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[pramod]

If there is just one frickin good thing I wish can come out of this whole mess after it's over, is that NO ONE should trust ANYTHING that China says EVER AGAIN.

The next time we hear about some "mysterious virus" appearing in China, just immediately shut all borders and travel with China. Seems like it's the only rational thing to do from this point on, unless we just want these things to keep happening over and over again?

 

[crumbs]

In addition: Why was anyone trusting what they said before CV?

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

I was about to order a replacement cord for my HyperX Alpha Clouds and saw “made in China” and thought twice

sure, cord probably shipped out of China a year ago, I’m probably paranoid.

major, my dad dropped off a box of pizza an hour ago and I thought “how many people touched this box?”

head games

 

[EverydayBeast]

Without China the world wouldn't have a lot of things

 

[pramod]

Without China the world wouldn't have a lot of things

1+ million dead but hey we got a lot of cheap junk and iPhones?

 

[TUROK]

I don't think people trust China as much as people have to put up with them cause they're a superpower.

More or less how many other countries see the U.S.

 

[HellforLeather]

1+ million dead but hey we got a lot of cheap junk and iPhones?

This is basically the attitude. Hopefully this wakes up some of these companies and countries out there, but time will tell. This is my concern for the post-COVID-19 future: what kind of moves the world will make against China after all is said and done and how will China respond?

 

[brap]

Never trusted those scummy fucks.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

I was about to order a replacement cord for my HyperX Alpha Clouds and saw “made in China” and thought twice

sure, cord probably shipped out of China a year ago, I’m probably paranoid.

major, my dad dropped off a box of pizza an hour ago and I thought “how many people touched this box?”

head games

Everything is made in China. Hell whatever you are using right now to post was made there.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Everything is made in China. Hell whatever you are using right now to post was made there.

i know

my question was/is how recently

 

[Birdo]

I have a feeling everything won't be made in China after this.

We had all of our eggs in one basket, and it turned out to be a bad idea.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

i know

my question was/is how recently

Eat the pizza.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Eat the pizza.

You want me to die

 

[Halo is Back]

This is what I have been saying for a while. China is starting to look like a less strict North Korea. I hope the world governments will start to push back against China and start to realize they just can't import everything from them anymore because it's not a good idea.

 

[triplestation]

time

 

[Nester99]

What did you trust exactly ?

What an odd thread

 

[TTOOLL]

How could we ever trust any government? Especially a communist one?

 

[Azelover]

We have to stop pretending that it's our incumbency to make these decisions.

Who here came up with the idea of moving all manufacturing to China in the first place?

I didn't. And these corporations are gonna find another slave resource outside of China, that is probably gonna be just as trust worthy as China was.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

You want me to die

Are you a 60 year old man

 

[AlteredForms]

We've always had suspicions about the Chinese, but this seems to be a case of incompetence instead of sabotage.

The people who should be cautious about are those who spend their time making cheese and complaining about everything.

 

[Trogdor1123]

I think one of the fundamental changes that comes out of this will be a change in manufacturing. It doesn't make sense to have so much localized there anymore.

There will be other changes with the structure of work as well.

 

[cryptoadam]

Good luck.

CNN and other bootlickers are doing their best to turn China into the hero while making Trump the villian.

In a year from now the narrative will be that Trump caused the whole thing and the virus originated in the US and China was a the victim and were the only ones who acted appropriately.

Not only did China lie about Human to Human transmission until Jan 20th, they fudged their numbers and covered up the measures they were taking so no one really knew how bad this was.

On Feb 12th they dumped 14K cases in one day. That means for weeks previous they were under reporting their case numbers. And after the dump they all of a sudden started showing a drop in cases. Then all of a sudden after the dump their cases start dropping (most likely BS).

THANKS CHINA.

 

[ipukespiders]

 

[DESTROYA]

I think companies will start pulling there manufacturing done in CHINA. They were untrustworthy before this and how they handled this only reinforces it.

 

[Elektro Demon]

Well, I don't trust the Chinese nor the American government. I don't trust any government.
Chinese are accusing USA of planting the virus in China as a retaliation for the trade war. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

China just has to go back to making products the West cosumes as long as China consumes the media the West makes and it's a slap on the wrist.

 

[newtypepilot]

lol let's not pretend the US government is some sort of saint. You've way bigger problems in DC.

 

[Stiflers Mom]

If next time we don't close the european borders immediately, they can go fuck themselves with their lockdowns.

 

[GymWolf]

This is basically the attitude. Hopefully this wakes up some of these companies and countries out there, but time will tell. This is my concern for the post-COVID-19 future: what kind of moves the world will make against China after all is said and done and how will China respond?

lol not gonna happen (unfortunately)
there is a reason why all company make their shit there, not even a global pandemic is gonna change that.

 

[Pallas]

Without China the world wouldn't have a lot of things

Like the Coronavirus?

 

[Riven326]

I was about to order a replacement cord for my HyperX Alpha Clouds and saw “made in China” and thought twice

sure, cord probably shipped out of China a year ago, I’m probably paranoid.

major, my dad dropped off a box of pizza an hour ago and I thought “how many people touched this box?”

head games

I have a box currently sitting in the closet waiting to be opened. I wanted to wait several days just to be safe. The virus cannot live on surfaces for more than three days. That's the consensus anyway.

 

[Papa]

We have to stop pretending that it's our incumbency to make these decisions.

Who here came up with the idea of moving all manufacturing to China in the first place?

I didn't. And these corporations are gonna find another slave resource outside of China, that is probably gonna be just as trust worthy as China was.

That’s fine if there are 10 resources competing with each other instead of 1 competing with us

 

[Grinchy]

Without China the world wouldn't have a lot of things

We'd still have them, but they would cost more since they weren't being made with slave labor.

 

[pennythoughts]

It sucks that everything that brings me some material joy is made over there.

Electronics, sports equipment, instruments, etc. Every economist that would argue for "efficiency" over their own people's interest, over the commonwealth and social harmony can eat shit.

 

[belmarduk]

The Chinese government has been untrustworthy since its inception (by which I mean Mao.) In the criminal justice system, The CCPs offenses against the Uighur people are considered especially heinous.

 

[Mistake]

Any country promoting moral standards that does business with a growing communist regime is a hypocrite. How can you not expect that to bite you in the ass. It should straight up be illegal

 

[Urprobablyright]

Well, the ugly face of blind kneejerk generalist racism rears its head~

Don't you guys ever get tired of screaming hollering arm waving hysterical overreactions? Terraflops and now coronavirus? Isn't there more to life than bouncing from one topical flashpoint to the next?

Do you think China is the only country that would at first attempt to downplay infections? In the world there are more shifty countries than ostensibly "principled" ones.

1bn Chinese, it was just most likely to start there. I'm surprised we don't get novel viruses and superbugs pumping out of India on a yearly basis like a conveyor belt~

Of course, the nature of the Chinese government means that officials in tertiary cities are tacitly encouraged to keep to themselves and not rock boats, and that can be directly blamed for early inaction, but after that initial period nothing could be done.

There's more to say, but in general i just think you should tone down your overreaction and stop acting like a hacky YouTube political commentator.

Anyway, I don't think you should trust anything Trump says after this fiasco... The fiasco of his presidency... At least count i can find he has made 15,413 false or misleading statements in about 1000 days~

 

[West Texas CEO]

Yeah, the world has never trusted China

 

[Chairman Tickles]

Because Chinese engage in social media more than anyone else, and travel more than anyone else, if you can read (or google translate) mandarin they talk about anything and everything and it is out in the open on platforms accessible to every other person on earth. They especially focus on failings of their local government and dobbing in corrupt officials. Thus it is plain for all to see if something does not match a major official meta-narrative. You can't contain information in a globalized, heavily interconnected country of 1.44 billion.

Americans in particular are brainwashed to a degree that actually affords them the opinion that China is north Korea. It's quite a contrast between reality and perception for anybody that has directly engaged with china and the chinese in any way..

China's anti-viral actions were out in the open and decisive. You can trust their pandemic response. More so than the failed response of your own governments. Maybe China could have taken decisive action to curb the virus 1-2 weeks earlier, in tandem with informing the WHO just a week after the virus was discovered. But your own regimes had months to confront a known quantity and had an example to work from...yet they continue to fail to act decisively.

 

[pr0cs]

I'd like to believe you OP but people are sheep. If it means that they have to skip the next iPhone or ubiquitous gadget, pay more for some frivolity they won't do it.
China has conditioned us to consume, it's in our DNA now, they know it and only pretend to care now

 

[cryptoadam]

Timeline: The early days of China's coronavirus outbreak and cover-up

Serious measures were delayed for about 3 weeks.

www.axios.com

China robbed the world of valuable time to confront the virus by lying and trying to cover it up. Arresting doctors trying to tell the world about it and denying human to human transmission up until Jan 20th.

Some nice tid bits

Dec. 10: Wei Guixian, one of the earliest known coronavirus patients, starts feeling ill.

Jan. 1: Wuhan Public Security Bureau brings in for questioning eight doctors who had posted information about the illness on WeChat.

• An official at the Hubei Provincial Health Commission orders labs, which had already determined that the novel virus was similar to SARS, to stop testing samples and to destroy existing samples.

Jan. 2: Chinese researchers map the new coronavirus' complete genetic information. This information is not made public until Jan. 9.

Jan. 14: WHO announces Chinese authorities have seen "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus."

Jan. 15: The patient who becomes the first confirmed U.S. case leaves Wuhan and arrives in the U.S., carrying the coronavirus.

Jan. 18:

• The Wuhan Health Commission announces four new cases.
• Annual Wuhan Lunar New Year banquet. Tens of thousands of people gathered for a potluck.

Jan. 20:

• The first case announced in South Korea.
• Zhong Nanshan, a top Chinese doctor who is helping to coordinate the coronavirus response, announces the virus can be passed between people.

Jan. 23: Wuhan and three other cities are put on lockdown. Right around this time, approximately 5 million people leave the city without being screened for the illness.

Jan. 24–30: China celebrates the Lunar New Year holiday. Hundreds of millions of people are in transit around the country as they visit relatives.

 

[Punished Miku]

I think companies will start pulling there manufacturing done in CHINA. They were untrustworthy before this and how they handled this only reinforces it.

Maybe. After months of economic losses, they'll probably rush back to the cheapest way to make money quick.

 

[Papa]

Without China the world wouldn't have a lot of things

Without African slaves, there wouldn’t have been much cotton either. What’s your point?

 

[Papa]

Well, the ugly face of blind kneejerk generalist racism rears its head~

Don't you guys ever get tired of screaming hollering arm waving hysterical overreactions? Terraflops and now coronavirus? Isn't there more to life than bouncing from one topical flashpoint to the next?

Do you think China is the only country that would at first attempt to downplay infections? In the world there are more shifty countries than ostensibly "principled" ones.

1bn Chinese, it was just most likely to start there. I'm surprised we don't get novel viruses and superbugs pumping out of India on a yearly basis like a conveyor belt~

Of course, the nature of the Chinese government means that officials in tertiary cities are tacitly encouraged to keep to themselves and not rock boats, and that can be directly blamed for early inaction, but after that initial period nothing could be done.

There's more to say, but in general i just think you should tone down your overreaction and stop acting like a hacky YouTube political commentator.

Anyway, I don't think you should trust anything Trump says after this fiasco... The fiasco of his presidency... At least count i can find he has made 15,413 false or misleading statements in about 1000 days~

NOTHING TO SEE HERE

Spoiler

EXCEPT FOR ORANGE MAN

 

[MichaelRR1989]

China has NEVER deserved any trust. Not before, not now, not when this is over, not ever.

 

[ExpandKong]

Well, I don't trust the Chinese nor the American government. I don't trust any government.
Chinese are accusing USA of planting the virus in China as a retaliation for the trade war. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Bro what is in the middle of “someone ate some bad bat” and “American bioweapon deployed by Trump?”

 

[Elektro Demon]

Bro what is in the middle of “someone ate some bad bat” and “American bioweapon deployed by Trump?”

Americans planted the virus in the bat and one of the Chinese ate it.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

They can't.

It's gonna be a new economy when we all get over this, one that doesn't have China at the center. Their longstanding advantage of "cheap labor" no longer matters. Most things are built by machines now. We're on the cusp of the 3D printing revolution. So the next center of manufacturing will likely be in the countries that can obtain and or produce enough energy to power those machines cheaply.

Cheap energy is the new cheap chinese labor.

 

[Papa]

Well, I don't trust the Chinese nor the American government. I don't trust any government.
Chinese are accusing USA of planting the virus in China as a retaliation for the trade war. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

 

[ExpandKong]

Well, the ugly face of blind kneejerk generalist racism rears its head~

Don't you guys ever get tired of screaming hollering arm waving hysterical overreactions? Terraflops and now coronavirus? Isn't there more to life than bouncing from one topical flashpoint to the next?

Do you think China is the only country that would at first attempt to downplay infections? In the world there are more shifty countries than ostensibly "principled" ones.

1bn Chinese, it was just most likely to start there. I'm surprised we don't get novel viruses and superbugs pumping out of India on a yearly basis like a conveyor belt~

Of course, the nature of the Chinese government means that officials in tertiary cities are tacitly encouraged to keep to themselves and not rock boats, and that can be directly blamed for early inaction, but after that initial period nothing could be done.

There's more to say, but in general i just think you should tone down your overreaction and stop acting like a hacky YouTube political commentator.

Anyway, I don't think you should trust anything Trump says after this fiasco... The fiasco of his presidency... At least count i can find he has made 15,413 false or misleading statements in about 1000 days~

Did Xi Jinping at least give you some cheaply-made kneepads to wear while you’re down there?