ShadowNate
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I'd include 1997 in that time frame.2. There was. 1998-2003 the most of the best PC games ever were produced then. Including Crysis.
I'd include 1997 in that time frame.2. There was. 1998-2003 the most of the best PC games ever were produced then. Including Crysis.
The period in which we got Warcraft 3, World of Warcraft, Crysis, Half Life 2, Command and a Conquer Tiberium Sun, and playing Diablo 2, Starcraft UMS maps was pretty great.1. PC is not a platform.
2. There was. 1998-2003 the most of the best PC games ever were produced then. Including Crysis.
I can't get first party Nintendo games on PC, so
Not by a long shot.Consoles are close to being PCs
Was just about to write the exact same thing. Those years on the pc blew me away, infact they're exactly why I started building and gaming on pc's.1. PC is not a platform.
2. There was. 1998-2003 the most of the best PC games ever were produced then. Including Crysis.
I have plenty.Not really honestly. There is just about everything for everyone and it's never been easier to jump on the platform and have very little reason to buy a console anymore outside of exclusives.
That'll only be true when consoles become open platforms, which will probably be never if we leave it to the likes of Sony and Nintendo.Consoles are close to being PCs
Will try to help a fellow player out. You might already know some but see if any of those interest you:On one hand, I really struggle to find modern pc games that I'm interested in. As someone who loves RTS, third person RPGs and MMOs, nearly all games I've played in the last few years are fairly old games, or at best remasters of old games. Wow classic, AoE 2 HD, stronghold HD, etc.
I can't get first party Nintendo games on PC, so
PC has tons of exclusives, AA and Indie games that dont come to console. RTS games, which you may not like as a console gamer, but they are huge business on PC. 50-100 games release on Steam a day, literally. Sure a lot of them are shovelware, but its still fact.PC doesnr really have any stellar exclusives any more like the golden age years ago when you had your half lifes, CS etc. PC gaming now is the ultimate port begging machine.
I mean AAA bangers like Gears, god of war, ghost of tsushima, the last of us, Mario, Zelda etcPC has tons of exclusives, AA and Indie games that dont come to console. RTS games, which you may not like as a console gamer, but they are huge business on PC. 50-100 games release on Steam a day, literally. Sure a lot of them are shovelware, but its still fact.
PC gets all games, except Nintendo exclusives, and Sony exclusives, and its looking increasingly like thats coming to an end regarding Sony exclusives.
And its not just about the games, its the freedom PC brings, in terms of graphics settings, resolution and framerate, mods, trainers, their whole game library available to them regardless of age or hardware, controller or mouse and keyboard, the list goes on.
PC already gets Gears, and all Xbox first party games. Sony's games are coming too imo, they are not releasing 2 or 3 and then suddenly going to stop for some strange reason. PC gets every multiplatform AAA game as well.I mean AAA bangers like Gears, god of war, ghost of tsushima, the last of us, Mario, Zelda etc
the whole era before the launch of the original XBox was better for the PC. It had tons of exclusive games that were impossible on consoles. back then only the cool kids had PCs that played Half-Life/Quake/Lucas Arts&Sierra adventure games/Diablo/Ultima.I was just browsing the Steam best-sellers list, and noticed what an impressive variety of games which are available on the platform, including many types of games that you wouldn't have seen a few years back. While the arguments for getting a PC frequently revolve around the "power" issue, as with consoles it is the games that are the most important factor. Here are a couple of screenshots from the top 50:
You can see that there are a good selection of traditional PC games (some of which are now making their way to consoles):
- Civilisation 6
- Euro Truck Simulator 2 (not my cup of tea, but seems really popular)
- Age of Empires
- Divinity: Original Sin 2
- Three Kingdoms: Total War
Formerly Playstation Exclusives:
- Death Stranding
- Horizon Zero Dawn
- Detroit Become Human
Formerly Xbox Exclusives:
- Halo
- Sea of Thieves
The type of Japanese made games which were absent from the platform for a long while:
- Persona 4 Golden
- Sekiro: Heroes Die Twice
While it could be argued that the PC is lacking some of the wow-like marquee game games of the past (with many games being made with an eventual console port in mind), stuff like Half Life: Alyx is still pushing the boundaries. For some of the games (notably the Playstation stuff) PC gamers will still have to wait a while for a port, but Xbox games at least is pretty much day and date now. Apart from Nintendo, is there anything else really missing?
For me, it would be nice if Xbox could expand their support to include the BC games from the OG Xbox and 360. Nintendo stuff, including the Switch now, can be emulated pretty well, but not everybody wants to go through the hassle of doing that. I personally wouldn't want to bet any money on Nintendo stuff officially coming within the next decade.
So, for those with better knowledge of the PC than me, has there ever been a time when there were a greater range of PC and console games available for the platform than today?
And i also said their own, thats why i said pc is the biggest port begging machine of AAA games since the golden age endedPC already gets Gears, and all Xbox first party games. Sony's games are coming too imo, they are not releasing 2 or 3 and then suddenly going to stop for some strange reason. PC gets every multiplatform AAA game as well.
No company 'owns' PC, and with game budgets being so high, thats why PC doesnt get the Crysis and Quakes anymore. It would be the same on console if Microsoft and Sony didnt own them either.
PC doesnr really have any stellar exclusives any more like the golden age years ago when you had your half lifes, CS etc. PC gaming now is the ultimate port begging machine.
That PC players still sit and play stuff like CS, League, and WOW says a lot. That's games from 2-3 generations ago. Userbases do not mean quality. Top budget games these days are either console exclusives or multi-platform, but back then you had huge top-tier PC only games, I mean WoW and CS is games from that era. Total War is actually a good example, to make those games profitable they revamp the basics and re-skin it, while I like those games it's still very much a safe strategy to make a profit. If that was 2000-ish, they would take the time and money and completely rebuild the games and move them forward.What the fuck are you talking about.
CS is still on PC, and it's one of the biggest games out there.
League of legends is one of the biggest games in the world, PC exclusive.
It's not even comparable, these game have userbases that dwarf any console exclusive.
Not to mention exclusives like factorio, disco elysium (Which ironically there's been "port begging" for consoles), the entire total war series, all the vr games that are exclusive to pc, any strategy games (crusader kings, stellaris, etc), all the great indies that are actually pushing innovation in the gameplay department, etc...
You do realize these games still get a lot of updates and support right?That PC players still sit and play stuff like CS, League, and WOW says a lot. That's games from 2-3 generations ago.
That PC players still sit and play stuff like CS, League, and WOW says a lot. That's games from 2-3 generations ago. Userbases do not mean quality. Top budget games these days are either console exclusives
Total War is actually a good example, to make those games profitable they revamp the basics and re-skin it, while I like those games it's still very much a safe strategy to make a profit.
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True. Now comparing the reception Death Stranding had on the ps4 with the reception it is now having on PC does highlight a difference in mentality and expectations of the public in each platform. I also notice a lot of games that sell incredibly well despite not having a lot in the way of marketing like a console exclusives usually do.But it's certainly far and away the healthiest platform today. On that best-sellers list, you not only see the biggest AAA multiplatform games and even console exclusives but also niche titles which the consoles have been moving away from.
What's your point, all games do these days.You do realize these games still get a lot of updates and support right?
If the game's good and the developers are constantly delivering new content, why would people stop playing them?What's your point, all games do these days.
I did not say it was subpar quality, nor did I say that big-budget makes it better. In fact, I'm not saying PC gaming is poor, that's just what you think I'm saying. I play tons of PC games and love Anno, Total War and all the great PC exclusives. But if you look at the last generation of console games versus PC games, a large batch of the best games are not found on PC. Having to defend PC gaming by 20-year-old games is absurd. It's not about budget, it's about developers, and out of the top 10 studios, several of them aren't on PC.Really funny how PC games that have lasted trough generations are subpar quality, because having staying power somehow doesn't mean "good". But having high budget automatically makes console games better.
Have you looked at 99% of console exclusives? They are virtually the same. This described most console exclusives, and somehow you're using it to attack pc gaming because there;s one title that's doing it.
Some people are satisfied playing the same stuff over and over, and if you are playing the same thing for 20 years, cool, nothing wrong with that. But obviously if you enjoy games you want to try the best stuff out there, playing League with new updates or Euro Truck with a new map is not gonna do much for you.If the game's good and the developers are constantly delivering new content, why would people stop playing them?
Euro Truck Simulator 2 for example is always getting map expansions since its release on 2012. If people like the concept there is no reason to stop playing it. It has nothing to do with not having other games, some players just really enjoy those.
But if you look at the last generation of console games versus PC games, a large batch of the best games are not found on PC.
Having to defend PC gaming by 20-year-old games is absurd.
It's not about budget, it's about developers, and out of the top 10 studios, several of them aren't on PC.
CS isnt exclusive anymore because its multiplatform and that was also the golden age of gaming when PC has exclusives, give me some to compare with the list i gave above with what sony and nintendo are offeringWhat the fuck are you talking about.
CS is still on PC, and it's one of the biggest games out there.
League of legends is one of the biggest games in the world, PC exclusive.
It's not even comparable, these game have userbases that dwarf any console exclusive.
Not to mention exclusives like factorio, disco elysium (Which ironically there's been "port begging" for consoles), the entire total war series, all the vr games that are exclusive to pc, any strategy games (crusader kings, stellaris, etc), all the great indies that are actually pushing innovation in the gameplay department, etc...