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Polygon -Sony’s silence on PS5 has done wonders for the next-gen Xbox

TTOOLL

Member
The reason you'd delay releasing info about the next console is so that you don't dissuade people from buying the current console. It's why apple waits so long so they don't inadvertently tank thier iPhone sales. Microsoft has already written off Xbox One it's why they're trying to move the generation forward and hit the reset button.

From the perspective of Sony it makes sense but from the perspective of the consumers Sony deliberately wants less informed consumers to buy a soon to be obsolete console.

This is the only plausible and sensible way to see this. MS has given up on last/current gen and desperately wants people to move on to their next console. They lost the battle. Sony still has good games to be released this year for PS4.
 

Butz

Banned
So I was right. At least Sony offers solid variety instead of next installments only. Also it does not mean that I am into every exclusive game it has but I prefer their approach and wish others do this a similar way.
Just because there's SOMETHING doesn't mean it's not a drought. If I have no food for a week I'm not starting to eat my own shit either lmao
 
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ethomaz

Banned
Since the other guy was posting 3rd party games here's a list of Microsoft published games in 2020
Minecraft Dungeons
Gears Tactics
Wasteland 3
Bleeding Edge
Ori and the Will of the Wisps
Psychonauts 2
Tell me Why
Crossfire X (sp from Remedy)
Microsoft Flight Simulator
The Cuphead Expansion
Forza Motorsport 8
Halo Infinite
Age of Empires 4 (likely, according to PCGamer)

And we can most likely add 2-3 games to that list after E3.

Now what I personally am looking forward to from that list?
Ori, Psychonauts 2, Flight Sim, Halo and Age of Empires.
It is funny how do you guys needs to rely with next-generation releases to make a list :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Just because there's SOMETHING doesn't mean it's not a drought. If I have no food for a week I'm not starting to eat my own shit either lmao

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Butz

Banned
So we reached the point where we are now defending and praising soulless formulaic zombie survival games which received lukewarm reception and an overhyped walking simulator that didn't even stay exclusive for over a year in here?
In a few minutes The Order 1886 and Knack are going to become avantgarde masterpieces as well.
 

molasar

Banned
Just because there's SOMETHING doesn't mean it's not a drought. If I have no food for a week I'm not starting to eat my own shit either lmao

game (does not matter if it catches your interest) = game

food (does not matter how it tastes) ≠ shit
 
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Kagey K

Banned
It is funny how do you guys needs to rely with next-generation releases to make a list :messenger_tears_of_joy:
Wow Series X going to be starting out strong then. I could have sworn only Halo and Hellblade had only been announced for it so far.

Even better for people interested in it,
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
So we reached the point where we are now defending and praising soulless formulaic zombie survival games which received lukewarm reception and an overhyped walking simulator that didn't even stay exclusive for over a year in here?
In a few minutes The Order 1886 and Knack are going to become avantgarde masterpieces as well.

I just thought your juvenile analogy was retarded.

Keep going, it’s entertaining.
 

Butz

Banned
game (does not matter if it catches your interest) = game

food (does not matter what taste it has) ≠ shit
Hey man if you're happy with yet another zombie survival open world game just because it has a slightly higher budget then all the other millions of zombie survival games that have been plaguing the industry for 2 decades then all the best to you.
I had a much better alternative on PC, called Dying Light, which at least had some nice parcour movement.
 

Butz

Banned
I just thought your juvenile analogy was retarded.

Keep going, it’s entertaining.
Days Gone is just that though, shit.
And to like Death Stranding I dont know you probably have to be a fanboy of all those random actors Kojimbo threw in just to make it seem interesting I guess.
 

EDMIX

Member
That doesn’t change the fact that the past doesn’t dictate the future like the PS2 to PS3 example and the 360 to the one. . While your mind is already made up there are likely many that aren’t.

It doesn't, but clearly it gives a good indication of what is likely to happen. No different then those who buy Madden, Call Of Duty etc. They have a understanding of what to likely expect and behave as such.

Sony has a strong history of single player games and supporting their systems...THE WHOLE FUCKING GENERATION, not simply for a bit. Even the system that failed, outsold MS and had a stronger lineup, so even at their weakest, their support of new IP and single player titles was on full throttle. That isn't something that is going to be forgotten by gamers. Not when Dreams, Ghost Of Tsushima are releasing the last year of PS4. it shows Sony like always is deeply committed to new IP and supporting single player games.

So PS2 just like PS3 had new IPs and single player games.


That is the thing that is the most consistent thing about the brand. You can count on Sony to support their system the whole gen with new IP. Its why its a day 1 for many of us. I mean, thats like trying to say you can't count on Madden fans or Call Of Duty fans....buying Call Of Duty lol

So we can expect Horizon 2 on PS5, Spiderman 2 on PS5, God Of War 2 on PS5, Ghost Of Tsushima and for many, that is enough to buy it day 1 KNOWING that is how Sony treats their IPs. Sorry but, Sony got PS5 sales JUST based on what they did with PS4.

You don't move 100 million units and start a bunch of new IPs, without getting them sequels next gen, so you can expect many of those gamers to buy PS5 for the sequels of the very games that SOLD THEM ON PS4!

DForce DForce They not trying to hear those facts
 
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molasar

Banned
Hey man if you're happy with yet another zombie survival open world game just because it has a slightly higher budget then all the other millions of zombie survival games that have been plaguing the industry for 2 decades then all the best to you.
I had a much better alternative on PC, called Dying Light, which at least had some nice parcour movement.

I already stated that I am not into every exclusive game Sony has but I am not calling it a drought then. Regarding zombie games my favorite ones are RE1-3 originals and I have not found their replacements yet.
 

Kagey K

Banned
It doesn't, but clearly it gives a good indication of what is likely to happen. No different then those who buy Madden, Call Of Duty etc. They have a understanding of what to likely expect and behave as such.

Sony has a strong history of single player games and supporting their systems...THE WHOLE FUCKING GENERATION, not simply for a bit. Even the system that failed, outsold MS and had a stronger lineup, so even at their weakest, their support of new IP and single player titles was on full throttle. That isn't something that is going to be forgotten by gamers. Not when Dreams, Ghost Of Tsushima are releasing the last year of PS4. it shows Sony like always is deeply committed to new IP and supporting single player games.

So PS2 just like PS3 had new IPs and single player games.


That is the thing that is the most consistent thing about the brand. You can count on Sony to support their system the whole gen with new IP. Its why its a day 1 for many of us. I mean, thats like trying to say you can't count on Madden fans or Call Of Duty fans....buying Call Of Duty lol
Interesting so the 4 exclusives (2 of which are published by MS and one Phil helped fund to come from Japan) I’m playing this month including one new IP is Microsoft’s lack of support.

TIL.
 

ethomaz

Banned
What's the other next gen games?
I will help you...

Minecraft Dungeons - DLC
Gears Tactics
Wasteland 3 - PS4
Bleeding Edge
Ori and the Will of the Wisps
Psychonauts 2 - PS4
Tell me Why
Crossfire X (sp from Remedy)
Tell me Why
The Cuphead Expansion - DLC
Forza Motorsport 8 - Next-gen
Halo Infinite - Next-gen
Age of Empires 4 - No release date

How many games are MS?And how many games are AAA in that list?
Tour list just show the lack of support from MS to Xbox One this year.

Do you want me to make a list for PS4 games?
 
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Butz

Banned
I already stated that I am not into every exclusive game Sony has but I am not calling it a drought then. Regarding zombie games my favorite ones are RE1-3 originals and I have not found their replacements yet.
So if there was Knack coming out in 2019 instead of Gays Gone it would still not be a drought?
 

Butz

Banned
I will help you...

Minecraft Dungeons - DLC
Gears Tactics
Wasteland 3 - PS4
Bleeding Edge
Ori and the Will of the Wisps
Psychonauts 2 - PS4
Tell me Why
Crossfire X (sp from Remedy)
Tell me Why
The Cuphead Expansion - DLC
Forza Motorsport 8 - Next-gen
Halo Infinite - Next-gen
Age of Empires 4 - No release date

Do you want me to make a list for PS4 games? And how many games are AAA in that list?
Tour list just show the lack of support from MS to Xbox One this year.

Minecraft Dungeons is not a DLC it's its own game.
Halo Infinite is a cross-gen game, it's also on Xbox One.
>PS4
I very clearly stated Microsoft published games as they're 1st party studios now.
 

Kagey K

Banned
Just because there is not title reveled doesn’t mean it won’t have lol
BTW God Fall is not Sony game.
Well aware.

I figured you’d tell me about those next gen games since you are the one making claims about it. Until then all we have is what we know.
 

EDMIX

Member
Interesting so the 4 exclusives (2 of which are published by MS and one Phil helped fund to come from Japan) I’m playing this month including one new IP is Microsoft’s lack of support.

TIL.

Very few are AAA and clearly won't move units that you'll see from stuff like Ghost Of Tsushima. Not all exclusives are created equal.

The reality is, MS near the end of a generation basically stops making new AAA IP.

Sony goes all out with new AAA IP....

The numbers don't lie bud. They just don't support their systems with new AAA IP as much as Sony does. Its why Sony has several new IP that moved massive millions of units. Ghost will be next, none of the new IP MS is making this year will move more units or be as massive.

That is why I'm buying a PS5 day 1. Ghost clearly is well funded, no corners cut and not some free to play cash grab, indie looking title like you are seeing from most of what MS is putting out this year.

We might know Godfall is coming to PS5, but many of us are buying PS5 based on sequels we know will likely happen. What they did with PS4 was good enough to have me buy PS5 day 1.

Spiderman 2, God Of War 2, Horizon 2....annnnnnnnd sold day 1. MS has done anything this gen to have me even remotely looking for a Series X day 1, the fact that they are even refusing to make any titles that ONLY are made for the system has made that choice very, very easy. So Sony is the only one even making next gen games btw.

MS is making XONE games and porting them.....

No thanks..
 
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ethomaz

Banned
Well aware.

I figured you’d tell me about those next gen games since you are the one making claims about it. Until then all we have is what we know.
I’m claiming if you are including next-gen releases on Xbox to counter the point of lack of support for the actual gen then you should add PS5 releases on the list no matter what they are.

We need to remove PS4 games from his list too.

Plus where are the AAA releases?
 
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Kagey K

Banned
Very few are AAA and clearly won't move units that you'll see from stuff like Ghost Of Tsushima. Not all exclusives are created equal.

The reality is, MS near the end of a generation basically stops making new AAA IP.

Sony goes all out with new AAA IP....

The numbers don't lie bud. They just don't support their systems with new AAA IP as much as Sony does. Its why Sony has several new IP that moved massive millions of units. Ghost will be next, none of the new IP MS is making this year will move more units or be as massive.

That is why I'm buying a PS5 day 1. Ghost clearly is well funded, no corners cut and not some free to play cash grab, indie looking title like you are seeing from most of what MS is putting out this year.
👌

I don’t care if games sell systems, I care if I enjoy them while playing them. 🤷‍♂️

I think you are over predicting the number of systems GoT is going to move though. Everyone knows next gen is coming, even if Sony decided they don’t want to talk about it anymore.
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Days Gone is just that though, shit.
And to like Death Stranding I dont know you probably have to be a fanboy of all those random actors Kojimbo threw in just to make it seem interesting I guess.

Bro, it was a retarded analogy, you silly little shiteater (your words not mine), just take the L.

Got Dayum!
 

Kagey K

Banned
I’m claiming if you are including next-gen releases on Xbox to counter the point of Lack of support for the actual gen then you should add PS5 releases on the list no matter what they are.
So which of those games listed were next gen?

Halo (cross gen) and Forza 8 (which hasn’t even been officially announced.) Plus if all MS games are still coming to XB1 doesn’t that make them cross gen? Or still coming to XB1.
 
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Haven't seen 1 single person say that Sony's silence will potentially make them buy a PS5. Have seen loads though that didn't own an Xbox that have put the Series X on their buy list thanks to what MS have communicated so far.

Sony's silence has been absolutely gold for MS.

People seem to forget Sony lost half their user base in the PS3 era because of stupid decisions. Carry on like this and the same is waiting for them come next gen.
 
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Butz

Banned
Bro, it was a retarded analogy, you silly little shiteater (your words not mine), just take the L.

Got Dayum!

Take the L for what? I didn't have to play through those awful games and then go online and defend them because of buyers remorse lmao :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

molasar

Banned
So if there was Knack coming out in 2019 instead of Gays Gone it would still not be a drought?
As far as I know Sony has started releasing two exclusive big titles every year for PS4 at some point and Knack is not considered as one of them.
 

CervantesPR1

Neo Member
yes it would be cool if we could get a reveal of the PS5 soon but at the same time, as a playstation gamer, I'm being well fed and not starved to death like xbox gamers are with cartoony low budget gamepass fodder

PS4 has dreams, FF7 (timed) TLOU part 2, launching in may and ghost of tsushima launching a month after. These are BIG GAMES that people care about. I would asume sony does not want people to talk about PS5 when these huge games are coming out.

The silence sucks but its not like theres no great PS4 AAA budget exclusives to play in the meantime.
 

Butz

Banned
yes it would be cool if we could get a reveal of the PS5 soon but at the same time, as a playstation gamer, I'm being well fed and not starved to death like xbox gamers are with cartoony low budget gamepass fodder

PS4 has dreams, FF7 (timed) TLOU part 2, launching in may and ghost of tsushima launching a month after. These are BIG GAMES that people care about. I would asume sony does not want people to talk about PS5 when these huge games are coming out.

The silence sucks but its not like theres no great PS4 AAA budget exclusives to play in the meantime.
Didn't Dreams flop?
 

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
Don't bother bro. They'll tell you games like Death Stranding and Days Gone are masterpieces but games like Gears 5 that scored better across the board isn't, just because lol.

Lol, sure sure... that is what it is. What I like about Days Gone, beside the game itself (thanks for reminding me), was the threads setup to celebrate the supposed death of the game based on MetaCritic average scores that were quite hilariously timed with the game actually reporting strong sales lol. The game also received TONS of support from the devs and if you want to avoid it so be it... the game is not any worse if you miss the party :p.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Take the L for what? I didn't have to play through those awful games and then go online and defend them because of buyers remorse lmao :messenger_tears_of_joy:

I never bought Days Gone, or Spider-Man, or a lot of others. Shocking I know! They have a variety that’s a spice of life.

The analogy was and still is shit, because a game is a game, there was no drought.

You sound like a child. I’ll wait for your response to bring the focus back on the game you never played in which you don’t like, deflecting from your retarded analogy.

I have a disposable income, I never get buyer remorse, not to the point where I have to brag about $1 rental services as if it’s all I see those games worth. I buy what I want to play, and don’t buy what I don’t want to play. Novel concept, I know.
 

Gavon West

Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Fair enough, you keep your cards close to your chest. I want to say a number, but it may be the entire deck... ;).
Seriously, you keep dropping this SonyGAF victim card repeatedly and it is getting a bit bothersome unsubstantiated paranoia.
I think you're reading a bit too much into my post and simply playing the victim yourself. You feeling pegged, salty? This is called Sony GaF for a reason. That much is certain.

If you knew who really sounded paranoid right now, you'd probably STFU. So, yeah...
 

Butz

Banned
Lol, sure sure... that is what it is. What I like about Days Gone, beside the game itself (thanks for reminding me), was the threads setup to celebrate the supposed death of the game based on MetaCritic average scores that were quite hilariously timed with the game actually reporting strong sales lol. The game also received TONS of support from the devs and if you want to avoid it so be it... the game is not any worse if you miss the party :p.
I heard Fortnite and Call of Duty are the best games as they also make a lot of money.
 
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