Getting a sense that this might be one of those imaginary friends.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
My friend who is a Nintendo fanboy is very proud that Nintendo games do not drop in price & often shits on AAA games saying how fast their price drops
- Thread starter Clarissa
- Start date
Getting a sense that this might be one of those imaginary friends.
H
hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
Well, you do have the option to buy physical full price and then sell once you're done at a mere £5-10 loss so the game has only cost you £5-10.
grumpyGamer
Member
I cant afford to buy a full price game
.I only buy when they are 20 or 30 euros max
H
hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
I cant afford to buy a full price game
I only buy when they are 20 or 30 euros max
My point is money management - you can't afford to lose £50 permanently, that I get, but if you buy a game and then sell it once you're finished it's only cost £5 or £10 - that's less than £20 or £30 max.
grumpyGamer
Member
I dont like to seel the games, i collect them
Portugeezer
Member
When I look at my older first party Switch games, I could probably sell them and get £30 easily.
When I look at most of my PS4 games, first party or not, I would struggle to make £10.
If you never sell your games, then it's irrelevant.
When I look at most of my PS4 games, first party or not, I would struggle to make £10.
If you never sell your games, then it's irrelevant.
Last edited:
H
hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
That makes it trickier then I guess - option 2 is get a Wii U and pick up 2nd hand games and collect those - they still hold their price a bit but not quite to the same level and there's some fantastic games on that system (as awful as the controller is).
H
hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
I'm seeing £40 on Facebook marketplace for older 1st party Switch games. Even worse, on Gumtree some people are doing shit like this...
https://www.gumtree.com/p/video-games/super-mario-odyssey-nintendo-switch/1372478588 when https://www.dekudeals.com/items/super-mario-odyssey shows it available physically for £42.85 brand new.
grumpyGamer
Member
Yeah i have all the nintendo consoles, and i just buy new a few important games, and than i just buy used or on sale
H
hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
That's the good thing about proper physical games - there's a second hand market. Sadly I can't resell any of my Steam games (and there's some absolute dross I'd love to shift!).
grumpyGamer
Member
I am a physical whore, i hate digital, so i only buy digital if there is no other choice
Clarissa
Banned
So even after some of the pictures/chat logs I posted you think I'm faking this whole thing?
There are a lot of Nintendo fans who are proud that prices of Nintendo games don't drop. They are here. They are at resetera. They are everywhere.
My friend is just another one of them. Just that his love for Nintendo is next level.
Last edited:
D
Deleted member 738976
Unconfirmed Member
Hawking Radiation
Member
OP must be a teenager or in middle school.
I swear the quality of threads in this place nowadays is down the toilet.
I swear the quality of threads in this place nowadays is down the toilet.
CaptainClaw
Member
It's Insecurities plain and simple. Your friend can't just believe Nintendo games are worth full price on their own merit but he also needs to believe that Playstation games aren't quality because they devalue.
Why couldn't someone who likes Nike just like Nike?, why would they need to bring down Adidas too?.
And I find it odd that some how Full price shows the quality of a product, so a Gucci T shirt staying at $300 can't be just as good quality as a $50 T shirt reduced to $30?.
Why couldn't someone who likes Nike just like Nike?, why would they need to bring down Adidas too?.
And I find it odd that some how Full price shows the quality of a product, so a Gucci T shirt staying at $300 can't be just as good quality as a $50 T shirt reduced to $30?.
Last edited:
Because even after selling well, developers get shut down all the time because their game simply didn't make enough money because it was sold for €20 within 2 months. I prefer my favorite developers to stay in business and don't mind their games staying €60.
I'm not going into the console war stuff but yeah, I'm glad Nintendo prices stay up so my favorite company keeps making money, even if their console fails terribly. Extra plus side is that I can sell games again in the rare event that I didnt like it.
Starlight Lotice
Member
Funny story...Adidas and Puma are rivals on the highest order because two brothers didn't get along and split.
I can only imagine in my head a theoretical Adidas vs Puma Shoe Wars.
CaptainClaw
Member
Oh trust me it exist, there's even a (Adidas) Yeezy vs (Nike) Jordan shoe war.
EightBit Man
Member
Imagine being a fanboy in the 90s...missing out on all those great games. lol
alabtrosMyster
Banned
This is perfectly normal, I make sure that the PS4 has a place at the diner table and in all family pictures, it's a member of the family just like us and our kids, we love it so much.
H
hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
Nintendo vs Sega really was Messi vs Ronaldo - two greats at the same time, the likes of which we'll never see again. Us old farts were lucky to see them both in their prime.
CaptainClaw
Member
If Nintendo had sales months later at $30 and if Nintendo (Your fav company) keep making money is important to you and others then why not just buy 2 Other Games to cover the cost...and those who can't afford it at $60 can buy it for $30?
Last edited:
Stefan.North
Member
You have quite incredible imagionary friends. I think both of you need counseling (book only one chair at shrink, your friend isn't needing one)
StormCell
Member
Why should he be even more embarrassed to be a Nintendo fan boy?
StormCell
Member
My favorite purchases this generation have been Horizon: Zero Dawn Complete Edition for like $12 and Skyrim: Legendary whatever for less than $10. So many hundreds of hours of entertainment for so little cost.
No one here has said they are proud. Most have said they appreciate the resale value, and they don't mind paying the retail price, because the games are good in their opinion.
Are you seeing imiginary posts now?
I already buy all the games I'm interested in. Can't buy any more than that and I don't buy doubles.
Also, basic economy and stuff. Buying 2 games at €30 each won't make a developer or publisher the same amount of money a single game at €60. I'd probably have to buy 3 games at €30 each to make Nintendo the same amount of money as I would by buying a single game at €60. Fun fact, physical games at €20 barely make any money for the publisher, no matter how nice it is for the consumer.
CaptainClaw
Member
The resale value argument can be said for PS/Xbox too...If i buy Playstation Game a few months later on sale for $40 and resell it for $30-$20 how is that any different than buying a Nintendo game for $60 and reselling it for $50-$40?
The difference is if I bought a switch game today, I could expect it to resell it 6-12 months later at relatively a high price.
Can I say the same for Madden, or Assassin's Creed, or many of the games on the PS4/XBOX?No one is saying PS4 games can't retain value, but they don't retain value as well.
You're own example shows that. Why are you waiting for a PS4 game to hit $40? Why not buy it at 60?
LordOfChaos
Member
That's one reason I DON'T like Nintendo platforms. With my backlog [wait, is that a tOxIc WoRd now?] I rarely pay full price for AAA games, just waiting a few months on them. Why be proud of being parted with more money?
CaptainClaw
Member
Well its 2 games at $30 not 3. And why not let Nintendo increase the price or only sell Limited/Collectors then? Make games $75 they'd make more money than selling at $60. The Witcher 3 sold more copies on sale then it did at full price within first few weeks Im sure they made more money this way also.
MisterBrimstone
Member
Must hurt going to bed knowing you can't enjoy a PS Exclusive like God of War or Bloodborne which shit all over the entire Switch catalogue because you have to support your stupid stance.
GreatnessRD
Member
You should be a President or something. Top 5 quote of all-time, lol
CaptainClaw
Member
Again it's not really different yes a relatively high price is $what maybe $45-$40 no one is buying a second hand used Nintendo game for $70-$60 6-12 months later. So again if you buy a PS4 game (Spiderman) for $40 and sell it $20 how is that any different?.
And people could wait for games to hit $40 for a bunch of reasons...
1. Didn't have funds
2. Didn't want to spend $60
3. Rather buy another game first
4. Game slipped under their radar
5. Rather spend that $80/$70/$60 on 2 games
6. Other
StormCell
Member
Do those games really "shit all over the entire Switch catalogue"? I own both and haven't played either nearly as much as I've played BotW, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Fire Emblem Three Houses, and so on and so forth....
StormCell
Member
It just is different. I'll demonstrate... I was able to sell my whole Wii U game collection during that Gamestop trade-in special and in many cases I was getting $45 for games I bought at $50 via Amazon years earlier. You're not going to do that with very many Playstation (or Xbox) games, especially when superior/complete editions come out after the fact and for less than you paid for the original.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
AAA gaming will help Nintendo a ton next generation as it does every generation
MisterBrimstone
Member
Well to each their own but I happen to think they do. The point wasn't that though, it was that you are missing out big by being a "fanboy".
CaptainClaw
Member
That's good and all but not every game you was selling you was getting $45 for, no one (Today) is selling or buying Nintendo WII U games on ebay for $45 (obvs their are outliers).
Zelda Botw is $60 new still. Though on ebay most people are selling their used copies for around $40-$33 that's a -$20/-$27 value lost....You can get Spiderman new for $33 and people on ebay are selling it used for $23-$17 that's a -$8/-$16 lost of value.
So again where are you getting this more valuable argument. And if you were to use the money you made from reselling as Nintendo don't drop the prices for their games it means that more money would need to be put forward compared to a PS/Xbox game as they do drop in price and go on sale.
Obvs you're better off than someone who pays full $60 for PS/XB games but for those who buy there games on sale when it drops your value isn't better and your aren't better off.
Last edited:
StormCell
Member
I think you have a reasonable point here. The one thing I would add is that in the years to follow, those Nintendo games tend to retain their value, while if we look to the past, PS3/360 games are all dirt cheap to buy now. That would be the only difference I would see.
Otherwise, don't mistake me as someone who supports Nintendo's pricing. I think it's bullshit that they don't do more discounts. I like buying complete editions 2 years later for $20 or less. I feel great when publishers give me that avenue, and because of it... I haven't pirated games in a very long time. I just hope these prices are mutually beneficial so they don't go away.
D
Deleted member 471617
Unconfirmed Member
I understand what your friend is saying when it comes to Nintendo because unlike all other publishers, Nintendo never ever devalues their IP's which is brilliant because they stay at a high cost/high demand pretty much forever and rarely if ever drop in price or go on sale.
Plus, every game you can wait 4-6 weeks for it to drop from $60-$40 on sale including Sony, Microsoft, Ubisoft and all other third party games which means you won't always buy them day one unless you really want to play them. With Nintendo, it doesn't matter if it's day one or day 365, it's still $60.
I personally will always respect Nintendo for rarely if ever devaluing their IP's because with what they sell at full price, why would they? Plus, they're literally the only company who can remaster a 5+ year old game, sell it for $60 again and make even more sales and money than the first time. If I was running Nintendo, I would do the exact same shit because why wouldn't I? If people continue to buy their games at $60, I wouldn't even think of ever lowering the price because I know consumers will buy them regardless.
Also, this keeps their IP's highly valuable which in turn makes their company even more valuable. Think about this - if you sell your games for cheap prices and the IP's aren't worth much, if you ever need to sell the company or portions of it, why would anyone offer you full value when in their mind, they're devaluing their own products?
Plus, every game you can wait 4-6 weeks for it to drop from $60-$40 on sale including Sony, Microsoft, Ubisoft and all other third party games which means you won't always buy them day one unless you really want to play them. With Nintendo, it doesn't matter if it's day one or day 365, it's still $60.
I personally will always respect Nintendo for rarely if ever devaluing their IP's because with what they sell at full price, why would they? Plus, they're literally the only company who can remaster a 5+ year old game, sell it for $60 again and make even more sales and money than the first time. If I was running Nintendo, I would do the exact same shit because why wouldn't I? If people continue to buy their games at $60, I wouldn't even think of ever lowering the price because I know consumers will buy them regardless.
Also, this keeps their IP's highly valuable which in turn makes their company even more valuable. Think about this - if you sell your games for cheap prices and the IP's aren't worth much, if you ever need to sell the company or portions of it, why would anyone offer you full value when in their mind, they're devaluing their own products?
Silvawuff
Member
Does your friend's opinion about this matter? You might want to rethink your approach with this if you consider him your friend. If he saw this thread, would you two still be cool?
I will say I enjoy that a lot of Nintendo's games tend to keep their value longer than other platforms, just from being the walled garden it is -- sometimes being worth more used than I paid for them new. Ever check prices on Bravely Default or Solatorobo? Yiiiiiikes. Even their Pokemon titles keep their value pretty steady, years later.
I will say I enjoy that a lot of Nintendo's games tend to keep their value longer than other platforms, just from being the walled garden it is -- sometimes being worth more used than I paid for them new. Ever check prices on Bravely Default or Solatorobo? Yiiiiiikes. Even their Pokemon titles keep their value pretty steady, years later.
Are you purposely being obtuse? What part of retaining value do you not understand?
Yes, if you buy Spider-Man for 40, and sell it for 20, it isn't that different.
But follow me here, why would you buy Spider-Man at $40 if you could wait a month or two and get it at 20? By your own logic, it makes sense to wait for the price collapse.
I'm sorry, but not everyone is interested or cares.
The value to the consumer is the ability to resale over a longer period of time, because it retains higher value in the resell market. I could buy Zelda at launch for 60, hold it on to it for years, and sell it at 45. I don't need to wait a year for it to drop to $40. This really isn't diffucult.
No one is commenting on just the ability to sell a game. That is missing the point.