has two sku's…...
From where I'm sitting, I think MS is going two sku's because they know their console will be more expensive even if it's less powerful, they don't have the hardware chops, connections and partners Sony has in that realm.....They simply don't want to have a more expensive or same priced console to go against Sony, they know they will lose in each scenario......Their lower end SKU may be a lower priced option they think will pull people into their eco-system.....They've already done, less powerful and more expensive, that clearly doesn't work, they've done more powerful a year later at the same $500 price, they seen that does not work, so they are trying premium console + cheaper console and leaving it in the hands of gamers, yet they've already tied their legs with no exclusives......
If anything, I think Lockhart maybe a replacement of XBONEX with a better CPU and a more efficient GPU......So maybe 8 core Ryzen APU with between 5500-5600XT visuals....
Matreios Raven
Member
I want the PS5 to be 12 TF, but I’m sure most of the “leakers” are spreading garbage.
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