It IS a greatly engineered hardware. But so is the XSX. And yet we have people trying to put the XSX in the same category as tablets and last gen consoles.
Spider-man loading vs State of Decay loading.
Considering he only made the tweet because of all the bad PR he generated for his store and company he trashed the platform his store is on. I'm sure that pointed out to him enough my marketing to make this meaningless tweet. Dude should man up live with the bad PR instead of caving with half ass tweet to make better. I hate people try walk back what they meant because of bad PR.
The only next-gen console that has systematically been getting downplayed (8TFLOL memes, weak hardware, etc.) is the PS5.
By claiming that nanite needs to be ditched on the XSX, it implies the XSX is in the same category as the Xbox One, Android Phones and Tablets. They were quite clear that that's the group of hardware that will need to be scaled back. They never said the XSX will need to be scaled back... And now we have this as confirmation;
Yes. And that is very important. It is now highly likely that Epic is working with both MS and Sony. Now, that should not be a surprise considering we already know Hellblade 2 for XSX is using Unreal Engine, and many other Xbox games are made on Unreal Engine. But the talk from Microsoft about supporting old and new generations at the same time, suddenly makes sense. There is no need to hamper the new generation consoles to allow the games to work on the older ones.
Oh really? Let's be honest here. Saying the XSX can't run that demo is not downplaying the XSX? Come on bro...
Practically everybody here has been saying it can, and wondering what would the (probably minor) differences. I was one of the first to say that, and got attacked for it.
Jesus dude you made your point lol move on
There must be threads full of Sony trolls that we are not aware of.
Does the bit about using traditional tools/resources imply that GI and such is only available on next gen consoles and PCs?
Stranger things have happened, but as far as I am concerned, let it be white
The fact that you got attacked for it says it all. It actually implies that I'm right when I said that the XSX is being downplayed. If the XSX was not being downplayed, why would you be attacked for stating that?
I don't feel like going through pages to find back these statements. And yes, I am exaggerating a bit, and even if no one stated that directly, it is completely implied if you start talking about requirements of 'scaling back'. And to be honest, considering the level of knowledge here. I doubt many here would know the difference between scaling back within nanite and reverting back to classical ways of rendering. Just as a hint, the demo was running with dynamic resolution for a reason.
One overzealous fanboy (easy to track down the conversation if you really want), but not a mob. Either way, not worth derailing the thread.
I found the culprit!
Some people seems to believe that the SX version of the demo would look like this:
And that’s just ridiculous. I’ve been advocating about how important the IO in PS5 is but that doesn’t mean that the SX doesn’t have a good one too. There are diminishing returns to what the eye can perceive, specially at high speed. If an asset doesn’t have 6 billion polys but 2 none of you are going to notice that until DF makes a video, pauses the action and do a 800x zoom.
You did this just to set yourself up, just so you can knock yourself down. 4D chess!
That is a reasonable perspective. Direct ports never work well without changing the code to adhere to the hardware. It's a given though. So that this needs to be said at all shows how crazy things have become in here.
They are stuck at home bored and discord is blocked...
Why a "like" to that post would make you that/xbox fan?
Response article. Go Geoff.
Why this a "like" to that is going to make you that?
Tim Sweeney is basically confirming there that UE5 is tailored for the PS5 SSD I/O unit
.We already knew that Nanite and Lumen tech will be fully supported on Xbox Series. Pretty sure that XSX will show its own UE5 tech demo pretty soon too
No one was saying tht. What they were saying is due to PS5's faster and largely better ssd implementation it would more than likely look better on PS5 with better geometry and assets.
Me burning this thread after the June 4th show has no MotorStorm.
I dont get why all this drama, it is fucking tech demo man, not even a game. But you know, some people (this is not going for you B Bladed Thesis !) really prefer make all kind of shit up to keep going with the console warrior BS.Yes lol certain ppl will try to push the angle and say tht ppl excited about this on PS5 were saying it wasnt possible on nextbox
And in fairness the tweets pushing lossy texture compressor BPack as a silver bullet to match the IO complex and 2x raw SSD speed double down on that idea, because even if the XsX can largely match that demo, the use of 8K textures on PS5 is going to be less detailed on XsX (at possibly 4K or less) if they need to use the lossy compression of bpack to make up that IO deficit.Yes lol certain ppl will try to push the angle and say tht ppl excited about this on PS5 were saying it wasnt possible on nextbox
Why don't you just say what you want to say? I've been putting people on ignore. I'm not going to bother to search for things that I already thought were wasting my time. I have better things to do.
If it really was one person and was not prevalent at all, would we really have posts like these...?;
Ugh. I guess I'm forced to look it up. I'm tired of these damn lies all the time...Yes lol certain ppl will try to push the angle and say tht ppl excited about this on PS5 were saying it wasnt possible on nextbox
Yes, unfortunately he has to repeat himself.Has this been posted yet?? It's pretty interesting...
Ugh. I guess I'm forced to look it up. I'm tired of these damn lies all the time...
Here we go. Two I found relatively quickly;
PS5's SSD is "far ahead" of those found in high-end PCs, according to Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney
No one has claimed that the engine wouldn't work on other systems. You are basically just making stuff up. How about you try answering my question? Count how many ppl that have said this demo isn't running on PC or Xbox. I'll still be here once you get your numbers tallied up. What's your...www.neogaf.com
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
That bit at the end where she's flying through the map at ridiculous speeds with not load or texture pop in. SONY SSD BABY!!!!! Yeah that crazy fast travel towards the end whilst the details are retained! this is the power of the PS5's SSD! They also said there was so much triangles/polygons...
Yes I'm not dumb. The first one is sarcasm. But he wouldn't be saying that if people weren't really saying it
it also doesn't work without ssds, and even sata ssds might need to be scaled down, iirc. That is even 2080ti pcs with hdds will have it scaled down. Whether nvmes need scaling depending on capacity remains to be seen(for examples there are estimates even a single statue with the multiple 8k textures was 700+MB, how much of it needs to be streamed at once?).
Has this been posted yet?? It's pretty interesting...
1) 1440p is not the output. It’s 4K, in this case reconstructed but even if not a 1440p game output at 4K. 2) No 4K TV scales 4K input since it’s already 4K regardless of the internal revolution.
Let me clarify something... And I can be wrong, but from what I understood... Either the hardware is good enough and nanite works for practical application, or it's not and then it doesn't. The 'scaling down' everyone is talking about means reverting to the old method of rendering. That's what consoles and PCs with HDD have to do. It's not about lessening details at the same resolution. The dynamic resolution of the PS5 was there because the nanite system adapts the resolution based on the amount of triangles being handled. If the GPU cannot handle the amount of triangles, or the SSD cannot throughput the triangles, the resolution will be scaled down to maintain the same level of detail at a lower resolution to keep the specified framerate. That means that if you run the same demo from the HDD, assuming the SSD is 10x faster, you'd run the same demo on 144p (technically 144p is not 10x less pixels, but you get the point I'm trying to make. I'm too lazy to calculate right now).
All true.
I prefer this "recap":
Yall remember this?:
Well, It turned out it was just '' The Ascent '', that isometric game revealed on Inside Xbox.
I particularly liked what was shown of the game, but I don't know if it was worth the hype they made for the magazine.
