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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Bo_Hazem

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On the subject of tvs, I used to have a ks8000 Samsung, and by lord the backlight was awful. Any dark scene was ruined because there was this glow on random spots, it was just terrible. Shame because the tv wasn’t that bad, but that glow... ugh...

Ive got an OLED now and made a huge problem for myself, because I likely won’t be getting another OLED next time, but these blacks, by god, I don’t want to leave them! Even after a few years of owning one, I still have that weird “what just happened” moment when an advert comes on at night and I think the tv has gone off. Pure black, no light, utterly gorgeous.

I just hope by the time microLED's come out that OLED's might come with a new solution that will put burn-in's headaches to rest. In the meanwhile, they're not for me as they'll 100% won't last few months from purchase with my usage.
 

kareemna

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An LED TV with FLAD (Full Array Local Dimming) is one thing, the real deal is the algorithm used and the amount of zones. Take note that with some manufacturers and tv models Game mode will force a different algorithm if you turn on local dimming since it needs to minimize input latency.

Twitter is a clusterf*ck when it comes to ps5 and XSX. :messenger_mr_smith_who_are_you_going_to_call:
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
I just hope by the time microLED's come out that OLED's might come with a new solution that will put burn-in's headaches to rest. In the meanwhile, they're not for me as they'll 100% won't last few months from purchase with my usage.

Oh, I’ve got my eye on MicroLED big time, I just hope that they reach a decent price. I’m not in the market for a new tv yet, but likely by mid next year I’ll have the itch, even more so with the new consoles taking massive advantage of it all. I can’t help but feel a 120hrz, HDR, 8k MicroLED 65” minimum TV will be dirt cheap........................


Twitter is a clusterf*ck when it comes to ps5 and XSX. :messenger_mr_smith_who_are_you_going_to_call:

I posted about the Uk bog roll situation, how they are being sold on eBay for massive money, and because I posted it at 9:28am some fanboy thought I was leaking information about 9tf PS5... You can’t make this shit up 🤣🤣🤣
 
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kareemna

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I posted about the Uk bog roll situation, how they are being sold on eBay for massive money, and because I posted it at 9:28am some fanboy thought I was leaking information about 9tf PS5... You can’t make this shit up 🤣🤣🤣

It is all over the place, they even rephrase old tweets change numbers based on forum threads they read.

if i say....
PS5:
Zen 2 5.0GHz 8 cores 16 threads
80 CUs 2.0GHz 20 TFLOPs +
24 GDDR6 960GB/s

Wait till they tweet about it.:messenger_unamused:
 

Amaranty

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I will probably go QLED for the entirety of the next gen and than MicroLED after that.
Check reviews on Rtings.com. I will stay away from Samsung TV's as long as they continue running 120 Hz PWM dimming in game mode.

An LED TV with FLAD (Full Array Local Dimming) is one thing, the real deal is the algorithm used and the amount of zones. Take note that with some manufacturers and tv models Game mode will force a different algorithm if you turn on local dimming since it needs to minimize input latency.

Twitter is a clusterf*ck when it comes to ps5 and XSX. :messenger_mr_smith_who_are_you_going_to_call:
That's true. HDTVTest did a test between LG C9 and Samsung Q90R and the local dimming was quite poor in game mode on the Q90R.
 
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Check reviews on Rtings.com. I will stay away from Samsung TV's as long as they continue running 120 Hz PWM dimming in game mode.
I don't exactly know that much about TVs and this tech stuff, and Samsung is the only one planning Qled for 2020?
Honestly I don't want to change TVs every three years, I want one to stick with for a long while.
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
UK has decided to carry on regardless, but to try and stay away from people if you have a cough, and prepare yourselves for loved ones to die - but it's a price we need to pay because money ...

I don’t know why Boris didn’t just come out and say it. We won’t do common sense things everybody else is doing, because MONEY. What a complete and total twat of a man. Who goes on national TV to address the nation, tell them to prepare for their loved ones to die, and then follow it up with “we won’t be doing anything, wash your hands, you tits”. Incredible.
 
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DrDamn

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I don't exactly know that much about TVs and this tech stuff, and Samsung is the only one planning Qled for 2020?
Honestly I don't want to change TVs every three years, I want one to stick with for a long while.

I went OLED (C9) at the start of this year. I am a little concerned about longevity - last Sony screen had served me well for 8 years - so was seriously considering QLED. The clincher for me was price and picture quality. Samsung kept the Q90R price relatively high so it was £1150 vs £1800 in favour of the OLED when I pulled the trigger. Even if it only lasts 4 years I can pick another one up after that for a similar price to the QLED. Picture quality is a preference thing, but when I was erring on the side of QLED when ever I compared the two in a well set up environment I always preferred the OLED picture. I get why some prefer the QLED though.
 
I went OLED (C9) at the start of this year. I am a little concerned about longevity - last Sony screen had served me well for 8 years - so was seriously considering QLED. The clincher for me was price and picture quality. Samsung kept the Q90R price relatively high so it was £1150 vs £1800 in favour of the OLED when I pulled the trigger. Even if it only lasts 4 years I can pick another one up after that for a similar price to the QLED. Picture quality is a preference thing, but when I was erring on the side of QLED when ever I compared the two in a well set up environment I always preferred the OLED picture. I get why some prefer the QLED though.
I still have a LED Full HD, so... lol
 
Japan Studio's SH soft-reboot it's not ready to be shown, and in the case of Kojima's Silent Hills revival, not even greenlighted. Plus, Sony has more than enough first-party content ready to show at the PS5 reveal that would be available during the launch window, so there's no need to show 2022 games just yet.
How do you know these stuff?
 

pasterpl

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I don’t know why Boris didn’t just come out and say it. We won’t do common sense things everybody else is doing, because MONEY. What a complete and total twat of a man. Who goes on national TV to address the nation, tell them to prepare for their loved ones to die, and then follow it up with “we won’t be doing anything, wash your hands, you tits”. Incredible.

Boris approach is just like the one presented in here; https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...on-uk-testing-outbreak-symptoms-a9396511.html

:D :D :D
 

Amaranty

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I don't exactly know that much about TVs and this tech stuff, and Samsung is the only one planning Qled for 2020?
Honestly I don't want to change TVs every three years, I want one to stick with for a long while.
For a regular user QLED is simply a marketing term for Samsung TVs. There's nothing special about it.

Since new TVs are releasing during Spring, I'd wait for reviews. The only proper review sites I've found so far is rtings.com and HDTVTest on Youtube.
 
Yeah I went from a Sony KDL46HX803 to the 55" C9. Big upgrade for me. The picture on the old screen was still really good mind, it was a great TV in it's day.
I don't even have HDR and mine is a pretty cheap tv right now, I mean I don't think is awfull but nothing close to be top tier. That's because I was planning in changing for next gen but I had to buy a new one just in the middle o this gen instead, so I went on the saving side.
QLED, OLED, whatever, it will be a big jump for me likely, I will wait for Black Friday 2020 and buy some high end TV, I'm planning to stay under 1000/800 dollars with sales.
 
For a regular user QLED is simply a marketing term for Samsung TVs. There's nothing special about it.

Since new TVs are releasing during Spring, I'd wait for reviews. The only proper review sites I've found so far is rtings.com and HDTVTest on Youtube.
Well, according to Wikipedia there are technical differences between OLED and QLED, they are different technologies for what I understand. It's not just "well it's OLED but it's Samsung so QLED it is".
 
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Bogroll

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I don’t know why Boris didn’t just come out and say it. We won’t do common sense things everybody else is doing, because MONEY. What a complete and total twat of a man. Who goes on national TV to address the nation, tell them to prepare for their loved ones to die, and then follow it up with “we won’t be doing anything, wash your hands, you tits”. Incredible.
I read it as working classes you go to work as usual and you'll lose some family and the higher up the classes you are it ain't so much of a problem for us (not me I m working class), woking from home etc and rich people stay away from people in general.
 
I read it as working classes you go to work as usual and you'll lose some family and the higher up the classes you are it ain't so much of a problem for us (not me I m working class), woking from home etc and rich people stay away from people in general.
Unfortunatly, this thing is different for everyone. Public workers are covered, employees could be covered depending on the contract, indipendent businesses are fucked and me... well, there is no "smart working" for me. The only "smart" thing that I have is take my ass out to work if I want paycheck these months.
 
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CyberPanda

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Oh, I’ve got my eye on MicroLED big time, I just hope that they reach a decent price. I’m not in the market for a new tv yet, but likely by mid next year I’ll have the itch, even more so with the new consoles taking massive advantage of it all. I can’t help but feel a 120hrz, HDR, 8k MicroLED 65” minimum TV will be dirt cheap........................
MicroLED is definitely to look out for in terms of competition towards OLED. But, MicroLED won't be cheap for mass market for another ~5-7 years.
 

CyberPanda

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Unfortunatly, this thing is different for everyone. Public workers are covered, employees could be covered depending on the contract, indipendent businesses are fucked and me... well, there is no "smart working" for me. The only "smart" thing that I have is take my ass out to work if I want paycheck these months.
What is your budget for your new TV?
 

Kusarigama

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Not saying it's a mediocre game, but is it as revered as Half-Life?

Ken Levine's new project is something that I've been following for the past 4 years and I believe that project will prove to gamers just how much more important CPU capabilities are when it comes to delivering actual generational leaps.
I have been wondering what Ken Levine has been cooking. He delivered a talk at gdc about narrative lego and I don't know anything beyond. Can you give a little more details on his new project?
 
I don’t know why Boris didn’t just come out and say it. We won’t do common sense things everybody else is doing, because MONEY. What a complete and total twat of a man. Who goes on national TV to address the nation, tell them to prepare for their loved ones to die, and then follow it up with “we won’t be doing anything, wash your hands, you tits”. Incredible.


Could be wrong, but I think that was the initial stance Italy took and they ended up paying(still) a dear price for it.
 
Could be wrong, but I think that was the initial stance Italy took and they ended up paying(still) a dear price for it.
Italy started to close some activities only now, they tried to educate the population with some general directives but people were literally doing like "yeah but I got to go on holidays you know..."
So they are locking down entire cities and regions, no one can go in or out, but if you want to stop this before hospitals go nuts I feel that closing the fucking world is the thing to do, at least now.
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
Classrooms and closed off large gatherings of people are breeding grounds for germs. That’s just common sense. You send your kids to school, they all mingle, and then they come home and give the germs to everybody around them. They go back the next day, spread the germs, and then go home and do it again. Before you know it, all the family have it. That’s with a common cold, something less severe as this. Once one kid in a class has a cold, you know it’s only a matter of time before all these kids get it and the staff have it.

Now thats a common cold. But what Boris is banking on, is that if the kids are off, they will get bored and want to go out to play. Yet that’s a “possibility” of something that will happen. If you go to school, that’s a definite. But everybody can see clear as day that the REAL reason Boris doesn’t want the kids off school is that parents and others will have to stay off work and stay indoor, which will mean bail outs ahoy and lower spending.

It’s all about money, and it’s very, very transparent. Money means more than peoples life, and that will never change.
 

Mod of War

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Want to know the stupid thing? After posting what I have, and reading a few things sent my way, I’ve seen other stories from other areas that have matched what I said (that wasn’t my original post or about me/related to), and a couple were from even before. I mean what else can I say? But alas, I’m here now the same as you all. I won’t be asking for any new info, and anything else I DO get I won’t be posting, that’s for bloody sure. I’ve learnt my lesson: Don’t trust the horde. My character was called into question and insults thrown my way, and that’s fine, this is the internet. But once my daughter was involved sexually, I was well and truly done with it all. Twitter just gave me the usual silence and deleted account bollocks, but it was clearly a fake (0/0 following count). But that’s enough for me to essentially say no, no more. From now on I’m plain clothes, and will just be here for the lulz. People will understand what’s happening at some point.

Anyway, so, what’s new? Have we passed 16tf yet? Are they delayed until 2057 yet? What did I miss 😆

Apparently we’re at 7TF. Yeah, I don’t know either.
 

Amaranty

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Well, according to Wikipedia there are technical differences between OLED and QLED, they are different technologies for what I understand. It's not just "well it's OLED but it's Samsung so QLED it is".
Sorry, they are different technologies. Even Sony LED and Samsung QLED use different technologies, but the process doesn't matter for the consumer. In fact Sony TVs usually offer more precise colours out of the box compared to Samsung TVs.

My point is that QLED is simply a marketing term. There is no secret sauce for Samsung TVs.
 
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Bo_Hazem

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Interestingly enough, with the newest expansion (Warlords) they re-implemented that amazing “entering dark zone” line back into Div2. I even loved the patch note that confirmed it. Was bummed when first playing Div2 and learning that it was no longer in-game....annnnd now where was that topic....ah, there it is.

Might jump back to Division 2, seems like it's feeling good. I liked it first but then I'm not a grindy gamer, can't take it for too long.
 

Bo_Hazem

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Consoles are a serious business. You should see my android mates face every time I get my iPhone out. The sheer rage that covers his face, he goes bright red, he just NEEDS to tell me how wrong I am and how much better android is, theres this fire that burns inside him. Football fans, music fans, film fans... You get them In all walks of life. I have no interest in it. I’ll play anything, on anything, watch anything, listen to anything read anything and talk about anything. My only stipulation is that I myself am enjoying myself. Why would I get off an entire segment of entertainment due to “loyalty”? Makes no damn sense.

Man, you tick every rivalry box, you only need to own Jeep/Land Cruiser/Defender and hate Nissan Patrol to be in the top most hated characters of all time list:

:messenger_pouting: Supports Liverpool
:messenger_pouting: Has iPhone
:messenger_pouting: Xbot

EDIT: Check your PM's for future death threats :messenger_pouting:
 
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Symax

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It has become apparently obvious that this thread has run its course. There is nothing to talk about anymore that would be on topic and hasn't been mention before. This is now a place for desperation and boredom. We should really stop bumping this thing to the top and let it sleep.
 
Might jump back to Division 2, seems like it's feeling good. I liked it first but then I'm not a grindy gamer, can't take it for too long.


I love it. Like Resident Evil 5 or Diablo, it really shines most with a group of friends. The developers are very open and active and push updates and communication about concerns very quickly. They are already talking new content and patches for issues the community has a week into the expansion.

Also, it is a game that definitely pushes the PS4. I think it would really benefit from enhanced BC on PS5 with a Boost mode and SSD support, if they don't do a straight PS5 port of it.

That is why I'm hoping there is more to the BC than just basic BC with PS4. Some games like Division 2 could really benefit from enhancements like that.
 

Bo_Hazem

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Where are you on Marvel vs DC? Star Wars vs Star Trek? Do you like pineapple on pizza?

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Well, I might slightly be DC > Marvel, I hate both Star Wards and Star Trek, and I LOVE pineapple on Pizza.

Well, since I was a little kid, my mom used to give me bananas with rice that can be with curry or other type of rice, used to eat cooked pear. Basically, I can eat nearly everything, I probably only hate plain coffee, or putting chicken next to beef/red meat feels insulting :messenger_tears_of_joy: I can eat grilled beef with honey, love it. So sweet and salty is not an issue.
 

Gamernyc78

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It has become apparently obvious that this thread has run its course. There is nothing to talk about anymore that would be on topic and hasn't been mention before. This is now a place for desperation and boredom. We should really stop bumping this thing to the top and let it sleep.

It ran its course about a month ago lol 😂
 

Gamernyc78

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Well, I might slightly be DC > Marvel, I hate both Star Wards and Star Trek, and I LOVE pineapple on Pizza.

Well, since I was a little kid, my mom used to give me bananas with rice that can be with curry or other type of rice, used to eat cooked pear. Basically, I can eat nearly everything, I probably only hate plain coffee, or putting chicken next to beef/red meat feels insulting :messenger_tears_of_joy: I can eat grilled beef with honey, love it. So sweet and salty is not an issue.
I loveeeee pineapple on pizza my fucking favorite.
 

Hatsuma

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Norway has shut down and most of the country are working from home now. I look outside and the streets are empty. Gives perspective on this whole next gen console business.

Right, it really does. Guess my school and other schools, the world is terrified of XsX (Sorry couldn't resist).
 

Gavin Stevens

Formerly 'o'dium'
Well, I might slightly be DC > Marvel, I hate both Star Wards and Star Trek, and I LOVE pineapple on Pizza.

Well, since I was a little kid, my mom used to give me bananas with rice that can be with curry or other type of rice, used to eat cooked pear. Basically, I can eat nearly everything, I probably only hate plain coffee, or putting chicken next to beef/red meat feels insulting :messenger_tears_of_joy: I can eat grilled beef with honey, love it. So sweet and salty is not an issue.

Marvel > DC
Star Wars <> Star Trek
pineapple should never go near a pizza oh my SHIT.

Sweet and salty popcorn is the business btw, but no cinema will do it.
 

PocoJoe

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Well, according to Wikipedia there are technical differences between OLED and QLED, they are different technologies for what I understand. It's not just "well it's OLED but it's Samsung so QLED it is".

QLED is not an OLED!!

Qled is just Samsungs bullshit scam marketing term to make consumers think that it is same as OLED, because Q looks a lot like O. I have seen many times that people buy QLED and then think it is OLED.

QLED is basically just like LCD (aka LED aka LCD led, they are all just LCD with different backlights and ones with LEDs are sometimes called LED tvs)

While OLED is all different tech + much better imo, for black levels and quality.

I still have Sony 48" fullHD but I'm waiting for 48" Sony OLED to be released.

Samsung tvs are bad anyway on quality wise, many people have had samsungs broke in my social circles but I know 5 people with Sony tvs from the same era as mine (around 5-8y old) and all work. Even my 1996 sony crt still works.
 
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