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[VN1X]

Wow never knew we have so many stock investors on this board! Either that or some of you are truly insufferable fanboys.

I wonder how someone goes about their life that way, being that much invested in a piece of electronics. Lord alive, do you personally identify with the components found inside or something?

 

[R3claimer117]

So you are saying xbox one x is 4k and stronger than the ps5??

you have to be trying really hard to read that from what I wrote try again please. No one said anything that stupid. I clearly said the one x has a power advantage over the pro and the series x has a power advantage over the PS5 in their respective versions if that happens to be the case with the resolution. No one said the one x and PS5 version of the game where the same code or assets. Don’t be ridiculous.

 

[Thirty7ven]

The current gen version will be using lower graphic settings.

As an example A gtx 1060 can push 4K resolutions if the settings are low enough while a rtx2080 can struggle with 4k on a modern game with visuals pushed to "ultra"

And the XSX will run lower settings than the max PC version.

This argument is nonsense.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

Maybe X1X can do 4k with *current gen* assets and settings but the PS5 may not be able to do 4k with *next gen* assets and settings.So they lowered res and kept next gen assets

You're probably right but don't you know if it ain't 4k its dog shit? A lot of console exclusive players assume 4k means overall upgrade when its strictly resolution.

1440p w/best assets vs 4k w/low-med assets are different games, and I'll always take the former.

 

[Jtibh]

You

What were you expecting? These are 2080/S and 2070/S class GPU's. The only legitimate 4K/60fps card on the market(and even then, not all the time) is the 2080 Ti. If you want 4K60fps, you'll have to dial back on the graphics to the point they'll be almost indiscernible from last gen.

You are missing the point.

They call this game has a next gen version .
If this game on next gen is still locked 30 then there is no reson not to run it 4k native on ps5

Especialy when the xone x at 6 teraflop runs it at 4k native

 

[PSYGN]

Wow never knew we have so many stock investors on this board! Either that or some of you are truly insufferable fanboys.

I wonder how someone goes about their life that way, being that much invested in a piece of electronic. Lord alive, do you personally identify with the components found inside or something?

But, but, but... SSD!!! The answer to all things!!

 

[Jigsaah]

So, they want me to believe that the PS5 can’t handle even a early cross-gen game with high quality assets at 4k?

This is bullshit, both consoles are very powerful, and not even the slight hardware advantage that Series X has should translate into this kind of disparity.

This is just Ubi building unoptimized games as usual

Ubisoft does have a problem with optimization...tis true.

 

[Thugnificient]

It would be weird if X1X was 4K and PS5 wasn’t if only because clearly they are trying to hit that res on that platform and considering the game is coming out on a thousand different configurations, it would make sense to simply turn down some of the effects a notch and get the PS5 at 4K. Either 4K is a target for them or it isn’t. It’s like them getting the XSX sub 4K simply because they decided to apply even higher settings (like you can on PC).

Regardless and despite what the morons think, the difference between a 1800p image and a 4 image isn’t the same as 900p and 1080p and will take an eagle eye to notice it.

It’s weird though and there seems to Be some confusion around it so I’m gonna call fake.

Wouldn't call it fake but the post might be just wrong.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it hit 4K/30 on both. Maybe XSX has better reflections, RT effects, or slightly better shadows or something like that.

I wouldn't like the PR that my next-gen console isn't hitting 4K whereas the last-gen X1X is if I was Sony. My guess is they'll take whatever visual hit to get that 4K badge.

 

[JimboJones]

And the XSX will run lower settings than the max PC version.

This argument is nonsense.

What argument?
I'm making a point that there is nothing strange in weaker hardware pushing 4k resolutions if they have effects lowered in other areas of the game.

 

[Kuranghi]

4K Ultra HD is just the marketing moniker which Xbox uses. Ask them again does Far Cry 6 run at 2160p on PS5 and I'm sure the answer would be yes. I'll eat a teacake if not.

I came here to say this. I will also eat a teacake if this isn't the case. Both versions with output frames at 2160p res because thats the output of the console, it remains to be seen if they use reconstruction or other methods to get to 2160p. So this tells us literally nothing, the PS5 could do native 2160p while the XSX could reconstruct from 1440p for all we know, its extremely unlikely but just trying to make a point. Its more probable that both output at native 2160p but are locked to 30 since I doubt they will bother to optimise their engine to do 60 on next-gen consoles, they'd maybe offer an much lower res (reconstructed/upscaled to 2160p) at 60, but I bet even then it won't hold 60.

DO NOT hold your breath for 60 fps ubisoft crossgen games on PS5/XSX, they will focus on keeping the framerate at 30 and add in more tech like RT, while keeping it as close to 2160p as they can. Only way it will be 60 on next-gen is if its running at 1080p-1440p internally (always reconstructed to 2160p mind), but I doubt they'd do that even with DLSS 2.0 style technology because they don't care about 60 fps, they care about image quality.

More information here:

Leading Television Industry Players Line Up To Support ‘4K Ultra HD’ - CEA

The Consumer Electronics Association supports the consumer technology industry through market research, education and public policy representation.

web.archive.org

I think its been superseded by other similar things now, its all just a load of shite so they can put sticker on console/TV/etc boxes. Its like Samsung's HDR 1000/2000/XXXX ratings, its a test they use that is just straight up biased af. Done my VDE I think, which do good work but the test they use is out of date to make their TVs sound good on paper. LG sued them because of this behavior in 2016 because they kept trying to slag off OLED with borderline lies.

Its why an "HDR 2000" branded Samsung TV has a peak brightness of like 800 nits. They don't use the word "nits" so they can just talk out of their asses lol.

 

[Bonfires Down]

Not strange at all. It makes sense to use every bit of power of the XSX for RT or whatever, and since the PS4 is weaker it follows that the resolution will be a bit lower. The bigger issue is that the game will likely be 30 fps .

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

this is why i'm ditching PS and going Xbox. i want the best performance (and yes i have a PC before anyone tells me to get one)

But...4k has nothing to do with performance. PC will have the best performance depending on your build.

4k is just resolution.

 

[Jigsaah]

You

You are missing the point.

They call this game has a next gen version .
If this game on next gen is still locked 30 then there is no reson not to run it 4k native on ps5

Especialy when the xone x at 6 teraflop runs it at 4k native

Agreed, if it's not 60fps, both version should sacrifice 4k to get there in my opinion

 

[Dolomite]

It's a cross-gen game, surely they lower settings on the PS5 version (between One X and Series X settings) to have it run at 4K. If the OneX GPU can push 4K, so can the PS5 GPU.
The SSD has nothing to do with it.

The one x will be pushing a 4k version of the current gen farcry 6.

The XSX will run the full next gen version at 4K UHD. I'm guessing the PS5 version favors performance (keeping the gameplay,RT?, Fps equal) but may not be able to target the 4KUHD if performance is meant to be Comparable

 

[Stuart360]

Agreed, if it's not 60fps, both version should sacrifice 4k to get there in my opinion

I think if they were just running the current gen version, both next gen consoles have the gpu and cpu power to hit 4k/60. But if Ubisoft are pushing better effects and ray tracing into the next gen version, well framerate will be a problem.
People need to get used to the idea of 30fps still being the 'norm' next gen, especially in ray traced games.

 

[VN1X]

But, but, but... SSD!!! The answer to all things!!

OMEGA LUL!

No but for real, this thread is a dumpster fire. Honestly reads like the ravings of a bunch of 7yo's warring over who has the better console at home; Genesis or SNES. Pathetic stuff. I'mma put this one on ignore. I have no stake in either of the 'big two' but it would be nice if we don't have to scan PR blurbs for fuckin' typo's so we can understand which platform will have the 'best' version of their bloody games lol.

 

[Kuranghi]

Just to reiterate again in a separate post:

This is a marketing term used by coalitions of companies to make their products sound better than the competition, its just a sticker on a box. Samsung does the same on their TVs with "UHD Alliance Certified", Sony did it on one of their models in 2018 because it was directly made to compete with the QLED lineup, they did it literally just because Samsung did it so they could have the sticker on the box.

There is nothing to be gleaned from this information. T-Cake already said this on the first page as well lol.

 

[Thugnificient]

You

You are missing the point.

They call this game has a next gen version .
If this game on next gen is still locked 30 then there is no reson not to run it 4k native on ps5

Especialy when the xone x at 6 teraflop runs it at 4k native

Yeah makes sense. I still think it’ll be 4K on PS5.

 

[Mithos]

I have not seen on any game on PS4 where I know I can pick 4k or 4k CB ingame have 4K mentioned on the case in logo form or text. at best they have PS4 Pro Enhanced, which not always means a 4k mode.
I bet Sony have no "logo moniker" ready for being put on PS5 cases either (at least not yet).

 

[Kuranghi]

Yeah makes sense. I still think it’ll be 4K on PS5.

I'm sure it will too, AC:Vahalla runs at 4K30 on XSX/PS5 we are told. This game is also cross gen so will be 4K30 as well, because if anything Far Cry 6 will have more complex CPU stuff happening than in AC:V because of all the explosions and vehicles physics.

 

[Allandor]

Maybe X1X can do 4k with *current gen* assets and settings but the PS5 may not be able to do 4k with *next gen* assets and settings.So they lowered res and kept next gen assets

That's what I think, too. Also next Gen is not the primary target as the audience will be quite small until enough consoles get sold. So they might just cranked everything up until it ran with 60fps on Xbox series x and than lowered the resolution until it ran like it should. Don't expect any optimisation so soon for cross hen titles.
the calculation is quite simple. If they maxed everything for the stronger console they can just reduce resolution or reduce other details. Resolution at this high point is the easiest and less noticeable than other things.

There are better ways to increase image quality than resolution. Resolution helps but at some point (different from game to game) it doesn't help much.

 

[T-Cake]

There is nothing to be gleaned from this information. T-Cake already said this on the first page as well lol.

Aye but I also think that LeftThumbstick makes a good post as well.

Far Cry 6 is running 4k on One X & Series X, No Information on other consoles at this time

XSX has around 20% extra GPU power. Resolution would be the best way to scale, keeping everything else on par.

www.neogaf.com

 

[Kuranghi]

I have not seen on any game on PS4 where I know I can pick 4k or 4k CB ingame have 4K mentioned on the case in logo form or text. at best they have PS4 Pro Enhanced, which not always means a 4k mode.
I bet Sony have no "logo moniker" ready for being put on PS5 cases either (at least not yet).

Yeah, they never say it unless its one of these meaningless accreditations because they could get in legal hot water because the game doesn't actually run internally at native 4K, or they can say it "outputs 4K" and get around the whole issue.

 

[ManaByte]

And the XSX will run lower settings than the max PC version.

This argument is nonsense.

Well we know that Gears 5 on XSX is running in 4K with all of the Ultra settings on PC and some things like particles set higher than even that.

 

[Bryank75]

Only Ubisoft game that I might get is WD3.

They probably feel bad that their flagship series being completely overshadowed by Ghost of Tsushima.

Maybe Ubisoft games just aren't very iconic!?

 

[thebigmanjosh]

PS5 is going to run at lower settings and/or resolution than XSX, but this smells more like BS marketing since they claim XSX and Xbox One.

FC6 could run at 4K on PS5 but it won’t have the “4K Ultra HD” badge.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

It confuses the hell out of me when people obsess over 4k when the game runs at 30fps. If the resolution was lowered in order to hit 60fps I guarantee you people would change their mind about chasing 4k cause the game simply plays that much better.

 

[Thugnificient]

Well we know that Gears 5 on XSX is running in 4K with all of the Ultra settings on PC and some things like particles set higher than even that.

Because they will re-release it for the XSX. Won't be the case with Far Cry 6 so either it'll be on par with PC's max or worse.

 

[SleepDoctor]

If I remember correctly people in the Sony.. err i mean spec thread had said xsx might have the resolution advantage but it didn't matter.

First game to hint at better resolution and everyone is upset now. "Keep that same energy" .

I thought ssd could stream 8k tho as per the spec thread .

 

[Qudrat Rabbi]

The disclaimer on the back is definitely just to clarify when you buy the “Xbox” version, that has 4K on the case, it will only support 4K on X1X and XSX. Not OG Xbox One. It will def run 4K on PS5.

but it is fun seeing people go crazy in here

look at you man, so inspirational. (i had to im sorry)

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

The Ps5 could have a native 4K Mode and then a performance mode. Same with the XSX.

That could be why there's some confusion over this.

Yeah I'm expecting at least 4K 30 on PS5.

The thing though is we know Ubisoft console games traditionally don't have 60 FPS. Maybe that will change going forward?

Assuming they still lock to 30 FPS, that limits Performance Mode to 30 FPS. Maybe 4K 30 FPS and no RT? Meanwhile also having native 1440p 30 FPS with RT enabled? I'm going off assuming Performance equaling a focus off of graphical effects and more on fidelity, assuming RT would be a performance hit.

Meanwhile Series X could have 4K 30 with RT enabled which might explain the sticker. One X could be 4K 30 but obviously no RT and using lower-quality assets than PS5 and Series X. That could give option on PS5 for a 4K 30 FPS with RT too but maybe using those same lower-quality assets? Dunno how Ubisoft, Sony or gamers would feel about that though.

Them listing XBO though is ridiculous, everyone knows that and base PS4 can't handle this game in 4K regardless of how much you lower the asset quality and even with RT gone, unless you'd want 10-12 FPS or so (if not less than that).

 

[itsjustJEFF]

Wait what?

FarCry 6 is 4k Ultra HD on Series X and Xbox One ONLY. This cross-gen game is not 4K on the PS4 or PS5... Is this confirmation that XBox One is more powerful than PS5?!?! That doesn't make any sense. It's a cross-gen game, that's already 4K Ultra on the old hardware but then can't be 4K Ultra on the new hardware. Unless FarCry 6, next gen copies, are getting a major upgrade. Does anyone think this is likely the case? From all indications, well based on previous generations, cross-gen games have always been just a res bump, some better textures and better fps.

Well, now that I think of it. I could kinda see why it could be CB 4K Ultra on PS5. Ubisoft is a 3rd party studio and according to a lot of people, these types of studios will usually not put a lot of work into optimizing for newer hardware. They'll throw the code in and just make sure it works, is that accurate? If that is the case that extra 2TF could have been the difference. But who knows, could just be a marketing deal right? Relax boys, relax.

 

[Stuart360]

Only Ubisoft game that I might get is WD3.

They probably feel bad that their flagship series being completely overshadowed by Ghost of Tsushima.

Maybe Ubisoft games just aren't very iconic!?

Well seen as though Ghost is pretty much 'Assassins Creed Japan', i'd say they are iconic to Sucker Punch.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Wouldn't call it fake but the post might be just wrong.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it hit 4K/30 on both. Maybe XSX has better reflections, RT effects, or slightly better shadows or something like that.

I wouldn't like the PR that my next-gen console isn't hitting 4K whereas the last-gen X1X is if I was Sony. My guess is they'll take whatever visual hit to get that 4K badge.

If we look at PC, in similar GPUs, it’s as easy as scaling back effects like shadows. You hit the target straight away with minor tweaks so here it just seems nonsense.

Maybe they think the effects make a bigger difference than native 4K but it’s a cross gen game so it doesn’t inspire confidence if you don’t hit 4K. In this case.

What argument?
I'm making a point that there is nothing strange in weaker hardware pushing 4k resolutions if they have effects lowered in other areas of the game.

In the sense that lowering graphical settings to hit target res and framerate is a concept that can be applied across the board.

 

[Bryank75]

You

You are missing the point.

They call this game has a next gen version .
If this game on next gen is still locked 30 then there is no reson not to run it 4k native on ps5

Especialy when the xone x at 6 teraflop runs it at 4k native

If I were Sony, I would just stop them from publishing the game on any PlayStation platform... fuck em. This is ridiculous!

 

[geordiemp]

So MS have the marketing deal and Ubisoft only mention mS products.

No mention of ps5 becasue of marketing deal

GAF Geniuses assume that means Ps5 will explode if it tries to run this game.

There is no hope for humanity.

 

[Kuranghi]

Aye but I also think that LeftThumbstick makes a good post as well.

Far Cry 6 is running 4k on One X & Series X, No Information on other consoles at this time

XSX has around 20% extra GPU power. Resolution would be the best way to scale, keeping everything else on par.

www.neogaf.com

I do think that could be correct and given the difference in PS5 and XSX spec its probably very likely, I just don't think this text has anything to do with that. So while I agree its something I could assume from what we already know, this news doesn't affect those assumptions.

 

[Stuart360]

It confuses the hell out of me when people obsess over 4k when the game runs at 30fps. If the resolution was lowered in order to hit 60fps I guarantee you people would change their mind about chasing 4k cause the game simply plays that much better.

Although i agree with your post, i dont think that many people obsess over 4k. I think if you did a poll on here, 70-80% of users would prefer 1440p/60 over 4k/30.

 

[Bryank75]

Well seen as though Ghost is pretty much 'Assassins Creed Japan', i'd say they are iconic to Sucker Punch.

Naaa Ghost looks way more beautiful and has compelling gameplay... based on skill rather than spongy enemies that force you to grind to beat them...or buy Ubisoft microtransactions!

 

[Wizz-Art]

Wtf does 4k ultra HD mean?

4K UHD is terminology used by all the movie distribution companies yes also Sony Home Entertainment, I was very surprised to read some members here didn't even have a clue that it's a normal thing in the scene.

 

[Nikana]

If I remember correctly people in the Sony.. err i mean spec thread had said xsx might have the resolution advantage but it didn't matter.

First game to hint at better resolution and everyone is upset now. "Keep that same energy" .

I thought ssd could stream 8k tho as per the spec thread .

 

[Bladed Thesis]

Only Ubisoft game that I might get is WD3.

They probably feel bad that their flagship series being completely overshadowed by Ghost of Tsushima.

Maybe Ubisoft games just aren't very iconic!?

And poorly optimized game after game after game.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Well we know that Gears 5 on XSX is running in 4K with all of the Ultra settings on PC and some things like particles set higher than even that.

Gears 5 runs at ultra with just one or two settings at very high on a GTX 1050ti, 1080p, and runs at over 45 FPS.

Gears 5 isn’t exactly a benchmark.

 

[Nikana]

4K UHD is terminology used by all the movie distribution companies yes also Sony Home Entertainment, I was very surprised to read some members here didn't even have a clue that it's a normal thing in the scene.

Wakanda Forever

 

[Bryank75]

'This isn't what gaming's about!' - Phil Spencer

 

[Hendrick's]

So MS have the marketing deal and Ubisoft only mention mS products.

No mention of ps5 becasue of marketing deal

GAF Geniuses assume that means Ps5 will explode if it tries to run this game.

There is no hope for humanity.

The PS4/PS5 logo is clearly on the same image and PR clarified that 4K is only for Xbox One X and Series X. So you can only believe they are either wrong or lying.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

Although i agree with your post, i dont think that many people obsess over 4k. I think if you did a poll on here, 70-80% of users would prefer 1440p/60 over 4k/30.

Possibly, I see threads like these where as soon as one platform has 4k and the other doesn't people assume the 4k version is automatically better not even taking into consideration the benefits the lower res version may have.

 

[Tripolygon]

We're talking about Ubisofts ad (see Mister Wolf's post above) not box art. Those two things are different.
It's very possible its a mistake and that the PS5 version does do 4K. I'm sure a lot of PS5 games will do 4K. It's just interesting that Ubisoft's fine print explicitly says 4K is only on Xbox. Will that be the case come launch? Who knows.

You're talking about Ubisoft marketing material that has to follow Sony and Microsoft branding guideline. Look it says and HDR on Xbox One S and newer consoles only. Notice they make no mention of PS4, Pro and PS5? That is not Sony marketing guideline, all Xbox marketing must include 4K Ultra HD and HDR and Smart delivery if it supports it on the marketing material. It is even in the trademark and brandmark disclaimer section. When was the last time a game actually told you the actual render resolution on the box or marketing material?

 

[geordiemp]

The PS4/PS5 logo is clearly on the same image and PR clarified that 4K is only for Xbox One X and Series X. So you can only believe they are either wrong or lying.

Keep believing, its so funny - Ubi have already said 4K in an interview, but keep going, just want to see how delerious posters are

Must be 720p

 

[StreetsofBeige]

4K UHD is terminology used by all the movie distribution companies yes also Sony Home Entertainment, I was very surprised to read some members here didn't even have a clue that it's a normal thing in the scene.

They do know.

They were just hoping nobody would bring up movie labels.

Don't be surprised if the naysayers magically disappear from the thread going forward.