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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Sinthor

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No. Nearly all the insiders last gen got it right. That's how we knew about used games and online check ins and kinect months in advance.

This gen insiders have already been right about the Xbox so far. We will see if they ere right about the ps5.

However, every gen there is influx of ms astroturfers. This website banned many after one of the mods was sent an email with a list of dozen or astroturfers.

What are you calling an "astroturfer?" I haven't heard that term in reference to video games before?
 

bitbydeath

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There was a Eurogamer article AFAIK in January 2013 showed leaks that XBox Durango was 1.2 TF while the Playstation Orbis was listed as 1.8 TF. Going by that, we should have had PS5 specs by now. But the only thing we have is the GitHub leak, and that’s heavily debated.

We’ve had a lot of different leaks. Discerning which one is right is the hardest part. We may be able to weed out a heap of them now it’s confirmed RDNA2.
 

SlimySnake

Flashless at the Golden Globes
What are you calling an "astroturfer?" I haven't heard that term in reference to video games before?
Paid shills who big up companies online.
Yup.

Last gen was a weird one because specs seem to leak for both Xbox One and PS4, and it even included schematics. I remember seeing them where Xbox One would have specs showing 8gb DDR3 and 68 gb/s second and whatever. A gaffer had also re-posted an even earlier leak in 2012 where some insider leaked Xbox One and PS4 specs. The final specs for both systems were pretty close. And that was a good 1.5 years out.


last gen specs were leaked after that dude hacked Sony and MS. He was caught by the FBI and sent to prison iirc.

I forget his name but you can Google it. Contrary to popular belief, Ubisoft devs didn't leak last gen specs.
 
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bitbydeath

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The most accurate leak we’ve had so far is this one below from 2018 since it contains many things that are simply unguessable like the Harry Potter game which came to fruition. Long before the wired articles which showed the hardware side to be 100% correct.

I'm a third party small developer from EU,for the last 8 months i've been helping a well known company in a AAA game development that is set to release in 2020 as a lunch game for PS5.

Some infos that i'd like to share that are 99% correct(i say 99% because small incremental hardware change can occur till 2020,although specs are set in stone).

-PS5 official info from Sony somewhere around next E3(Sony will not be participating on E3),i'd say Q2 2019 small reveal

-PS5 release March 2020 or November 2020,not yet finalized

-backward compatible

-physical games & ps store

-ps plus & ps plus premium ( premium-beta early access,create private servers,

-specs CPU 7nm ryzen 8 core 16 threads,unknown speed

**GPU 7nm Navi arhitecture around 14TF,its gonna be powerful and power efficient,Sony working with Amd for Navi,some sort of Ray Tracing but will not focus on that,**more focus with VR and 4k,much better bandwith overall

24GB Gddr6 + 4gb ddr4 for os,we have 32 gb dev kits

-2tb hdd some sort of nand flash

-8k upscaling

-PSVR2 in 2020 also,reveal with ps5,big resolution boost probably 2560x1440,120hz,220 field of view,eye tracking,wireless,battery life 4-5 hours,headphones integrated,less motion sickenss,no breaker box,much less cable management,much more focus on VR for aaa games,price around 250$

-dualshock 5,some sort of camera inside for VR,more analog precision for fps games,something similiar to steam analog trackpad

-price 499$,100$ loss per console at a beginning

Ps4 exclusive launch games that i know of

Gran Turismo 7 (vr)

Pubg remaster 4k f2p with ps+ only on ps5

Last of us 2 remaster

Ghost of Tsushima remaster

2-3 aaa games more + psvr2 games

Non exclusive ps5 games 2020

Battlefield bad company 3

Harry potter

Gta 6 Holiday 2020 most probably,not hearing anything ps4 related (hearing that Sony is paying huge money to secure 1 month time exclusive for ps5). Been hearing rumors about Miami and New York,so 2 big cities,but im not sure if thats 100% true

Assassins creed

Horizon 2 so far in 2021
 
Sure man, you mean like when Microsoft had to boost the Xbox One specs in the last minute in 2013 to compete with Sony? :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:


That was a desperation measure as the gap between the two was overwhelming... this time they will be within 10% and both will be fine...
 
This week, Sony got rid of the last PS4 related info not known so far that could be holding them back, GoT's release date, and AMD released some technical data about PS5 Sony themselves never clarified before. It's definitely time for them to talk more about their next gen console.

You know, I was actually thinking about this too. Out of nowhere, Sony dropped the GoT release date which was the last of the “Sony 4” that needed to be released out of TLOU2, Spider-Man, GoW, and of course, GoT. Now that they have gotten that out of the way, there really is nothing else for them news wise to talk about for this current generation. I still don’t think we will hear anything until next month though.
 

Null_Key

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I know a lot of people are anxious about learning about the PS5, including myself. I think Sony may have intended to reveal some information about PS5, but I think the Corona virus probably did deterred it to some level. None the less if you are to go by timelines, Sony didn't truly unveal the PS4 until E3, we had a small event from Mark Cerny revealing the PS4, but the meat of the announcement came much later. Looking that as gauge, more than likely that's what will happen, while Sony isn't participating in E3, that doesn't stop them from having an invitation only event around the same time. In fact I predict that Sony's Full PS5 reveal will probably happen right after the E3, so as to make adjustment based on competition, such as series X price, etc. I think we will see some sort of state of play maybe showing the new controller and maybe some of the 3rd party games and exclusive games on the horizon in between. I think Microsoft early reveal was to put pressure to reveal Sony's hand, and while the media applauds MS reveals, it may also play into MS hands if Sony bites. Any big corporations should be wary of the competition, but shouldn't be bullied or force into revealing something prematurely, especially if it gives the competition time to make adjustments or build momentum. Right now I think Microsoft has great momentum and have some excellent titles on the horizon, but Sony no doubt will probably counter quite viciously and will try to steal that momentum. After finding out that PS5 is more or less RDNA 2, I've moved on from needing any spec reveals to be honest, I just want to see the games and what odd design they came up with for the PS5. Both system are going to pack a wallop and I could care less about the specs, because it most likely is similar. Its about the games now and it's quite exciting to be a gamer. I'm ready to preorder both system and since it's both backwards compatible, no need to keep the older systems, now bring on the games.
 

Sinthor

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Paid shills who big up companies online.

last gen specs were leaked after that dude hacked Sony and MS. He was caught by the FBI and sent to prison iirc.

I forget his name but you can Google it. Contrary to popular belief, Ubisoft devs didn't leak last gen specs.

Ah, I get it. Astro-turf as in they are fake grass- fake fans who are really just trying to rep a company. Nice one! Thanks!
 

HawarMiran

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Paid shills who big up companies online.

last gen specs were leaked after that dude hacked Sony and MS. He was caught by the FBI and sent to prison iirc.

I forget his name but you can Google it. Contrary to popular belief, Ubisoft devs didn't leak last gen specs.
He was the hero we needed but didn't deserve. He "died" for us. We need a new messiah. Rince and repeat every generation :p
 
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Deleted member 779727

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We're most likely not getting a reveal until mid April/early May. If Sony's planning a later but before E3 reveal then personally I'd prefer mid May, the weather's nicer and good news coupled with good weather is always a plus.
 
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semicool

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I miss SonGoku SonGoku

Hopefully he’s alright, out there somewhere enjoying the death of github
Death of GitHub? Do you know what Github even is and it's use in the industry? You realize that many Sony sponsored projects most likely use private repos in GitHub too? Not to mention probably a majority of the software industry etc...

Many posts in this thread from many different posters show a substantial ignorance on this subject.
 
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Death of GitHub? Do you know what Github even is and it's use in the industry?
Wondering what github has to do with coal and steel?:messenger_confused:
mLyrnin.jpg

Source:https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/industry
He should be more clear then and state it how he means it and what he means correctly, otherwise who knows for certain.
 
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just remember that when developers be makin dem bouncy bootys, they betta not be makin dem ashey assez, cause I mean as much as I like realism, I dont want dem that real if you know what im sayin' they betta be lookin like someone put cocoa butter and coconut oil with a shimmer glistening affect (will need 12 titi flops with raytracing for dat! I dunno about 9.2 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL)
 

Gamernyc78

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just remember that when developers be makin dem bouncy bootys, they betta not be makin dem ashey assez, cause I mean as much as I like realism, I dont want dem that real if you know what im sayin' they betta be lookin like someone put cocoa butter and coconut oil with a shimmer glistening affect (will need 12 titi flops with raytracing for dat! I dunno about 9.2 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL)

Ouuuu I luv me a Mami or nice chocolate thing coming outside all glistening, lip gloss poppin with Shea butta all over dem on a hot summa day ray-tracing showing dat fat ass and fat punani

👀👀💦💦👌👌🔥🔥
 
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semicool

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Wondering what github has to do with coal and steel?:messenger_confused:
mLyrnin.jpg

Source:https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/industry

You just proved my point exactly, ignorance. People talking about things they don't understand very well or are not familiar with, however, making matters worse, they pretend like they do:



Size of the industry:
According to industry analyst Gartner, the size of the worldwide software industry in 2013 was US$407.3 billion, an increase of 4.8% over 2012. As in past years, the largest four software vendors were Microsoft, Oracle Corporation, IBM, and SAP respectively.
 
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Koopatrol

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1. GDC has been postponed, I forgot to what month but I know it’s not happening this month. I may be wrong though, since they might be doing online presentations.

2. Don’t you think that Microsoft revealing Lockhart this month (IF IT HAPPENS) gives credence to the “$499 PS5” rumours? Cause otherwise, if PS5’s price was anywhere below that, Lockhart would’ve been scrapped at that point.

Hmm, I didn't even hear about it being postponed, or I forgot lol. I guess I heard about MS doing a livestream thing so I assumed it was still going on. But yeah, I still think Sony had probably planned around that event and will keep rolling with what they have planned in regards to a potential PS5 reveal. Unless corona fucked up their plans.

And the whole Lockhart thing is pretty interesting. I do tend to agree though. I feel like if PS5 is $399, that will be a steal and I think it would be heavily favored against Xbox. I'm not sure who would buy Lockhart, other than people who want to stay in the Xbox ecosystem or if the Series X is a monstrous $599 (which I doubt). OR, if Lockhart could get a boost to its GPU, then it could be favored. If PS5 is $499, there's definitely much more of a reason for Lockhart to exist. Then, MS will be able to win clearly on the price front.

People talk about why we haven't heard about the PS5. But what about Lockhart? It's because Lockhart is the reaction to the PS5, so they want to reveal it to undercut it in price while also showing a demonstrably bigger leap in next gen. The thing is, if priced somewhat similarly to PS5 ($299 vs $399) while being underwhelming compared to PS5, how would it fare? Would it matter, since $399 seems to be the "sweet spot"? Would $299 become the new sweet spot? There are very many ways to read the situation IMO. Maybe I'm underestimating the power of an entry-level next gen console at $299. In general I think it just remains to be seen, because nothing like this has really happened before at the start of a generation. Only thing I can think of is 60 GB and 20 GB PS3's at launch, but there were no differences in power. Memory and some differences in tech for BC, I think.
 
this may be an odd question, but is the Blu-ray association going to make 8k ultra Blu-ray disks with 8k diodes? I am thinking it will need to go more towards the ultraviolet spectrum, so in essence it wont be Blu-ray disks it will be purple-ray lol

and why 4k to 8k? Why not make games run at 5k, 5.5k, 6k, 6.5k, 7k, 7.5k ? HDMI 2.1 can go UP to 8k, its not limited to 2k, 4k, and 8k
 
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I'm more interested that these newer revisions of dev kits that supposedly rolled out recently haven't shown up in pictures of yet, nor have any indications that they are stronger than the original iterations.

Sony is really keeping a tight lid on stuff this time.
 

TLZ

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I know a lot of people are anxious about learning about the PS5, including myself. I think Sony may have intended to reveal some information about PS5, but I think the Corona virus probably did deterred it to some level. None the less if you are to go by timelines, Sony didn't truly unveal the PS4 until E3, we had a small event from Mark Cerny revealing the PS4, but the meat of the announcement came much later. Looking that as gauge, more than likely that's what will happen, while Sony isn't participating in E3, that doesn't stop them from having an invitation only event around the same time. In fact I predict that Sony's Full PS5 reveal will probably happen right after the E3, so as to make adjustment based on competition, such as series X price, etc. I think we will see some sort of state of play maybe showing the new controller and maybe some of the 3rd party games and exclusive games on the horizon in between. I think Microsoft early reveal was to put pressure to reveal Sony's hand, and while the media applauds MS reveals, it may also play into MS hands if Sony bites. Any big corporations should be wary of the competition, but shouldn't be bullied or force into revealing something prematurely, especially if it gives the competition time to make adjustments or build momentum. Right now I think Microsoft has great momentum and have some excellent titles on the horizon, but Sony no doubt will probably counter quite viciously and will try to steal that momentum. After finding out that PS5 is more or less RDNA 2, I've moved on from needing any spec reveals to be honest, I just want to see the games and what odd design they came up with for the PS5. Both system are going to pack a wallop and I could care less about the specs, because it most likely is similar. Its about the games now and it's quite exciting to be a gamer. I'm ready to preorder both system and since it's both backwards compatible, no need to keep the older systems, now bring on the games.
Holy wall of text Batman! :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

TBiddy

Member
Ouuuu I luv me a Mami or nice chocolate thing coming outside all glistening, lip gloss poppin with Shea butta all over dem on a hot summa day ray-tracing showing dat fat ass and fat punani

👀👀💦💦👌👌🔥🔥

While we all appreciate this eloquently worded description of your favorite type of women - maybe take it to another thread?
 

Kumomeme

Member
this may be an odd question, but is the Blu-ray association going to make 8k ultra Blu-ray disks with 8k diodes? I am thinking it will need to go more towards the ultraviolet spectrum, so in essence it wont be Blu-ray disks it will be purple-ray lol

and why 4k to 8k? Why not make games run at 5k, 5.5k, 6k, 6.5k, 7k, 7.5k ? HDMI 2.1 can go UP to 8k, its not limited to 2k, 4k, and 8k
probably to follow display specs which is tv, monitor standard?
 

FranXico

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SonGoku SonGoku is extremely open minded, he would have never been as dismissive of the github leaks as others have been.

Go look at his posts, always intelligent and willing to consider even points that run contrary to his positions. His presence is greatly missed.
Hahahahaha. No.

On the contrary, his critical thinking would have meant he would never have assumed the github leaks to tell the whole story.

Maybe with him around, people would have taken things more critically, instead of based on faith.
 

Bligtgate

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After AMD conference i was sure that PS5 would be 12TF the same as Xbox. But now no so sure.. after reading everything out there on the internet plus gaf and era.. seeing every videos on youtube plus Twitter ect. Im back in to thinking it’s either 9.2 or 10TF, why?

75% of does github leak were right about xbox. But they were wrong about RDNA2. Everybody was thinking it was rdna1 cause everyone assumed RDNA2 was 7nm+ but after AMD press conference they made clear it was 7nm same as RDNA1 just more watt efficiency and plus we dont know literally shit about PS5 and come on. They read those tweets they read those post and i do have a feeeling that Sony wouldn’t let MS flexing like that if they were more powerful. I mean come on!! Remember the sony from 2013? They clap back at every chance they got.. and now your telling me they are silent cause they’re not quite ready to revel info!! And how come MS are ready Before them when every thing we Heard at first was that MS was being schedule with next gen.. and now first to show the console first to show specs first to show confidence in their product... sssh something smell fishy.. and BTW i hope im wrong but i dout it
 
After AMD conference i was sure that PS5 would be 12TF the same as Xbox. But now no so sure.. after reading everything out there on the internet plus gaf and era.. seeing every videos on youtube plus Twitter ect. Im back in to thinking it’s either 9.2 or 10TF, why?

75% of does github leak were right about xbox. But they were wrong about RDNA2. Everybody was thinking it was rdna1 cause everyone assumed RDNA2 was 7nm+ but after AMD press conference they made clear it was 7nm same as RDNA1 just more watt efficiency and plus we dont know literally shit about PS5 and come on. They read those tweets they read those post and i do have a feeeling that Sony wouldn’t let MS flexing like that if they were more powerful. I mean come on!! Remember the sony from 2013? They clap back at every chance they got.. and now your telling me they are silent cause they’re not quite ready to revel info!! And how come MS are ready Before them when every thing we Heard at first was that MS was being schedule with next gen.. and now first to show the console first to show specs first to show confidence in their product... sssh something smell fishy.. and BTW i hope im wrong but i dout it

Sony from 2013 lost ground with ps3. Ps4 nearly finished Xbox. Xbox as a brand will be irrelevant when sony release the ps5 information. It will be the last console war imo and sony will only have nintendo to finish off at the end of the generation. Nintendo will then make games exclusively for ps6 and mobile.
 
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Bligtgate

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Sony from 2013 lost ground with ps3. Ps4 nearly finished Xbox. Xbox as a brand will be irrelevant when sony release the ps5 information. It will be the last console war imo and sony will only have nintendo to finish off at the end of the generation. Nintendo will then make games exclusively for ps6 and mobile.
You think this gen xbox will be done for and that will be their last console ect? 🤔🤔
 
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