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[hemo memo]

Don't believe these "insiders". They are going to throw cryptic hints that they can manipulate to SEEM right and use excuses when "things change".
Everyone who has laid down their "insider" card should have it listed and if wrong, banned.
Take the official xbox sx spec and give about 1TF + or - leeway. There's the PS5. Insider? No. Common sense? Yep.

You "insiders" are fucking frauds with an agenda to push bias and hype towards whichever company you blow. You're making what should be a fun ride to the new gen for both brands insufferable with your bullshit. Just STFU, already. You're as useful as pastebin.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

I'd whore myself out for that

Would like to say "me too" but I won't get a penny out of it.

 

[mitchman]

Most on Reset Era are convinced 9.2 TF Oberon is the final version of the PS5 GPU because Sony was supposedly ahead of MS in development at the time.

Absolutely not, it's the same xbox fans claiming it there as here. Why do people tend to shit talk other people/forums/whatever somewhere else?

 

[IkarugaDE]

So remember the old rumors/leaks from Reiner about Scarlett and PS5 being close in power about 9 months ago, but the PS5 was more powerful and that narrative went on for months?

Well apparently the PlayStation 5 was/is that 9.2 Teraflops which we've seen popping up left and right now and the Xbox was speculated as being in the mid to upper 8 Teraflop range which has credence because the devkits at the time were just cobbled together as noted numerous times but things might change.

Remember this?



This would also give credence to all the rumors that followed where it was said that they were "close in performance".

Microsoft coming out at 12 Teraflops was that surprise, the devkits which were circulating were severely preliminary which created the narrative of them being like minded systems. They're not.

Okay, hold my beer!

So you say Microsoft is so smart and pumps the XSX like a bodybuilder with steroids according to rumors that the PS5 devkit would be stronger?
And while MS is so smart and reacts to RUMORS, the 12TF of the XSX are suddenly a surprise for Sony? A surprise that wasn't a surprise, since even Microsoft had been giving some public Information (+ several leaks that mostly said 12TF and some of them RDNA2) for months about where the journey with the XSX is going?
What you wrote here would mean that Sony is the biggest noob in console history, doesn't know shit what the competitor is doing and has now screwed it up a lot.
This also has absolutely nothing to do with "speculation", instead you underline your confused arguments with an allegedly amateurish approach by one of the largest electronics companies in the world that has been in the console business for almost 30 years. Come on!

 

[CrustyBritches]

Bo_Hazem

Game Gear was tight. My buddy had one with James Pond, Batman Returns, and Sonic. I think I was more into it than him. Strangely, I ended up with a Sega Nomad before I got a Game Gear. It wasn't a great on-the-go battery powered portable, but as a personal mini-tv and Genesis plugged into a wall or car cig outlet it was the best. I would stay up all night playing MK, Sonic 2, and Streets of Rage 3. Even supported 2-player and tv-out. Later when I was working for Toys R Us, we received a random shipment of Game Gears that sold for $30, so I bought one. It was weird because it was the year 2000.

 

[Sussoloc]

Maybe, just maybe....12-13tf was always the target for PS5.

And they still planned to stick with that target when going to final dev kit, retail?

Maybe Sony has 2 consoles. 9TF 399 bucks + 13TF PS5 Pro for 499-599.

 

[hemo memo]

Nothing from our Doritos king?

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Bo_Hazem

Game Gear was tight. My buddy had one with James Pond, Batman Returns, and Sonic. I think I was more into it than him. Strangely, I ended up with a Sega Nomad before I got a Game Gear. It wasn't a great on-the-go battery powered portable, but as a personal mini-tv and Genesis plugged into a wall or car cig outlet it was the best. I would stay up all night playing MK, Sonic 2, and Streets of Rage 3. Even supported 2-player and tv-out. Later when I was working for Toys R Us, we received a random shipment of Game Gears that sold for $30, so I bought one. It was weird because it was the year 2000.

I didn't find Sonic game either, I lived far from the capital at that time, probably that's the reason. Streets of Rage is one of my favorites! Me, my older brother and my older sister are waiting for the new Streets of Rage 4 if you didn't notice it, You hear the iconic soundtrack at the beginning here:

 

[jroc74]

You're not paying attention to what I'm saying, this is retrospectively speaking.

If the PS5 was 9.2 Teraflops and Microsoft had those preliminary devkits floating around which people said they did, and these people were saying the PS5 was more powerful because of that. That naturally puts those early kits from MS being in the mid to high 8 Teraflop range which on the back of that further fuels why people thought the PS5 was more powerful for a number of months.

So maybe the PS5 was always targeting this 9.2 Teraflop threshold, Microsoft's early kits were weaker in comparison which sparked the weaker narrative but the reality is they and the final system were nowhere near finalized.

Did you see this post:

Please keep up.

That was tweeted months before the tweet you posted. IMO he posted that like MS was going to reveal tf numbers.

So....why would 8tf even be in consideration for Series X. Unless you mean LH. And that's an even more odd stance since it's long been rumored 4tf, and isn't close to 9.2tf.

Maybe Sony has 2 consoles. 9TF 399 bucks + 13TF PS5 Pro for 499-599.

Hey, I guess it's possible. And I don't know how I feel about that. If that's the case MS really gonna be wondering wtf to do with a possible weaker cheaper and high end console.

 

[demigod]

Dude, you went from consoles cannot be more than 8TF Rdna ever to PS5 is 9.2 Best case with RT, Xbox can be 12 because TOWER to I don't care about consoles I'm PC

All I want from you is not to dissapear when PS5 is finally revealed.

Damn, he requested a ban. I hope he comes back for the reveal!

 

[hemo memo]

Maybe Sony has 2 consoles. 9TF 399 bucks + 13TF PS5 Pro for 499-599.

13TF PS5 Pro for 599? Day 1.

 

[Kumomeme]

Hey, though MGS may have ran its course, I'd take it... or what about a MGS 3 Remake?

God, it's sad that this was made in Fox engine and is stuck on a damn Pachinko machine.

yep....kojima left damm good engine to konami...it can be their version of MT Framework or Re engine for konami future title

it even suit for open world and cinematic game... while EA 's AAA titles struggle with frostbite shortcoming, Konami just use it to make football and pachinko game LOL what a waste

 

[Gavin Stevens]

This thread really turns toxic. Man... I mean, it’s not 9.2tf, that’s crazy talk and would be a monumental failure of Sony in every posssible way. It’s also not some high 13tf number like 13.8 and over because that’s just as moronic.

As far as I can see, it’s bloody close, and the only people spinning this are people on both sides upset that their console isn’t the lead.

Two compatible consoles means games will be the best they possibly can be. the agenda bias is bloody stupid. A 1tf difference is a piss in the wind at this power level, and those worried really show how little they understand about it all. It’s like you think the lower console will be 1080p while the other 4k

Honestly, some of you are acting like the age of the flops and not the power, and this time I DO mean 9tf

 

[CrustyBritches]

Nothing from our Doritos king?

Pope Geoffrey the 1st?

He will speak when heavens give him the divine order.
---
Bo_Hazem
Streets of Rage 2 and 3 are pure heat. I like 3 more, but I know some purists prefer 2. I've seen SoR 4 and it looks fun. It might not be as good as the old-school, but neither was the new TMNT Arcade game, but my boys and I still had a ton of fun playing it.
Speaking of epic SoR music...my fav:

 

[Sussoloc]

13TF PS5 Pro for 599? Day 1.

Would make sense to me with all the different rumours. I think Sony planned a 9TF PS5 and after hearing from MS in 2019 how much power XSX has they are in a hurry for a stronger console. That's why they are so quiet right now.

 

[Bligtgate]

True leaks are always true at a certain time and circumstances.

Today, 9.2TF, is the only thing that PS5 does not have.

Now is at puberty.

Hi! Just wondering here, are you a vetted member?

 

[demigod]

This thread really turns toxic. Man... I mean, it’s not 9.2tf, that’s crazy talk and would be a monumental failure of Sony in every posssible way. It’s also not some high 13tf number like 13.8 and over because that’s just as moronic.

As far as I can see, it’s bloody close, and the only people spinning this are people on both sides upset that their console isn’t the lead.

Two compatible consoles means games will be the best they possibly can be. the agenda bias is bloody stupid. A 1tf difference is a piss in the wind at this power level, and those worried really show how little they understand about it all. It’s like you think the lower console will be 1080p while the other 4k

Honestly, some of you are acting like the age of the flops and not the power, and this time I DO mean 9tf

I see your bias showing again. Stop projecting like every Sony fans believe in 13.8TF, there’s maybe 1 person. Whereas there’s probably over 20 xbox fans in this thread that believes the 9.2TF.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Pope Geoffrey the 1st?

He will speak when heavens give him the divine order.
---
Bo_Hazem
Streets of Rage 2 and 3 are pure heat. I like 3 more, but I know some purists prefer 2. I've seen SoR 4 and it looks fun. It might not be as good as the old-school, but neither was the new TMNT Arcade game, but my boys and I still had a ton of fun playing it.
Speaking of epic SoR music...my fav:

I have those soundtracks and listen to them in my car from time to time. My wife goes like "who the fuck listens to such funky sounds/music?". Well, she's not a gamer anyway. How could those guys make such iconic music with a poor tool shows to you that talent knows no boundaries. I hope they are still working in the industry feeding us epic music. Yes, first one was slightly rough but loved the car guy launching missiles and so as backup. 2nd to me was the best, 3rd had the best gameplay yet felt somehow empty. 2nd had the story of the young black boy fighting for his prisoner father (Blaze) along with the old dudes. I liked Blaze more but used to play with the huge guy in the second one (Max).

I didn't like what they did to Axel's body in the 4th installment, he looks like a truck as he used to be a mix between agility and strength. But gonna play the game anyway.

 

[FranXico]

Hi! Just wondering here, are you a vetted member?

Yes he is.

 

[Bligtgate]

Yes he is.

Didnt know

 

[IkarugaDE]

Bo_Hazem
GameGear was a cool device, one of my Friends had one (think it was about more than 20 years ago). Had much fun playing Sonic on the go! But it failed hardly and was also hard to find here in Germany.

Maybe you are able to find some cool games on eBay!

 

[Sussoloc]

Hey, I guess it's possible. And I don't know how I feel about that. If that's the case MS really gonna be wondering wtf to do with a possible weaker cheaper and high end console.

Would be very interesting to see 299 6TF XSS, 399 9TF PS5, 499 12TF XSX and 599 13TF PS5 Pro.

 

[Spreewaldgurke]

True leaks are always true at a certain time and circumstances.

Today, 9.2TF, is the only thing that PS5 does not have.

Now is at puberty.

So that‘s the age Of dev Kit 3 then?

 

[Deleted member 775630]

I see your bias showing again. Stop projecting like every Sony fans believe in 13.8TF, there’s maybe 1 person. Whereas there’s probably over 20 xbox fans in this thread that believes the 9.2TF.

Both extremes have followers. Most likely it's just what the "insiders" on this forum have said. Somewhere between 10 and 11.5TF. So enough to not notice a difference.

 

[Sw0pDiller]

It's funny to see how ms tries to announce their nextbox. It's with numbers instead of games... Typical the way they did with the one x. All hardware and no games.

I can only hope that sony unveils their console with games instead of numbers. Can't play games on tf alone. By this way of making business alone I will buy a ps5 over a xbsx even if the gpu Gap is 25 pct. Sony showed with PS4 they are more than capable tot make that 25 up with more and better games.

 

[Moses85]

Wait

Isn't that the same forest as in P.T.'s launcher screen?

Oh Boy, what would I give if I had phantasy like you

 

[Sussoloc]

It's funny to see how ms tries to announce their nextbox. It's with numbers instead of games... Typical the way they did with the one x. All hardware and no games.

And how many games do we have for PS5 by now? Godfall? I Expect MS talking 90% of E3 about games that's why they are talking about numbers right now.

 

[CrustyBritches]

I have those soundtracks and listen to them in my car from time to time. My wife goes like "who the fuck listens to such funky sounds/music?".

Tell your wife CrustyBritches listens to music like that all the time, so all the cool kids are doing it. Genesis/Megadrive had a Yamaha YM2612, I don't know much about shit like that, but retro edm composers rave about it. Back then I was hearing this music through crappy CRT TV speakers. Now to hear it on a system with a sub is amazing. Drum and bass is just sick. This guy makes crazy f*cking music stations out of game systems, here's the beginning of his Megadrive/Genesis project...

 

[Hawking Radiation]

There is FUCK ALL happening on March 3rd.

There would have been word from people in the know days ago if something was up.

Jesus, have you people not learnt anything by now?

 

[Hawking Radiation]

And how many games do we have for PS5 by now? Godfall? I Expect MS talking 90% of E3 about games that's why they are talking about numbers right now.

Did Sony announce Godfall?
Did Sony announce Outriders?

My man basically says that Xbox has been talking specs all this time. Sony has not announced anything but showed off a logo and some vague system features that they didnt expand on at all.

That's the difference between the two.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Tell your wife CrustyBritches listens to music like that all the time, so all the cool kids are doing it. Genesis/Megadrive had a Yamaha YM2612, I don't know much about shit like that, but retro edm composers rave about it. Back then I was hearing this music through crappy CRT TV speakers. Now to hear it on a system with a sub is amazing. Drum and bass is just sick. This guy makes crazy f*cking music stations out of game systems, here's the beginning of his Megadrive/Genesis project...

Haha! That guy is crazy! And I like it. I usually prefer music with no singing, cause if there is a nice song I usually care more about the music. Not always though, I feel like most new songs aren't worthy to waste your time paying attention to lyrics anyway Thanks a lot for the nostalgia, mate

 

[Deleted member 775630]

It's funny to see how ms tries to announce their nextbox. It's with numbers instead of games... Typical the way they did with the one x. All hardware and no games.

I can only hope that sony unveils their console with games instead of numbers. Can't play games on tf alone. By this way of making business alone I will buy a ps5 over a xbsx even if the gpu Gap is 25 pct. Sony showed with PS4 they are more than capable tot make that 25 up with more and better games.

They showed Hellblade 2, and no one shows games this early when you haven't even had your actual announcement presentation yet... It's clear that Microsoft waits for E3 to show all the games, and a private event might show some footage of games in developments or demo's, but nothing like an E3 presentation.

 

[Tommy Fisher]

Mod of War Check your PMs!

 

[TherapistGaymer]

Stop repeating yourself with this. You’re just dumping fuel on a fire, and partaking in a passive aggressive fanboy like manner.

For everyone else:
@JAMMA has been removed from thread as well, so move on from that.

You truly are a great person. I want to see healthy competition and am tired of all the passive aggressive trolling. High 5 man... HIGH f<"(>,g 5

 

[TherapistGaymer]

9.2TF, High BOM,Sell for a loss, Github, Pornhub, Oberon, 36 CU for BC. lol.
Can we move on folks? We get it. Some of you absolutely love the #9, and Nine.point.Two Teraflops of POWER........

Preach!

 

[FeiRR]

Yes he is.

Industry Professional, Google Translate Enthusiast, speak a word to us!

They showed Hellblade 2, and no one shows games this early

Nobody shows games less than a year from their launch? Dude, seriously...
Well, actually they said quite clearly that there will be no games from them except for the Halo sequel.

 

[TLZ]

Tell your wife CrustyBritches listens to music like that all the time

You want his wife to divorce him?

"WTF is Crusty Bitches??"

 

[TLZ]

Mod of War Check your PMs!

 

[demigod]

Mod of War Check your PMs!

I hope this is something juicy.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

Nobody shows games less than a year from their launch? Dude, seriously...
Well, actually they said quite clearly that there will be no games from them except for the Halo sequel.

I should've clarified I meant next-gen maybe. Except for Halo which is a cross-gen game, do you actually have examples of next-gen games. A game that is only available for PS5 for example?

Microsoft and Sony normally don't show this without a proper show related to this. That's why we had to wait until the PS4 reveal before seeing PS4 games. Hence why we probably have to wait on an Xbox event before seeing their new games.

 

[FeiRR]

I should've clarified I meant next-gen maybe. Except for Halo which is a cross-gen game, do you actually have examples of next-gen games. A game that is only available for PS5 for example?

No, I don't because it hasn't been revealed. If they reveal PS5 without games, I'll be very vocal about it, too.

 

[dangopee]

Mod of War Check your PMs!

Requesting self ban?

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Look if the date is 13th of March, American date would be 3.13.2020 not 13.3.2020. So this makes the case of 3rd of March stronger possibility as there is no way to get confused wether you're American or living in the rest of the world as the date would be 3.3.2020 either way.

What I'm trying to tell you is that 3rd of March is feeling like a strong possibility along with KojiPro tweet and being before AMD's conference on the next gen...

I was joking about the 13.3.2020 anyway I would take 3.3.2020, which is TOMORROW!

 

[Koopatrol]

Tommy about to revive this thread with his girthy flops

 

[Deleted member 775630]

No, I don't because it hasn't been revealed. If they reveal PS5 without games, I'll be very vocal about it, too.

Just like the XSX hasn't had a real reveal yet... They only showed the box, hellblade 2, and said it has a 12TF GPU. Is that a reveal to you?

 

[pasterpl]

Four Reasons the Xbox Series X Will Be No Threat to the PlayStation 5

The Xbox Series X is shaping up to be a killer platform. But there's reason to believe the PlayStation 5 (PS5) will deliver just as well.

www.ccn.com

 

[FeiRR]

Just like the XSX hasn't had a real reveal yet... They only showed the box, hellblade 2, and said it has a 12TF GPU. Is that a reveal to you?

So it wasn't a real reveal, okay...

 

[DrDamn]

CRAZY right? how an older architecture can leverage features of later ones?

So you are saying XSX isn't full RDNA2 then? Interesting.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

What is going on?

Why is everyone almost convinced that something is happening tomorrow? Its 2nd March here in NZ

How can a plannes PS5 reveal just suddenly pop up in the last day or so and be happening in a day?

WTF guys. I dont want blue balls again FFS

 

[Deleted member 775630]

So it wasn't a real reveal, okay...

Not in my book, but that's a semantics discussion so we'll just agree to disagree. I'm just saying that it's not weird Microsoft hasn't shown games for the XSX yet since they wait for their own event.