dimaveshkin
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That's cool to know that even binaries are patchable, but we still need to apply these patches. No way we gonna just store them on console alongside with original files.
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That's cool to know that even binaries are patchable, but we still need to apply these patches. No way we gonna just store them on console alongside with original files.
Thirty7ven
Banned
When vertically positioned, the console is taller. It isn't "bigger", since the XSX is wider. I don't expect pea brain people to get there though.
FeiRR
Banned
You can apply them with the max speed of I/O. Which means you can patch even the biggest game in less than a minute. I really hope it's how it's going to work. Most of patches I get download faster than install on PS4.
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dimaveshkin
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It's console warring, isn't it? Why do we need such content here? I know it's a parody, but it depicts Xbox users as absolute idiots, which is basically a lie. Also it adds no value to this thread besides it being a console war fuel.
FranXico
Member
Applying a binary diff (patch) is very slow with HDDs because you need to seek for the file, and with an offset. On top of that, the file needs to be reconstructed.
Seek times are negligible in SSDs.
dimaveshkin
Member
And that's almost how i described it too. Just because of 100x I/O speed increase installs will take mere seconds. But they will be still present.
thelastword
Banned
Man, that water detail in Horizon 2 is just straight bonkers......Guerilla must have said, you criticized our water in part 1....."Your'll gonna learn today".
Dealing with a polygon budget per frame instead of LOD's. Something never seen in a gaming device ever, an insane generational leap.
xacto
Member
If you consider it console warring, then report it. But I assure you it's not. It's as you said, parody. If you cannot take it, this is not the thread for you, just peruse through these 2000+ pages and make up your mind.
Also ignore function works wonders if you still cannot accept the ribbing.
geordiemp
Member
Its a good thing, making a slightly bigger box to make it run faster and still stay cool is not a negative IMO, its taller and slimmer and likely bigger volume than XSX and designed carefully to get every little extra performance from the parts. Good on you Sony IMO, better than a smaller = hotter & underclocked box of past designs.
XSX is a neat package carefully squeezed in a box, I would rather XSX was a bigger box and pushing a bit more than it is...
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FeiRR
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This scene is too short to examine but if the water whirl and the bubbles aren't clever texture tricks, it means water is physically modeled. Which would be mind-blowing.
saintjules
Member
Report: PS5 And Xbox Series X Won’t Release In China This Year
Sony and Microsoft announced a worldwide launch for PS5 and Xbox Series X for later this year but it seems China might not be a part of the release plans. According to a report from Niko Partners, the Chinese launch of PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X isn’t expected until 2021.
Report: PS5 And Xbox Series X Won't Release In China This Year
PS5 and Xbox Series X wont release in China until 2021. The release date for PS5 in China is expected to be sometime in 2021, Niko Reports.respawnfirst.com
Guess it's not worldwide after all. Little ironic?
DaGwaphics
Member
Unless the shots released are distorted by viewing angle, it looks like PS5 will be a bit bigger in volume. Taller and deeper, but narrower.
Killer Sakoman
Member
Jusy finished rewatching ps4 reveal. I feel sony was much better back in 2013 
. PS5 is fantastic, but I am little worried about sony and playstation.
. PS5 is fantastic, but I am little worried about sony and playstation.
thurnishaleygw
Member
Some people are making it seem like fitting a PS5 anywhere is going to be like this
It's big, sure, but seriously guys, it's okay, some are bigger than others.
It's big, sure, but seriously guys, it's okay, some are bigger than others.
Thirty7ven
Banned
It might have more volume, we will see. It will depend on whether it's the digital or the disk version too I'm guessing. I was just complaining about people who see a taller system and say "it's bigger". Or that it's huge because Sony fucked up the cooling solution.
Although consoles look better vertically and usually that's how they are displayed for promotional reasons, almost every setup I've ever seen has them laid down horizontally. I suspect that's why Sony wanted to preserve that kind of form factor.
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ZeroFool
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It was a good show all things considered in the world. Well produced and clean.
We like to make fun of the 3rd party MS zoom calls (Skype was not available I guess). I do think the 1st party event will be a better production.
Sony had that cool breathing logo thing that kept distracting me. I wonder if that will be a Screensaver option.
We like to make fun of the 3rd party MS zoom calls (Skype was not available I guess). I do think the 1st party event will be a better production.
Sony had that cool breathing logo thing that kept distracting me. I wonder if that will be a Screensaver option.
Nickolaidas
Member
You played Tokyo Jungle on the PS3?
Pretty sure he'll do a similar one next month in favor of MS once X Series X will announce a dozen of (console) exclusives.
Rudius
Member
All that GT 7 needs now is full VR support for the entire game. Do that and I will pre-order asap.
Shmunter
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Suspect that ssd must get pretty toastyso as a part of this new, fancy cooling system, they have included console body bigger than any other console ever. That’s some clever engineering
pasterpl
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The problem I have got with this statement is that I own both PS4 Pro and XboneX, guess which one is smaller and also more powerful, from what we have seen so far Xbsex is more powerful than PS5, (TFlops) and also smaller? In addition, look at the PPC space and eg. Razer Blade Pro laptops (I think that there are some with over 6TFlop GPUs) - these are small form, gaming rigs. That's what I call clever engineering.
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xacto
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If you don't like big consoles, just don't buy it, instead of being so "concerned" about the PS5 size. I gather you're happy with Xbox so why even bother?
Mr Moose
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It's like a shitty 3D glasses kind of effect, it's in a lot of games (Bloodborne has it and I wish it could be turned off), it's a camera lens issue but devs seem to think "lets include something cameras want to remove".I'm happy! Now you'll sleep less and hang out with us here more.
BTW, what's CA?
Chromatic aberration - Wikipedia
Nickolaidas
Member
I love Chromatic Aberration!!It's like a shitty 3D glasses kind of effect, it's in a lot of games (Bloodborne has it and I wish it could be turned off), it's a camera lens issue but devs seem to think "lets include something cameras want to remove".
Chromatic aberration - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Radical_3d
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Yes. Topically Sony had better engineering with the AC incorporated and such. But since the XOX Microsoft seems to had asked for advice to their neighbours in the Surface department because they are killing. it.
Gamerguy84
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Entertainment centers used to be two towers and a bridge over the top.
The one I have for componets is very long with no shelf breaks horizontally. I can fit 4 PS5 horizontally on mine, and most of the ones I see for sale.
I can tell this is going to be overplayed like a couple things about the PS4 that wasnt an issue for most.
The one I have for componets is very long with no shelf breaks horizontally. I can fit 4 PS5 horizontally on mine, and most of the ones I see for sale.
I can tell this is going to be overplayed like a couple things about the PS4 that wasnt an issue for most.
xacto
Member
It's latest in a long line of nitpicking, the size. Well, apparently, size does matter in the end.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Surface team needs a medal. Their engineering is outstanding.
Neo Blaster
Member
China is a whole different world inside, they have their own high def disc format only sold there.I remember when the Xbox One released in China and people first thought that would make a big impact in their sales. It didn't
sircaw
Banned
What a video, that was a quality production. Amazing acting tbh.
FeiRR
Banned
Simple answer: X1X has vapor chamber cooling, PS4 Pro has heatpipes. It was a wrong call by Sony, I have no idea why they went with that method, maybe production costs were too high a year earlier. Someone should ask Cerny about it in an interview. He admitted it was a mistake, also during The Road to PS5.
"Gaming" laptops are terrible things which overheat a lot and last 1-2 hours on battery power. There's nothing clever about them, it's just manufacturers milking naive gamers who want flashy things.
lepermessiah
Member
High clocked gpu needs room fam.
FeiRR
Banned
In fact they are expensive pieces of crap.
FranXico
Member
Really sounds like we're back at the glory days of the 360.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Sure Jan.
That report is the most shallow report I've seen. 25% of people "reported issues."
But hey keep trying.
dimaveshkin
Member
Don't try to make me look too sensitive, it does you no credit. A parody may be good and laughable or plain dumb and insulting. A parody is not a free pass for being a jerk.
it is not aimed against me, so me 'not taking it' is not a case.
This thread is for discussion of both consoles, don't try to privatize it. by declaring "it is not for you". I've reading it for pretty long time because it was first and foremost about discussing stuff. If we repel other side by mocking them without obvious reason (like a dumb response to a dumb post), it will become an echo chamber and I find it pretty unhealthy for any future discussion.
This opinion can be boring and unpopular, but it is what it is.
Neo Blaster
Member
They use MS Teams, not Zoom.It was a good show all things considered in the world. Well produced and clean.
We like to make fun of the 3rd party MS zoom calls (Skype was not available I guess). I do think the 1st party event will be a better production.
Sony had that cool breathing logo thing that kept distracting me. I wonder if that will be a Screensaver option.
xacto
Member
As far as I am concerned you can do anything you want as long as you drop the "holier than thou" attitude.
Coming in here and "observing" things then serving it to us is nothing new, you're just another one of those people who try to say the politically correct things while you're just trying hard to defend your console of choice. I guess you're new at this since you're taking this the hard way, but it's all right.
Keep fighting the good fight and don't bother to reply, you're just one of the many ignored now, I got no time for this.
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xacto
Member
You want more? Here it is. It keeps on giving, if you're looking for it.
Surface support shrivels as battery, driver, update problems persist
A wide range of problems, from hardware to drivers to software, continue to dog Microsoft Surface owners. Is Microsoft doing enough to help?
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
we can do this all dayYou want more? Here it is. It keeps on giving, if you're looking for it.
Surface support shrivels as battery, driver, update problems persist
A wide range of problems, from hardware to drivers to software, continue to dog Microsoft Surface owners. Is Microsoft doing enough to help?www.computerworld.com
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/9/27/17909662/consumer-reports-recommendation-microsoft-surface-laptop-book#:~:text=Consumer%20Reports%20has%20announced%20that,year%20over%20marked%20reliability%20concerns
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FeiRR
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In February, Microsoft released a Windows update which broke a lot of Surfaces. They can't even get it right with their own hardware, it seems. There is no fix for this problem yet (we're in June), only workarounds.
Last week they released a Windows 10 update which breaks PDF printing in many setups. But they have the most devoted, though mostly brain-dead, fanboys...
But it's off-topic, so let's stop.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
And Apple released Catalina that broke my entire buildings Wifi set up. Which STILL hasn't been fixed. My entire building had to revert back to Mojave.
Its almost like software has issues and in some cases can be catastrophic because of varying hardware profiles and set ups.
Nickolaidas
Member
At least it improved Microsoft Edge. It is a lot faster now, even when you go to YouTube.
MasterCornholio
Member
You want more? Here it is. It keeps on giving, if you're looking for it.
Surface support shrivels as battery, driver, update problems persist
A wide range of problems, from hardware to drivers to software, continue to dog Microsoft Surface owners. Is Microsoft doing enough to help?
Can we get back to discussing Xbox and PlayStation?
LordOfChaos
Member
"No pixel" will be untouched in the PS5 dashboard. I hope this is very clean and fast as fuck as the number one priority, the PS4's was just a webview, which with the poor single Jaguar core available was a choppy experience.
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www.theverge.com
Sony promises redesigned PS5 dashboard with ‘no pixel untouched’
There will be custom PS5 hardware in the future, too
www.theverge.com
ethomaz
Banned
It is smaller than Xbox, PS3 and Xbox One.so as a part of this new, fancy cooling system, they have included console body bigger than any other console ever. That’s some clever engineering
Probably smaller than Series X.
lepermessiah
Member
Yee, not a thicc boi, paper shredder, though I like the 'ol paper shredder.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Always laugh at the surface boasting. What’s so special about them? I only have experience with the laptop variant though, so I might be missing something. I own a XPS13 if that matters.
thurnishaleygw
Member
Yep, happened with Series X as well. Equally stupid.
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