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I thought he meant the hardware advantages over the PS5 would show? Maybe I interpreted that incorrectly
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zaitsu
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Thats not true. And even then, i didn't see title on xbox with even half quality of animations present in god of war or tlou2. Beside Sony and Rockstar all games lack immersion due to cartoon animations. Can hellblade look better than horizon ? Yes it can, because its walking simulator with generic fights vs openworld game. I want new IP and zelda like fable. Then we can talk about buying XSX.
BadBreathOfTheWild
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I’ve always been impressed by GTA animations. They dynamically lead into each other or physics based rag-dolling, and the characters have momentum, and react to where they have been hit etc.
I think God of War (intentionally for gameplay reasons) can stop any animation and instantly snap to another and your brain kind of fills in the gaps. I think I recall developers talking about it once, and it being a compromise to keep the controls responsive.
I think TLoU2 strikes the best balance I’ve seen so far between context and environment aware animations and responsive controls.
This is more down to developer resource and time spent researching than any processing power required, too.
Tripolygon
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Nope. Constant power just means that it is not allowed to exceed a certain threshold. Power draw is a result of transistor flips or work being done. If there is no work being done then there is no power draw.
BadBreathOfTheWild
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It’s kind of both. Not being able to exceed a certain power threshold applies to fixed clocks, too.
We don’t know the specifics but it should be that when the system is under load it will adjust frequency to keep power constant.
As it has been described by Cerny that doesn’t mean occasionally scaling up to maximum clocks when there’s not much happening, but it being designed to sit at them under expected game loads and dropping them while keeping power constant when the power draw is unusually high.
Examples given for high power draw scenes include a low triangle map screen, or extensive use of power hungry instructions that they otherwise couldn’t anticipate if designing a fixed-clock system.
Variable clocks with a fixed power target that is independent of any die or ambient temperature is entirely about having a deterministic cooling target and being able to run game code at clock speeds impossible to run at with a fixed clock that has to anticipate edge cases like uncapped map screens or unusually high power hungry instruction usage, like the 128-bit native instructions Cerny gives as an example.
It’s how they’re getting so much out of many less CUs. It’s part of what was being whispered as “brute force vs efficiency” before any specifications were made public.
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B_Boss
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But Sony already has done “better” with its SSD+I/O engineering, and who knows what else, for both consoles as of yet. This is exactly what Sony (in particular) wished and set out to do. They didn’t seem to want a powerhouse console in the GPU area as MS is pushing with its marketing. MS has its narrative for their nice box they want to tell consumers as does Sony. Those who prefer Sony’s consoles for their gaming hobby, I believe that they already know they’re going to get good value for their choice and for the remainder of nextgen.
Bottom line is, in the technical and scientific sense each console is stronger, and at the very least, noticeably distinguished from one another.
BadBreathOfTheWild
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Bo_Hazem
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Well, PS5 gets massive attention, more like followers harvesting to me.
Thirty7ven
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Think he’s talking framerate. Seems to me like he’s just following up on the premise of “higher framerates”. The interesting thing about that is that the higher framerates will be enabled by the fact that their games are also aimed at much weaker hardware, and little to do with the XSX itself.
MasterCornholio
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I don't even know whats going on there, infact i don't want to know.
Kill it with FIRE.
Probably to get themselves high.
saintjules
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MS just needs to say $399 for the Series X if they're worried about being undercut and get it over with (j/k).
If that did happen though, Sony would only match that and couldn't go lower. I know they want to make as much as possible but, let's get this over with already.
3liteDragon
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Neo Blaster
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If there will be no first party XSX exclusives for 2 years, I really don't expect that image quality for something that must run on Xbox One S. But if it is exclusive, then I don't think we'll see any gameplay so early.
MasterCornholio
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I honestly think that's why Sony is going with two SKUs so they can be more flexible with pricing. Doesn't mean they don't have their limits on how low they can price it. Same goes for Microsoft.
Neo Blaster
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Rare in their golden age, their first shooter(GoldenEye 007) revived the FPS genre. Perfect Dark was great too, but outside Nintendo 64 the franchise was never the same.
Neo Blaster
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I remember seeing somewhere there would be no gameplay this year.That would be a cool lineup to see! The only one I think is less likely is the Elden Ring. I don't think we're going to see anything on that till at least end of year. I'm just thinking if George R.R. Martin can't even finish his last Song of Ice and Fire BOOK...he probably can't write a game script quickly either!
saintjules
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Thirty7ven
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Perfect Dark “franchise” had one big moment 20 years ago. Microsoft going at it again after the horrible 360 entry is senseless. Just do a new IP.
saintjules
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For their digital consoles, yes for sure.
Neo Blaster
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Wonder whether it was related to PS5 reveal, or maybe the 'no gameplay' backlash.
Neo Blaster
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We Bare Bears, from Cartoon Network.
Neo Blaster
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Spencer says a lot of things...
sircaw
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What about me FFS, i am bloody nice too.
BadBreathOfTheWild
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You’ve got a lovely smile.
sircaw
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That's a good start at your redemption, i'll take it.
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MasterCornholio
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In expecting the disk version to be priced at 499$. The DE will be from 399$-449$ in my opinion.
Tiago07
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I honestly never played a game in the series, but I have a very Zelda fan friend who assured me that Fable had the potential to be a "Zelda". It turns out that it’s not very hard to find Xbox 360 fans who have some feeling for the series, so I think its was a great game.
Bo_Hazem
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sircaw
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You're not! I'm done with you, I'll let the cat take it from here.
What the hell man, i thought we were Brothers in arms.
I know that's a reference to a Dire straights album but still.
Keep up this onslaught against me am i am done with this place,
Reset Error here i come, at-least its a place were i can feel included and i am allowed to speak my mind.
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Deleted member 775630
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At least he delivers when they promise games running at 120fps.
Ass of Can Whooping
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He hasn't delivered anything yet
Setsuna Mudou
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No pressure then (if you're right that is)... they better put up or shut up already.
Bo_Hazem
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Neo Blaster
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Have you seen a 120 fps game running on XSX? I'm really curious here...
MasterCornholio
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Which first party games are running at 120FPS? You did say Phil himself so I'm wondering if I missed any 120FPS first party titles.
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sircaw
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Just wanted to provoke you, going out so wanna come back and see some drama.
MODS, help me.
I am meant to be a protected species in here.
Where's Geordie, as a fellow member of the United Kingdom he will back me up.
Oh wait hes Scottish, never mind.
As for going out, Say hello to your Therapist, ask for more pills.
And i don't mind being insulted by covid, neogaf personal but did you have to scoop so low with the xbox guy kicking me. Unforgettable.
Peace to my Xbox friends out there.
Join forces with me, ATTACK BO.
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SSfox
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If Perfect Dark is real that could be excting if done right.
Honestly i wasn't that much looking forward about the Xbox show, and while of course we'll have to wait and see the concrete stuffs, but things already starting to smell good and better than the last 10 years of Xbox.
PS: Still one of the best VG TV spot ever made.
MasterCornholio
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I think he's talking about Dirt but that's a third party game. Both consoles have promised to be able to output 120FPS. It's up to developers to design their games that way.
SSfox
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Honestly MS need to stop already with this 120 fps talk, don't come cry and do your innocence stance you MS PR guys when people will bash MS cause no games will run at 120 except few Indies at best cases.
Neo Blaster
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Again, we still have to see a game really running on XSX, let alone on 120fps. Spencer delivered nothing so far.
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Dont know why they left yakuza off PS5 since it's already on PS4
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Dirt 5? Or you think the developers themselves are also lying?
Why first party? A game is enough. Dirt 5 in this case. And the comment itself was more as a joke to point out that saying stuff and then not delivering happens on both sides.
did you put Deathloop 2 times in PS5 just to make the PS5 list bigger?
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Clandsiota
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The developers of dirt 5 confirmed that there is a 120fps mode for XSX
Dirt 5 can be played in 120 FPS on Xbox Series X
Codemasters' recently revealed upcoming entry in the Dirt series will be able to run in 120fps on Xbox Series X.
Regarding „running on XSX“ lol let’s just wait for the launch of the console. So far, Sony not MS showed any game running on the actual console. Or did anyone actually see the console running a game? I don’t think so
Ass of Can Whooping
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It's a loop lol
Neo Blaster
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Let me say again that part about 'running on XSX'. All we had so far was in-game cutscenes running on PC.
Neo Blaster
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Gotta love that stretching...The developers of dirt 5 confirmed that there is a 120fps mode for XSX
Dirt 5 can be played in 120 FPS on Xbox Series X
Codemasters' recently revealed upcoming entry in the Dirt series will be able to run in 120fps on Xbox Series X.www.gamereactor.eu
Regarding „running on XSX“ lol let’s just wait for the launch of the console. So far, Sony not MS showed any game running on the actual console. Or did anyone actually see the console running a game? I don’t think so
Oh, it's a neo account.
Is there any actual proof that any nextgen games are running on actual consoles? Like, did we see an actual PS5 running a game?
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