Investor9872
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That's the devkit's specs, not retail PS5.
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That's the devkit's specs, not retail PS5.
3liteDragon
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He does say, “latest proposed” specs, so maybe because they’re still making minor tweaks to the GPU daily trying to see how close they can get the retail TF to the devkit TF and this is what they’ve came up with so far, doesn’t mean it’s final. And as for the release date and price, again, this guy apparently isn’t a dev, he’s ALLEGEDLY within SIE, maybe this is the current release date and price they’re going for as of now, anything can change.
I’ll post it here when I find it.
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PocoJoe
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Yeah because he is a liar and bad troll.
Trolls can just copy what others say, 12tflops and rdna2 have been "public" for months as tech sawwy speculation.
Unbelievable that some people still defend him, as stupid as defending that Santa Claus is real(or god(s)) so it is what it is
David Ricardo
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$799 with Official Playstation 5 fire extinguisher pack in
Zero707
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the last known revision was in January
This is Oberon not for Ariel i think he/she made a mistake
3liteDragon
Member
Btw, this is the name of that Activision developer that I was talking about that mentioned a 14TF PS5 devkit and adjustable ergonomic grips for the PS5 controller.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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PS5 Latest Proposed Core Specification - 11/03/2020 (base model, not PS5 Pro) - Pastebin.com
Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.pastebin.com
The YT channel MarlonGamingNation (direct link to channel), posted this pastebin link on the chat that was sent to him from someone who he says is a legitimate inside source within SIE iirc. This Marlon guy though does have connections within Sony, he was also actually in one of the documentaries they made for (I THINK) God of War. Also, that Ubisoft or Activision developer that mentioned a 14TF PS5 devkit in existence, watches his stream daily and out of nowhere on one of his streams, mentioned an ergonomic adjustable grip for the PS5 controller in the comments. And in one his streams from late February, his SIE source told him that the PlayStation store for PS5 will have a completely separate UI and will be called GAMERS’ MARKET with features like trading/buying games with credits or something. Idk exactly what he said, but here’s the link to THAT PART of the stream. Even though he says his source is legit, I always took whatever he said with a HUGE grain of salt, until about two days ago on Wednesday, March 11th. His source told him during that day’s stream, that the Ellie edition for TLOU2 will be restocked and go on sale again on March 13th on the PlayStation Direct store. And today...
This is why I’m starting to think his source actually has a chance of being legit, but again this is all just pure speculation. That pastebin link says they’ve unlocked 15.05TF by clocking 56 CU’s all the way up to a whopping 2.1 GHz on the devkit (Those are devkit specs because there’s no way in hell we’re getting 32GB of RAM on the retail version) but iirc, Marlon said they were looking to settle at somewhere around 11TF in one of his recent streams, which is the current number that’s been floating around recently. Now, I’m not asking you guys to 100% believe whatever this dude says, but at least when it comes to rumours, I think we should treat all rumours equally instead of quickly moving to dismiss them. They all have an equal chance of being true or false just because of the fact that Sony has barely mentioned ANYTHING regarding the PS5 up until now. Just my humble opinion, what do you guys think about this?
So they're going to go from 56CUs @ 2.1GHz, to....1535MHz? Or wait, just turn off 8-12CUs and clock the other 48 to around 1800MHz?
Just on a whim, for no reason, to get 11 when both scenarios are unbelievably inefficient use of hardware resources? C'mon
No offense to the guy or his source but they didn't think the logistics of this through at all.
Yeah I remember them mentioning this a few days ago and had a misinterpretation but corrected it a little bit later. Appreciate the links providing some clarification, very helpful/useful stuff.
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It would be good if someone took screenshot of all their specs before and after they come out
01011001
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exactly, there were basically 2 possible outcomes with Microsoft, either 2x the performance in raw numbers, or 2x the performance in real world FPS tests, and he took that 50/50 chance and hit the right one... not really a huge feat.
also speculation about RDNA2 was also very much happening with not only the github leak but also Microsoft touting "Next Generation RDNA", people just stayed reserved about it because it seemed possible to be a hybrid (which it might well still be, console APUs are not following traditional PC roadmaps)
kareemna
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kareemna external storage is something nobody knows about, it’s a really interesting area. Its possible they could allow external drives that act as a secondary drive for storage but still require you to move files to the primary for gameplay? In that case you could have any speed or Male and it would be fine.
But to PLAY off an external? They would likely go down the official add on route and that is always expensive.
It’s a really good question, and one I would love to know.
The thing is, if we check the test DF did benchmarking the extended storage load times on PS4, they are mostly faster. I think they mention something along the lines since the external isnt being utilized by the OS so the IO is not actually being hampered by anything. We do know speeds are throttled on consoles for compatibility and stability among other things.
FERN
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Btw, this is the name of that Activision developer that I was talking about that mentioned a 14TF PS5 devkit and adjustable ergonomic grips for the PS5 controller.
Did they go into any details on the adjustable grips?
saintjules
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Btw, this is the name of that Activision developer that I was talking about that mentioned a 14TF PS5 devkit and adjustable ergonomic grips for the PS5 controller.
Ah I 've seen that name before:
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
The trouble is that the drive has to match what’s internal in terms of random read and write speed, otherwise you performance will be hampered, and neither company will allow that.
You can’t compare sticking an SSD into a last gen machine, it wasn’t built around an SSD foundation.
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3liteDragon
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No, she just mentioned it in the comments as Marlon was asking her about the controller specs.
kareemna
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Then the only solution would be a proprietary slot and enclosure, for the NVME SSD drive (assuming Sony goes with that to).
StreetsofBeige
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Thanks for a recap chart.
Osiris said many times he's sticking to 12.4 or 12.6 tf (I forget what it was).
Zero707
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Wait according to this thread Sony will always have the same TF number for devkit and retail console.......... Ding Ding Ding
New TF number enter the Arena, welcome 15
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Sosokrates
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Again the same mantra?
37 times talking about the same shit.... after checking all your posts.
Who doesn't want a true generational leap?
It seems a pretty worthwhile thing to keep talking about
Rusco Da Vino
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StreetsofBeige
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And even better, the decked out dev kit is called "the base model, not PS5 Pro" and launch on Nov 20th for $499 with a first party pack in game.
What a deal.
Why pay $499 for a gimped retail version, when Sony is willing to sell actual dev kits by the millions?
DaGwaphics
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How high do you think it will get before the reveal? If it's 18TF we'd have a deficit similar to this gen.
01011001
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"9.2TF are from 2017" well that's a bunch of bollocks isn't it... why would AMD still have tests with a 9.2TF chip well into 2019 if that dev kit was from 2017 and replaced with one with higher performance?
"Sony doesn't need you anymore, BUT WE LOVE YOU! You're our little 9.2TF angel!" -AMD, 2017 probably
that honestly makes her info seem more fishy than it already does.
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Rusco Da Vino
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Disco_
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Where would the hbm be located? Right in the apu. So whatever your heat savings are, would be equalled out by it being right on top of the GPU/cpu.
Hbm2 isn't nearly as expensive as people think. Last we heard it was ~$120 for a 16gb stack.
Perrott
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... by being well informed, I guess (?
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
But what IS a true generational leap? Personally, I think it’s the one with the holodeck.
StreetsofBeige
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I think just about every gamer does except ones who prefer wanting a next gen system at $300-400.
Current Xbox One and PS4 was easily the smallest gain in gaming. Ya, resolutions doubled, and games looked better. More 60 fps games too. Streaming became a thing. But the jump just wasn't there like old gens.
Play some 360 games via Xbox One X Enhanced Mode and some of the games barely look any worse than a current gen made game.
Most of the power gain went straight to resolution.
The good thing about next gen systems is for anyone with X or PS4 Pro who already play most games at 4k or checkerboard 4k, the resolution can't really get much better sapping power, so it should go to the rest of the game. I dont see many devs trying to force in 8k unless it's an indie game.
3liteDragon
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Fun fact, the studio that made this game didn’t wanna be acquired by Microsoft. So we could be seeing them putting future games on both platforms.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Pretty funny how certain people constantly ignore this part. I'm not even saying it says what they think people who reference it think it says, but it is a fact an Oberon revision was tested into December of last year (and apparently now, even in January this year), although I'm still trying to figure if the data pulled from those recent tests is from Ariel iGPU or actually Oberon's, because that's probably the more important part here.
And yeah, I gotta put a question mark on an ex-dev who may or may not still be bound to an NDA clause (depending on when they left the company) using their legal name and modding an easily-found Youtube gaming stream chat. At the very least, they could get Activision in trouble with Sony if they're going to share that type of info without some kind of attempt to conceal their identity.
But that's just my opinion.
I've heard this figure quoted multiple times but something tells me it's only referencing a generic market price. If it were actually so cheap to procure then why isn't the XSX using it over the more expensive GDDR6? And why don't any of the Oberon revisions seem to be using HBM2 either?
The other idea is that maybe it actually is that cheap but the actual production volumes are massively reduced. Samsung and SK Hynix pretty much moved on to HBM2E at least a year or so ago and probably aren't producing regular HBM2 at anywhere near high volumes anymore. And last I remember hearing, their current clientele are satisfied with "paying a premium" on HBM2E memories.
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Zero707
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i think first one to mention OBR December revision (Oberon C0) was AquariusZi back in November
and this is before GitHub Blowout
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3liteDragon
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We have to get something before the end of this month from Sony, even if it’s in the form of a Wired article. My guess, Sony will say something after Microsoft’s online live stream event finishes on March 18th.
FranXico
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The Discord gang has some real commitment, I'll give them that.Still talking about github.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Still talking about github.
Some people like reading the tech spec PDFs of chip parts online. Others like reading Game of Thrones. They're both good but one's definitely more fictional than the other
Sosokrates
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Thats like 5 gens away and some amazing Innovation required in science.
I think a true next gen leap is just a good one, where theres a very noticeable upgrade in several areas
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
My father once slipped from the roof of our house and landed behind my sister and her kids I'd say it was a 2 generations leap.
Too bad our grandparents weren't there that would've been 3 generations leap.
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Bless your heart, it was sarcasm
if there was a real holodeck I would be constantly on there “engaged” 
Agnostic2020
Member
Dude is hard to understand that in bc boost mode sony wants to push the clock for ps4 titles? Ps4pro in BC boost mode is 2.5 tf and native is 4.2 tf.
9.2 tf in BC boost mode and 11 or whatever in native
So ofcourse they keep testing it for BC
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Zero707
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Agnostic2020
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Wtf dude your past 2 pages are non stop posts about github.are we back to 3 months ago again ? God hope not.imagine using Discord.
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01011001
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this could be, but it is weird that we only ever find BC tests isn't it? no full chip tests anywhere... weird...
sonomamashine
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I would say the same about someone who don't believe in GOD, you should stop calling people stupid for believing in GOD, i advise you to keep it for yourself.
Gudji
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Some people like reading the tech spec PDFs of chip parts online. Others like reading Game of Thrones. They're both good but one's definitely more fictional than the other
Agnostic2020
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No they keep the native chip test hidden better with fewer access. So it hasn't been found as they know komachi and gang has always been data mining .
01011001
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why then post all the data on basically every other chip they make, including the data on that chip BUT only the part for BC tests?
come on, that would be a tiny bit weird wouldn't it?
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
From my sources it will use wooden gears and steam and be about 200 horsepower.
Zero707
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