DynamiteCop!
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sircaw
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Sweet Jesus, open up the thread for some good vibes from people about a new controller reveal and what do i see,
DynamiteCop moaning like a 100 year old hooker.
Why do you have to keep trying to spoil everything Sony is trying to do.
Xbox had a segment about games last night, can't you just go and enjoy that.
I am all for a bit of banter and fun but your 24/7 trying to throw shade on anything ps5.
DynamiteCop moaning like a 100 year old hooker.
Why do you have to keep trying to spoil everything Sony is trying to do.
Xbox had a segment about games last night, can't you just go and enjoy that.
I am all for a bit of banter and fun but your 24/7 trying to throw shade on anything ps5.
Guardian's Light
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Am I the only one in the world who found it horrible?
mekes
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Almost 4 million people are “trying to take the wind out of Xbox’s sails” so of course
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Birdo
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DynamiteCop!
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It's simple, don't engage me, don't engage things you don't like to read. I don't have conversations with myself, I don't drive conversation solely, your engagement does. Don't like something I'm saying? It's as simple as resisting the urge to respond. You hold just as much responsibility as me, and guess what it's healthy to have debates. Echo chambers are good for no one, and they don't fuel productive advancement of anything.
I don't have to like what you do, you don't have to like what I do. We don't have to share views, but here's the kicker and you're not going to like it; my views are just as valid as yours. Gaf is no longer an echo chamber, be happy about that, would you rather this place reverted to Era level indoctrination of forced thinking?
I really doubt that.
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sircaw
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I just don't understand why you are so butt hurt over anything Sony positive.
As for "fuel productive advancement" your not doing that, your doing the opposite.
Echo chamber you say, its seems like your in one, a never-ending spiral of denial.
I bid you good day but you really need to adjust your pettiness, its not good for your mental health.
DynamiteCop!
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Nobody is butthurt, this is all so petty and it's all fueled by console warring veiled as some objective appreciation of Sony. The intention isn't isolated appreciation, it's broadcasted superiority, and mind you from a terrible metric.
Like I said this is like bragging about Twitch viewers, it's not boots on the ground, it's not money spent, it's flaunting trying to stir up shit. This kind of stuff possesses no value so I pay no value to it.
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Kerotan
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Or fans who want to reap the rewards of having their console of choice being the dominant market leader next gen. Very hard for MS to buy timed or permanent exclusive deals when they're getting trounced by PlayStation.
Agnostic2020
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BlackTron
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Nah Bruh, unless...
Ah man, not this again. Very funny, but I feel like this is willfully ignoring something painfully obvious. This argument seems to come from the notion that you want your thumbs on both sides to be in the same place. This totally ignores that in most games, you are primarily using the stick on the left and the face buttons on the right. In other words, PS gamers, for most titles, are using the controller in an asymmetrical manner. The same games played on an XB controller leave your thumbs symmetrical. The above pic should be changed to "PS Gamers Hands".
If you really feel this way, why don't you put the face buttons on the bottom instead of the top? So your right thumb can be lined up with your left thumb?
Oh that's right, it's because the bottom is a terrible place for your main input method.
This fatal flaw makes the PS controller a lot better than the XB controller for d-pad heavy games. But I'm not buying a new game system for d-pad heavy games.
EDIT: Couldn't help it. Here's a pic of an XB and PS controller actually being held, don't you think your labels are transposed? PS Gamers hands should be the contorted joke in the meme, not XB. Look if you prefer the PS controller that's great and all, but don't joke that XB gamers have the warped hands. Give me a break.
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yeah, for fighting games it's actually good, but for everything else? not so much.
And well, for fighting games you should use a fighting stick anyways, so I don't get it why they still use this design.
BlackTron
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It has to do with branding/trade dress. It differentiates each contender in the game. One look at it, and you know it's a PS controller (for better or worse).
I was also pissed at Nintendo for putting the face buttons on the bottom on the U pro controller. SO close to being the perfect controller. I thought Switch would be god of all gamepads fixing that, but it lacks in the dpad department. Come on already.
DynamiteCop!
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So it doesn't sell on the merits of valid reason but rather blind brand loyalty? Weird flex.
hunthunt
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I think it’s more important what the comments about the controller are.
And they are not positive.
even on reddit people are complaining and getting a lot of upvotes. It’s even on top of reddit right now:
Great to know that the PS5 will retain the feature of fast-forwarding or rewinding the movie you're watching whenever you set down the controller.
It’s currently the #1 Post on the frontpage:
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But hey, at least it got a lot of internet points. Nice.
Its so weird see the two biggest enthusiasts videogames forums with thousands of people loving the DualSense and having an overwhelming good response and then watch Reddit with some FUD.
Suspicious uh
Birdo
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Your loyalty is exceptional. I applaud you.
Silent Viper
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Its dual sex
AeonGaidenRaiden
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Successful Brand loyalty. Even in their shittiest time (PS3), they managed to turn it around after 2 years and catch up to the then more popular 360. Since PS1, PLAYSTATION brand is known worldwide for gaming and there hasnt been a single generation so far with lackluster offerings. Unlike xbox1 which failed day one and continued to become the biggest paper weight because all it got going for it was pumping out 6 Forza games. Halo and GeoW were largely disliked by fans. For 5 years they had no clue what to do.
It would be logical to anyone to "blindly" go for PS5 considering PS4 was printing quality games non stop. Series X can be 5 times more powerful and id still have to ask myself ok what games am i buying this for? Oh Halo again...even tho the last 2 were shit. 25th Forza...gears of War 17....yeah no thanks.
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DynamiteCop!
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We're a fly on the wall compared to the rest of the internet.
hunthunt
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Of course, and watching twitter, instagram, era and neogaf responses gives you a very good picture of the overal reception of fans.
And its fantastic.
Reddit? give me a break.
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B_Boss
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It’s really science to a large degree with the physical design of the controller. If you place the controller down at a (touchpad facing upward) but tilt it lightly forward (and towards the surface you’re laying it on) then yes, it absolutely will cause the triggers to be pushed. Sometimes I’ll rest my controller on my leg and I know 90% of the time it’ll cause at least one of the triggers to be pressed. If you set it straight down and not at an angle and resting on a hard or flat surface, it will not cause the triggers to be pushed at all
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DynamiteCop!
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Reddit has like 400 million monthly active users.
hunthunt
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DynamiteCop!
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So split they're all basically even leveled platforms in terms of people, and what makes these people more normal than people on reddit exactly?
CJY
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Here's the thing though... Somebody posted a research topic about how humans using/placing their thumbs asymmetrically produces better and more effective/creative results. Your picture is proof that when using the "primary" input methods on a controller, Sony is actually the asymmetric one.Ah man, not this again. Very funny, but I feel like this is willfully ignoring something painfully obvious. This argument seems to come from the notion that you want your thumbs on both sides to be in the same place. This totally ignores that in most games, you are primarily using the stick on the left and the face buttons on the right. In other words, PS gamers, for most titles, are using the controller in an asymmetrical manner. The same games played on an XB controller leave your thumbs symmetrical. The above pic should be changed to "PS Gamers Hands".
If you really feel this way, why don't you put the face buttons on the bottom instead of the top? So your right thumb can be lined up with your left thumb?
Oh that's right, it's because the bottom is a terrible place for your main input method.
This fatal flaw makes the PS controller a lot better than the XB controller for d-pad heavy games. But I'm not buying a new game system for d-pad heavy games.
EDIT: Couldn't help it. Here's a pic of an XB and PS controller actually being held, don't you think your labels are transposed? PS Gamers hands should be the contorted joke in the meme, not XB. Look if you prefer the PS controller that's great and all, but don't joke that XB gamers have the warped hands. Give me a break.
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Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
This but unironically.
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hunthunt
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Literally in front page and without any search
Comparing Reddit with Twitter or Instagram
DynamiteCop!
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You don't think people post like this on Twitter and Instagram lol?Literally in front page and without any search
Comparing Reddit with Twitter or Instagram
Northeastmonk
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I just hope all this social media attention gets Sony to go with the different colors right from the start. It took a while, but the color choices for the Slim PS2 were awesome and so was the N64’s choice of colors.
BlackTron
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I have a few reactions for this. First, I'd like to see this "research", a cursory search here turned up nothing. Second, even if it's true that using your thumbs asymmetrically is more conducive to creativity, you have an uphill battle to prove simply placing the thumb differently makes much of a difference, beyond comfort. I have a strong feeling that, without seeing this study, what you are saying is true, in the way that the two thumbs are doing different jobs:
One thumb is moving a 3D control stick, the other is hitting patterns of buttons.
One hand is moving a steering wheel, the other is shifting a manual transmission.
The fingers of one hand are forming shapes of chords, the other is creating sound with a strumming pattern.
I can see there being merit to this claim, but I am highly skeptical that this means anything for the placement of the stick on the PS controller. More likely, nearly all controllers fall into this equally by making you USE your thumbs asymmetrically, not just placing them that way.
CJY
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Yeah, sounds about right. I didn't bookmark the post I came across and I really just skimmed the content so I really can't recall anything in it to make a search.
You make some interesting points though.
For me, I believe we as humans are equally capable of using controllers with the left stick in either position and the comfort level between both is negligible. With me specifically, I use Switch Pro Controller and DS4, going back and forth daily and I really can't say unequivocally one is better than the other. It doesn't even depend on the type of game for me, I literally think it's the same.
Shmunter
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BlackTron
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I guess we are all different. For me, having the stick on the bottom of the PS controller has been a significant issue since PS2. In fact, most of my PS gaming is old games that used the d-pad anyway like SotN or PS1 fighting games lol...
I tried to get over it buying a PS4, but I ended up running out of enthusiasm and giving it away. I'm no XB fanboy, I just use what I like. I ended up doing most of my modern "console gaming" on PC using 360 controllers, at least until Switch came around.
I guess it just doesn't bother most people. I assume not, because PS is so damn popular. At the same time, it would be nice is PS fans wouldn't joke about XB gamers having messed up hands. Think about it critically for a second -_-
CJY
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Yeah, I see where you're coming from about the initial image you responded to with the thumbs. It's not very accurate. Just a bit of fun I suppose, and you're right... to each their own.
Moonjt9
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I get this argument. However, for dpad games it is so wildly uncomfortable to play in the Xbox, switch pro position whereas the analog stick in that position is still comfortable and feels good to play. This is why the ps layout is superior.Ah man, not this again. Very funny, but I feel like this is willfully ignoring something painfully obvious. This argument seems to come from the notion that you want your thumbs on both sides to be in the same place. This totally ignores that in most games, you are primarily using the stick on the left and the face buttons on the right. In other words, PS gamers, for most titles, are using the controller in an asymmetrical manner. The same games played on an XB controller leave your thumbs symmetrical. The above pic should be changed to "PS Gamers Hands".
If you really feel this way, why don't you put the face buttons on the bottom instead of the top? So your right thumb can be lined up with your left thumb?
Oh that's right, it's because the bottom is a terrible place for your main input method.
This fatal flaw makes the PS controller a lot better than the XB controller for d-pad heavy games. But I'm not buying a new game system for d-pad heavy games.
EDIT: Couldn't help it. Here's a pic of an XB and PS controller actually being held, don't you think your labels are transposed? PS Gamers hands should be the contorted joke in the meme, not XB. Look if you prefer the PS controller that's great and all, but don't joke that XB gamers have the warped hands. Give me a break.
lepermessiah
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That's a fine-looking controller, sexy af, this thing is going to sell like hotcakes.
cireza
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As I said in another topic, people will just by the next PS whatever the console is, even if it less powerful etc... As long as it has the correct price, the console's success is a given. Sony don't even have to try.
BlackTron
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I did note in my post, that PS controllers are better for d-pad heavy games. However, I don't go into buying an advanced brand new $500 game system packed with advanced features, thinking about the d-pad heavy games. We all know, most modern games especially PS exclusives, are 3D games where you're using a stick for movement and face buttons for actions...
I would prefer that the main official controller use the best layout for modern games/exclusives, especially because they're most likely to use all the other new features of the gamepad. Easier to find a decent third party controller for a d-pad game, than a decent reverse analog controller that has all the features you need for an AAA title/online game.
Again, I went through this on PS3. I would use a third party controller to play TLOU until the game demanded some gimmick to use something like the flashlight and I was forced to switch back. I'm getting too old to worry about all that stuff, I will just say fuck it and fire up Doom on PC lol.
Die Namek Ability
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Back to his original post tho, he was speaking about consoles and how the likes show interest in the PS5. If likes didn't matter why would companies use these methods of gauging interest. Spotify and Netflix do this all the time.
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Deleted member 775630
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I agree. This definitely shows a lot of interest in the console, but he was talking about "winning". And I was merely trying to say that "winning" isn't only defined by selling consoles, and that it's just a part of it.
TheTurboFD
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I like the controller, looks like it will be comfortable. I do hate the white though.
MasterCornholio
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Selling a ton of consoles helps other numbers as well. Like subscriptions, software sales, accessory sales and other figures. In the end it all contributes to the revenue.
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Deleted member 775630
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Yeah definitely true. Which is why imo, Sony should also focus more on the PC market. Just see the consoles you develop as a main system if you want to have no hassle go to device to play games. But since people are expecting to be able to play games more and more on every device and switch without a hassle, they should think about services for PC. Not just releasing their games on there, but transforming PS Now into a Game Pass Ultimate like service for PC.
For example, I think it would be great if I could play a game on my PS5, get on a train and keep playing it on my phone, and arrive at a friends house where I can play further on the PC. Seamless transition between these devices.
Burrito Bandito
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larger install base, so idk why this would be a surprise?
ps2 also had a much larger install base advantage over og xbox than ps4 has over xb1 and look what happened with the 360.
surely you guys dont think this actually means a damn thing when it comes to the performance of these consoles over the next 7 years
ps2 also had a much larger install base advantage over og xbox than ps4 has over xb1 and look what happened with the 360.
surely you guys dont think this actually means a damn thing when it comes to the performance of these consoles over the next 7 years