Kacho
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I'd say very high tbh
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Epic Game Store is positioning itself as a juggernaut isn't it?
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Pejo
Gold Member
What's that old saying about free services? Something like "if you aren't paying for the product, you are the product". I still have no goodwill and faith towards Tim and EGS that they're not mining information and selling it, when the launcher was proven to be scanning your Steam library and friend lists when it released.
Bonfires Down
Member
Their exclusives for this year are weak. If they do manage to get Sony exclusivity that will change things, but I don't expect it.
The #1 thing they need to do asap is to allow all games onto their store.
The #1 thing they need to do asap is to allow all games onto their store.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
What EGS has going for it:
- The revenue sharing can attract people still, it's almost certainly why Ubisoft is using them as their secondary store, why any product is going to EGS first, etc.
- The special Unreal Engine deals they are willing to make if you go exclusive to their store
- They are offering their Fortnite architecture up to devs to use, even if they launch on Steam, but it opens up relationship opportunities and shows they have potential of expanding their services much like Valve does with all the Steam bells and whistles
- The revenue sharing, did I mention that?
What they have going against them:
- The store is fucking garbage right now and is not prepared for a lot of games by Epic's own admission (no actual tools for even uploading / managing games)
- TERRIBLE word of mouth so far, they really fucked up the landing with their exclusive deals, how they were communicated, and aspy Tim Sweeney
- The store is fucking garbage right now, did I mention that?
- The revenue sharing can attract people still, it's almost certainly why Ubisoft is using them as their secondary store, why any product is going to EGS first, etc.
- The special Unreal Engine deals they are willing to make if you go exclusive to their store
- They are offering their Fortnite architecture up to devs to use, even if they launch on Steam, but it opens up relationship opportunities and shows they have potential of expanding their services much like Valve does with all the Steam bells and whistles
- The revenue sharing, did I mention that?
What they have going against them:
- The store is fucking garbage right now and is not prepared for a lot of games by Epic's own admission (no actual tools for even uploading / managing games)
- TERRIBLE word of mouth so far, they really fucked up the landing with their exclusive deals, how they were communicated, and aspy Tim Sweeney
- The store is fucking garbage right now, did I mention that?
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
You seem quite out of touch with the dev community, pc gaming and the overall pc digital distribution market. But sure, long for the day Steam is wiped out because they don't "step up", lol.
Stepping up is paying some studios to not put games on EGS I guess. Eesh. Not gonna happen, thankfully.
So much misinformation in so few bullet points, too.
Ubisoft is there because unlike Steam it's not a real competitor and they see most sales on their own platform, they've essentially gone UPlay exclusive as they planned already and get Epic's sales guarantees on top, smart.
Stepping up is paying some studios to not put games on EGS I guess. Eesh. Not gonna happen, thankfully.
So much misinformation in so few bullet points, too.
Zero games have gone EGS because of it, 100% of timed exclusives have gone there because of the up front payment and sales guarantees which is obviously not gonna be a forever deal. Why assume when the info is all there?
Ubisoft is there because unlike Steam it's not a real competitor and they see most sales on their own platform, they've essentially gone UPlay exclusive as they planned already and get Epic's sales guarantees on top, smart.
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Kacho
Member
Exclusives this year are weak because pickings are slim. Everyone is saving their big guns for next gen and those are the games EGS will make moves on.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
After the Quantum Dream stuff, I was worried this might have been the case, but thankfully Horizon: Zero Dawn is announced for Steam.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Note that in your list of positives, it is all about devs/publishers. And in the negatives, it is all about customers/gamers. What service succeeds by sucking up to content producers and delivering a shit heap to customers?
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
And just a choice few producers, it's still an anti-indie closed platform just like Steam used to be and caved under developer and gamer demand to be more inclusive, first with greenlight and then with the current situation, staying true to the PC as an open platform.
That was initially said as a positive, Epic claimed there'd only be good games and shit, but so many good games aren't on there, and so many duds are, already, never mind when they accumulate a larger catalogue.
No shortage of ace games to buy elsewhere while waiting for the odd timed gem anyway and being on a different storefront but still on the same PC platform doesn't mean they escape competition, lol.
Besides, everything EGS claims to do gog does better but people clearly didn't make that a juggernaut over Steam so, clearly all the people saying such are just ignorant kids dropping hot takes and thinking they're cool for riling people up when people just state the obvious and move on.
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MiguelItUp
Member
They still have so much work to do. I mean, their support and everything involved is embarrassingly poor. Allow me to provide an example.
I preordered the Standard Edition of Predator Hunting Ground in March after playing the trial. A day or two before launch in April they revealed a Deluxe Edition, which I wanted to get. However, there was a bug on EGS that wouldn't allow me to purchase the Deluxe Version, or "upgrade", because I already preordered the Standard Edition. Eventually this was fixed but it wasn't until launch day. So, I bought the Deluxe Edition. Played the game, had my preorder bonus goodies, and was happy.
Eventually I was like, "Well, surely I can refund the Standard Edition and keep the Deluxe, why own two copies on one platform? So, I got it refunded. Problem is doing so completely removed my preorder bonuses, lmao. Which is bizarre cause I swore it was attached to my account and not the copy of the game. So, now I've been going back and forth with support trying to get my preorder bonuses back, and it sounds like it's really not going anywhere. Honestly I think language is an issue with how a lot of these emails respond. It's like they're not even reading my ticket.
This is definitely on Illfonic too, but man, EGS' support could really be a lot better.
I preordered the Standard Edition of Predator Hunting Ground in March after playing the trial. A day or two before launch in April they revealed a Deluxe Edition, which I wanted to get. However, there was a bug on EGS that wouldn't allow me to purchase the Deluxe Version, or "upgrade", because I already preordered the Standard Edition. Eventually this was fixed but it wasn't until launch day. So, I bought the Deluxe Edition. Played the game, had my preorder bonus goodies, and was happy.
Eventually I was like, "Well, surely I can refund the Standard Edition and keep the Deluxe, why own two copies on one platform? So, I got it refunded. Problem is doing so completely removed my preorder bonuses, lmao. Which is bizarre cause I swore it was attached to my account and not the copy of the game. So, now I've been going back and forth with support trying to get my preorder bonuses back, and it sounds like it's really not going anywhere. Honestly I think language is an issue with how a lot of these emails respond. It's like they're not even reading my ticket.
This is definitely on Illfonic too, but man, EGS' support could really be a lot better.
LazyParrot
Member
Why would UE5 games be more likely to end up as EGS exclusives than UE4 games?
They have been "buddy buddy" with Sony this entire generation. They have to be. They make the best selling console around. If Sony has some sort of exclusivity deal with Epic, then why are Horizon and Death Stranding coming to Steam?
How can you say Ubisoft's games are EGS exclusive when they're selling them on their own store?
That list of "clutch exclusives" looks kinda dubious. Do you really think that a truck sim, a Mechwarrior game, remakes of a bunch of boomer games and a remaster of a decade-old GTA clone are gonna be what gives them the edge over Steam?
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
I keep nabbing the free games from EGS, but haven't installed any of them. I refuse to buy anything from them and will keep that up at least until they stop doing exclusivity deals for money.
I'm tempted to break that policy for the Tony Hawk remasters, but I'll probably just pick it up on PS4 instead.
I'm tempted to break that policy for the Tony Hawk remasters, but I'll probably just pick it up on PS4 instead.
molasar
Banned
I preordered the Standard Edition of Predator Hunting Ground in March after playing the trial. A day or two before launch in April they revealed a Deluxe Edition, which I wanted to get. However, there was a bug on EGS that wouldn't allow me to purchase the Deluxe Version, or "upgrade", because I already preordered the Standard Edition. Eventually this was fixed but it wasn't until launch day. So, I bought the Deluxe Edition. Played the game, had my preorder bonus goodies, and was happy.
Eventually I was like, "Well, surely I can refund the Standard Edition and keep the Deluxe, why own two copies on one platform? So, I got it refunded. Problem is doing so completely removed my preorder bonuses, lmao. Which is bizarre cause I swore it was attached to my account and not the copy of the game. So, now I've been going back and forth with support trying to get my preorder bonuses back, and it sounds like it's really not going anywhere. Honestly I think language is an issue with how a lot of these emails respond. It's like they're not even reading my ticket.
Once they removed a pre-purchase version from your account, the game was updated through an authorization process to a launch version. That is why you lost pre-order stuff. You should ask them about changing a version in your EGS account transactions-payment history from 'Predator Hunting Grounds Digital Deluxe Edition' to 'Predator Hunting Grounds Digital Deluxe Edition Pre-Purchase'.
Dontero
Banned
UE games get even lower cut than 12%
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
The cut hasn't changed from UE4 to UE5, though, right?
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Has anyone else noticed that the 'Stats' page on newer Xbox One games dont have any stats to show on the consoles main UI?
I havent seen any other comments on it. Anyone know why?
Kacho
Member
I’m pretty sure it’s because they no longer make it mandatory for devs. It was a somewhat recent change. Not sure why.
MiguelItUp
Member
Exactly! I even pinpointed it in a screenshot I sent them. Circled it and everything. They got back to me before, but I haven't heard from them in awhile. Even after providing more information. It's a really lame situation. Told a buddy of mine at Illfonic about it, but he couldn't really do to much. Said they could attempt to attach those items to my account but there was no guarantee. Nothing's happened so I guess it didn't work.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Thats a shame. It was one of the best aspects of the console for me, sometimes I would of rather have bought the Xbox version of a game over the Ps4 version because of the stat system, now it's gone, theres no point.
I don't have a problem with it. I think it's an ok storefront and they've added wishlists and other things I missed at the start of it. The multitude of free games have been amazing too. I mean, I get why they bought exclusives, how else would they be able to compete with such an established storefront as Steam. That said, I can agree that being "forced" to have multiple launchers installed is annoying.
Solomeena
Banned
How much is Epic and Tencent paying you to astroturf this crap?
Kokoloko85
Member
Ah valve, you gotta get up and do something now. Riding on the PC industry and steam.
Im glad epic is shaking things up
Im glad epic is shaking things up
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Yeah, what?
Paasei
Member
How many features are still missing, or rather, have been added over its lifecycle? There was this picture a while ago that showed what it did and didn't have over other launchers.
It's just that its yet another store. I want DRM free, not a gazillion launchers that already eat half my S/HDD space, before I even get to play a damn game on my PC, rofl.
It's just that its yet another store. I want DRM free, not a gazillion launchers that already eat half my S/HDD space, before I even get to play a damn game on my PC, rofl.
Damigos
Member
I feel that console gamers like epic store more than pc gamers do. I may be mistaken though
Aion002
Member
Eh.... Even with all the free games that they give out.... I never bothered installing or even making an account.
I only use Steam and GOG... I don't see a reason to use anything else, also free games are cool, but if I really want something, I like to pay the devs for their hard work....
I only use Steam and GOG... I don't see a reason to use anything else, also free games are cool, but if I really want something, I like to pay the devs for their hard work....
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
- Unreal Engine since the early days is a "wow" thing
- When they showed UE4, PS4 was the console with the marketing - thou a lot of games used UE3.5 at start
- Ubisoft 2020 is not the same as 2012. No Watch Dogs "really next gen" bullshit. But it's not like they're awesome again
- I think that since late in UE3, the guys made the engine cheap to catch small developers. The problem was that console didn't run it that great, but consoles now are basically PCs, so it's easier for everyone
Not a big surprise here, mate
captainraincoat
Banned
At least they fixed the store showing usd for games when we live in aus with that horrible exchange rate
only took valve 7 years to do that
only took valve 7 years to do that
MisterBrimstone
Member
Some of the free games they gave out are actually good. You are missing out people.
Remember that not every program you install has to be on startup.
Remember that not every program you install has to be on startup.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
i don't care if they are giving out free games. I'll happily go buy them elsewhere on PC or on console instead of play them for free through their client. Fuck Epic they ain't getting a penny from me.
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Woo-Fu
Banned
You can't count on that. Stuff announced on Steam has gone EGS exclusive in the past.
Maybe I've just had bad experiences but I'd take EGS over Upray any day of the week and twice on Sundays. I basically have to reinstall Uplay every time I need it for a new Ubisoft game or it doesn't work. Ubisoft's website still thinks I live on the other side of the planet for some reason too.
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D.Final
Banned
Hard times seeing this for most
Reminder: Nobody would be using it if it had not been for the free games.
I've never considered Epic Games Store a contender once Sweeney started trying to say this his storefront would be the end-all-be-all for PC Gaming by saying they have the lowest store cut when they clearly do not and trying to say that bribing is a better solution to Valve's storefront.
That and purposely fucking with the Linux gaming scene.
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Steam has years on Epic game store, the same for Xbox Live and PSN, PC gaming is up on the rise what do gamers want the Epic Game store to do? Fully guarantee you free games?