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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Yeah, I love when PS fanboys act like PS4 has nothing but those 4-5 AAA titles like H:ZD, UC4, GoW etc. that are indeed a level above anything else, but forget about exclusives like inFamous:SS, KZ:SF, TO1886, Knack 1&2, The Last Guardian, Shenmue 3, Shadow of the Colossus, Days Gone, Dreams, DS, games that were literally either released unnoticed or were completely forgotten once the weekend ended in best case scenario. I mean, obviously the games were so mediocre even the fanboys forgot about them. Sony isn't any different than MS this gen, both have literally just a few jewels in their pocket, with many many exclusives that didn't caught up the wider audience attention. They might look better, but that's about it.
Can't agree with you on Days Gone, it's a good game!
 
In the history of consoles and official specs, is there any trend regarding power vs. who tells first?
I understand your point.

Mine is that if what Sony intends to do is to reveal the PS5 specs in early March, just a few days after MS, it is not to annunce that they have an inferior console.

If Sony would have an inferior console they would do what MS did in 2013, wait until May 22 ;)

My opinion
 
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LED Guy?

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The range is very wide. You could say scientifically that it can start between 9 and 15. And it can end between 19 and 21. Although it usually goes between 10 and 17. I personally think I started it around 11. I would like to add that the first menstruation usually occurs between 12-13, while the first ejaculation usually appears at 13. It is in the only average that we agree men and women. All this is real scientific data that subscribe to a trend, but obviously it is not a fixed norm, it is variable according to the person, but it would become a good reference.

There is also precocious puberty. And perpetual puberty, which usually takes place on the internet, for example. Studies have been done where it looks like perpetual puberty is worsening alarmingly in some forums.

I want to emphasize two things:

1. As in all scientific data there are always exceptions.

2. The issue of perpetual puberty was a joke, that no one is offended.
So you’re telling me that the PlayStation 5 ejaculates at 13.

There it is boys and girls, the PS5 ejaculates at 13 TFs!!
 
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Actually I'm kinda curious on will the TF number really play an important role in wether you will buy PS5 or not?
Because for me, NO. Even if the PS5 has a creazy low end and high priced like 8TF@499 I will still purchase it for I have a 2years of ps+ subscription and a 150+ digital games on my account. So technically I CAN'T switch to MS this generation.
What about you guys?
I don't see that as a reason to not switch. I also got 2 years of Game Pass left as well as a big library of digital games but that doesn't mean I'm not switching to Playstation this gen in the beginning. I sometimes play older games again but not that often, it's still mostly about the new games. And I prefer them in the best quality, and that will probably decide my console of choice as long as the price is fair.
 
The range is very wide. You could say scientifically that it can start between 9 and 15. And it can end between 19 and 21. Although it usually goes between 10 and 17. I personally think I started it around 11. I would like to add that the first menstruation usually occurs between 12-13, while the first ejaculation usually appears at 13. It is in the only average that we agree men and women. All this is real scientific data that subscribe to a trend, but obviously it is not a fixed norm, it is variable according to the person, but it would become a good reference.

There is also precocious puberty. And perpetual puberty, which usually takes place on the internet, for example. Studies have been done where it looks like perpetual puberty is worsening alarmingly in some forums.

I want to emphasize two things:

1. As in all scientific data there are always exceptions.

2. The issue of perpetual puberty was a joke, that no one is offended.

Age of 13 for puberty confirmed
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
Oh boy... DF never cease to amaze me 😑

Did I... miss a video or something?

Age of 13 for puberty confirmed

Ejaculation is not puberty, that usually comes a bit later, FYI, and is a misconception based on maturity and pubic hair. (Source: I unfortunately am also a qualified primary school SEN teacher and have given this lesson too many times. Also wet dreams can start as early as... *deep breath* 9ish)
 
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I don't see that as a reason to not switch. I also got 2 years of Game Pass left as well as a big library of digital games but that doesn't mean I'm not switching to Playstation this gen in the beginning. I sometimes play older games again but not that often, it's still mostly about the new games. And I prefer them in the best quality, and that will probably decide my console of choice as long as the price is fair.
That is just on the financial side, just an example. Of course there is other reason too, like friends, Chinese translations(MHW and some games did't have Chinese translation on MS because SONY had bought the right to do it if I remember it right), and my expectation to those sequels.
Each one is so important to me so I picked the least deep one.:messenger_neutral:
 

Ralf

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For it to be 8-9TF.. it means
BGs lied. Verified Insider.
Osirisblack lied. Verified insider
Tommyfisher lied. and he sent pics regarding the DS5.

I think we have been hearing so much lies snd propaganda from the Xbox side, it makes us doubt.

-Anaconda will outperform high end gaming pc's, will beat PS5. High performance built.
-Sony cant compete because they want to cater to masses with low $399 price.
-Klobrille and others say they had a document saying it's proof next Xbox will be more powerful, amounts to nothing.
-the clinging onto Phil's words that MS will never let go of the power crown.
-MS acquisition of studios is proof of how serious they are to win next gen.
-Github leak shows weaksauce PS5 Oberon GPU, strong Xbox GPUs. 12 TF vs 8TF. Github was stepped, so near final SoC for PS5.
-Sony are scared, not talking. Skipped E3 last year, and this year as proof.
-MS is confident thats why they gave out the 12TF number.

ETC.

All BS excuses, but we were fed this for a year plus. but I believe Osiris, BGs and Tommy.

You are realy Sony fanboy....Sad...
 
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Bo_Hazem

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I just cant even...
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MilkyJoe

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Yeah, I love when PS fanboys act like PS4 has nothing but those 4-5 AAA titles like H:ZD, UC4, GoW etc. that are indeed a level above anything else, but forget about exclusives like inFamous:SS, KZ:SF, TO1886, Knack 1&2, The Last Guardian, Shenmue 3, Shadow of the Colossus, Days Gone, Dreams, DS, games that were literally either released unnoticed or were completely forgotten once the weekend ended in best case scenario. I mean, obviously the games were so mediocre even the fanboys forgot about them. Sony isn't any different than MS this gen, both have literally just a few jewels in their pocket, with many many exclusives that didn't caught up the wider audience attention. They might look better, but that's about it.

To be fair I'd take a Forza Horizon 3 with Hot Wheels over anything Sony has ever put out :messenger_grinning: 🤷‍♂️


You wouldn't want him in the same room with your kids, would you...
 
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That is just on the financial side, just an example. Of course there is other reason too, like friends, Chinese translations(MHW and some games did't have Chinese translation on MS because SONY had bought the right to do it if I remember it right), and my expectation to those sequels.
Each one is so important to me so I picked the least deep one.:messenger_neutral:
Yeah friends is an important one. Sequels I don't really care about except Halo, which I'll just play on my old Xbox One then. God of War is a great example why it doesn't always matter to have played the games before and that games can reinvent themselves, as well as go downhill after the first one.
 
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xool

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Having been in China over the Dec through Feb period on a number of occasions in a professional capacity, I can pretty much attest to the fact that this is an annual occurrence.

It's got less to do with COVID-19 and more to do with how the Chinese administration manages the tension between it's citizens suffering the ill effects of obscene industrial air pollution and the economic demands of the heavy industry driving their economy.

While illuminating, it's less relevant to consoles and the discussion here for other reasons too; namely, most of the manufacturing causing NO2 pollution isn't related at all to semi-conductors (which mostly is situated down in Taiwan, not even the mainland).

..according to the article (you read it right ;/ ) - the bounce back from a seasonal drop didn't occur this year. .. and though I agree with your potion about central government managing pollution - that looks like a total shutdown to me..

.. and though TSMC is in Taiwan, assembly is in china, typically Shenzen - which is the mainland zone next to Hong Kong - also very affected.
 

xool

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The way that guy gets venerated as some sort of insider is despicable. The way he is held in high regard on Era is gross. Despite him trolling everyone with what amounted to lies, he was never banned there. His definitive proof PS5 was weaker was a document from MS saying "we want to make the most powerful console" like a vision statement or something. A thread that got hundreds of replies, the guy is a fraud. Klobrille, Colbert and numerous others are worthy of being banned there, but their double standards reek of favoritism. Even an asshole like Dictator from Digital Foundry appears to stir console wars and is never banned. (Saying Leadbetter heard a fucking rumor PS5 was still using Jaguar CPUs , and this he said three weeks ago)

cmon. that never happened, did it. [link ?]
 

FeiRR

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Digital Foundry are clowns. They know a few things about hardware but if you also have experience in that field, you can see how their agenda sticks out from the techno babble. Any agenda which fits the current trends, mind you. When PS4 started dominating the market, they easily changed their tune.

Everyone has preferences but being a cock in the wind to whatever direction it blows from is simply disgusting.
 
The best thing to do with DF is not to visit it. They are sold to the MS service. Microsoft finances their articles and advertising for years.

Can we please stop with this DF hating bandwagon? Like seriously you all sounding moronic with your unreasonable hate towards Digital Foundry. DF does a great job in covering the technical nuances in games and consoles. DF reporting on PS5 using jaguar would be because they might have heard it from their source. DF reporting on git hub is because they reported on what they saw. I am here to defend DF that is all!
 
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Digital Foundry are clowns. They know a few things about hardware but if you also have experience in that field, you can see how their agenda sticks out from the techno babble. Any agenda which fits the current trends, mind you. When PS4 started dominating the market, they easily changed their tune.

Everyone has preferences but being a cock in the wind to whatever direction it blows from is simply disgusting.
Yeah their agenda of constantly promoting Sony in the beginning of last generation when the PS4 was 40% more powerful and this was visible in games? Don't be ridiculous. They aren't biased just because they don't follow "insider" information and only hard data (Github). Also every video and article they constantly say that they aren't even sure the PS5 is only going to be 9TF.
 

Farrell55

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I would like to see that too, it seems he said it at Era sometime three weeks ago. Need to check, it wouldn't surprise me the least though
Okay thanks for your Responds

I have thought that he had say it in one of his videos/analysis

Would be very dumb and broke her credebility Because sony allready confirmed Zen 2 long Time ago
 

Shio

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I did a quick search and found only the following:

Dictator (28714614)
Thread Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT10| - We aim to transition those from OT9 at a pace never seen before.
Reading this thread as of late, I see the idea of the redesign popping up again recently.Take whatever you wish from my statements here, I am just stating what I know and how I connect the dots between them. The idea we mentioned in the past about Jaguar being in a devkit is a a real thing as far as I know, whether as the final CPU for the intended product or as a stop gap for the first dev kits that were out there for it. Considering the timeline of when we heard about that, I also imagine it is not the next gen design we will be getting in 2020, since it was mainly scrapped and brought back to the drawing board.
Link: https://resetera.com//threads/next-...a-pace-never-seen-before.165711/post-28714614
Archive.org: https://web.archive.org<nil>
Archive.is: https://archive.vn<nil>


I don't see what is so bad about what he said, he even says "I also imagine it is not the next gen design we will be getting in 2020, since it was mainly scrapped and brought back to the drawing board."
 
I hope moderator takes a look at all the inflammatory comments in the few threads before here. Lol.

If Sony can come out with a 14tf console, then the more popular nintendo can come out with a 15tf console. What's the point ? People who like xbox have the right to say that sony is 9tf. Un-necessary bullying here. Lol.

And btw, the recycling of games with "updated graphics" is keeping us poor, and the companies rich. Something like what happens in the smartphone industry.
 
cmon. that never happened, did it. [link ?]
After being called out on it fanning console wars, he walked back on it saying it was in a PS5Vdev kit. Keep im mind.. Cerny has stated numerous times that the Pro is NOT a new console, because it still has Jaguar CPUs and there has never been rumors suggesting PS5 dev kits ever had jaguar CPUs. To say this a year after the early "slow" PS5 dev kits had Ryzen CPUs in it is stupid.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/ne...arks-for-chance-at-glory.165711/post-28688334

 
+1 for powerline adaptors. Best £30 I spent in a long time.

"Does anyone remember Rich in a video saying once something about a certain nextgen console maybe utilising Jaguar still? How that rumour was terrifying?

It makes you wonder "

He said this while that TrashEra thread was a dumpsterfire of people saying Cerny lied about hardwareRT.
 
I did a quick search and found only the following:

Dictator (28714614)
Thread Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT10| - We aim to transition those from OT9 at a pace never seen before.

Link: https://resetera.com//threads/next-...a-pace-never-seen-before.165711/post-28714614
Archive.org: https://web.archive.org<nil>
Archive.is: https://archive.vn<nil>


I don't see what is so bad about what he said, he even says "I also imagine it is not the next gen design we will be getting in 2020, since it was mainly scrapped and brought back to the drawing board."

"Does anyone remember Rich in a video saying once something about a certain nextgen console maybe utilising Jaguar still? How that rumour was terrifying?

It makes you wonder "


You missed his ORIGINAL post. What does "Makes you wonder" mean?
 
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