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This is dumb. One of my buddies in the military with some security clearance isn't allowed to even have TikTok on his phone, I doubt Pentagon officials are allowed too.
Sure is a shame that both parties have ceded incresingly more and more power to the Executive Branch over the past 30 years.I don't think he has the legal authority to do that, not that the law has ever stopped him before.
I mean aren't most CEOs in America tied to a political party as well?Ma Huateng is CEO, Chairman, Co-Founder and 9.7% holder of Tencent. He is also a member of the Chinese Communist Party who has an active role at the highest level of Government.
I mean aren't most CEOs in America tied to a political party as well?
Couldn't agree more. Maybe not 30 years but certainly Dubya and Obama.Sure is a shame that both parties have ceded incresingly more and more power to the Executive Branch over the past 30 years.
America doesn't send people who speak up against the Government to reeducation gulags. China does.
You know, a slight difference.
If they wanted to sell then they could, so no, I would think being forced to sell when you don’t want to is a bad thing.Wouldn't this be kind of good for Tencent? They are going to get tons of money from selling their shares. Their ROI on Epic would be massive
AFAIK chips are mostly made in Taiwan, China is mostly an assembly location. the sophisticated stuff is made in Taiwan/S.Korea/Japan. hardly any essential component is made only in China. most likely effect is prices increase. but on the other hand more manufacturing jobs could be created.Valid point, but that's the problem. There needs to be manufacturing over here and elsewhere around the world. Maybe it's triple+++ the cost but we would pay it knowing we're not giving money to China. The more the OPs mentality is accepted the closer we can get to a more just reality.
I think the issue with selling stock generally is that you guarantee damaging that company by doing that. Your own investors also get concerned if there is an issue that required the sell off. There are probably clauses in contracts preventing that kind of action as wellIf they wanted to sell then they could, so no, I would think being forced to sell when you don’t want to is a bad thing.
its similar to when Donald Sterling was forced to sell the Clippers. Yes, he got $2 billion, but he didn’t want to sell.
Ma Huateng is CEO, Chairman, Co-Founder and 9.7% holder of Tencent. He is also a member of the Chinese Communist Party who has an active role at the highest level of Government.
If No company is allowed to do business with Ten Cent then how can they sell? And if the sale is allowed, does it diminish what they can sell for, since they *have* to sell?I think the issue with selling stock generally is that you guarantee damaging that company by doing that. Your own investors also get concerned if there is an issue that required the sell off. There are probably clauses in contracts preventing that kind of action as well
This is like permission to get your return on investment to be paid out in full
You know, I gotta ask: source?
Shocking to see how many american players are happy with this just because Trump said it. This is a massive blow at the games industry. Hundreds of american developers will be affected. Quality and quantity of games will be impacted worldwide...
Pretty much everyone that's part of the elite is basically required to join the CCP.His role in Tencent is on the main website:
Tencent - Tencent 腾讯
腾讯于1998年11月成立,是一家互联网公司,通过技术丰富互联网用户的生活,助力企业数字化升级。我们的使命是“用户为本 科技向善”。Founded in 1998, Tencent is an Internet-based platform company using technology to enrich the lives of Internet users and assist the digital upgrade of enterprises. Our mission is "Value for Users, Tech for Good".www.tencent.com
His stake is anywhere from 7-10% depending on the article (9.7 is the most commonly quoted). He recently sold some shares for a few....billion.
And Ma is part of Congress in China. Its not a secret.
Two things can be bad
Shocking to see how many american players are happy with this just because Trump said it. This is a massive blow at the games industry. Hundreds of american developers will be affected. Quality and quantity of games will be impacted worldwide...
Pretty much everyone that's part of the elite is basically required to join the CCP.
I'm not American but at least in my perception it makes no sense to hate on China considering how the the US government behaves.
Just as US can justify having something like Guantanamo Bay or putting illegal immigrant's kids on cages, the Chinese government (from their own perspective) can justify pretty much any human right violation they could commit.
Just as there are Americans that think that arresting people from the streets by using mercenaries is ok because it's to protect private property from protesters, there are Chinese that are OK with suppressing dissidence in lieu of order or nationwide economic success.
Killing threats to the establishment? Both countries... Unless you think Epstein really killed himself.
This is in no way intended to offend. Quite the opposite. The world should not have any society that behaves like that but regretfully it is the hay most nations are.
If we can only see injustice in others we will never be able to change things.
If the excuse is a security concern or retaliation for human right violations, Trump should make a real effort to resolve those very same issues at home first or at least at the same time.
Remember, Chinese didn't steal the manufacturing industry from the rest of the world, companies looking to make profit gave it away and us as consumers enabled them by buying cheap.
Humanity has never been even close to the concept of integrity and justice we would like to be. We should accept that we are not capable and shut up or actually do something different.
Personally, I don't think it's in us to be better.
Talk about grimdark. It’s almost as if no one is allowed to express an opinion about anything if their country did something wrong.
What about 'whataboutism'?
If everyone is guilty of something, is no one guilty of anything?www.merriam-webster.com
Talk about grimdark. It’s almost as if no one is allowed to express an opinion about anything if their country did something wrong.
What about 'whataboutism'?
If everyone is guilty of something, is no one guilty of anything?www.merriam-webster.com
Except this funding makes games. Exclusivity deals help fund games, making them exsist, or become better than without it.I have a feeling that games will see an increase in quality without tencent. Less microtransactions, loot boxes, and all that garbage. Plus Epic games might lose the funding that keeps their exclusivity deals going. That would be a huge win.
He is also a big time poes50% international, 50% South African from what I can tell. Its a big fixture in the South African economy. The ex CEO now Chairmen who did the Tencent deal is this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koos_Bekker
The money from microtransactions and loot boxes goes towards gaas games. Personally, I don’t have a problem with seeing them go. If banning business with tencent cuts down that type of stuff, even by a small margin, I’m all for it.Except this funding makes games. Exclusivity deals help fund games, making them exsist, or become better than without it.
So it is basically the oposite of what you said.
A politician could ban lootboxes, gatcha and any kind of gambling strategy. I would be fine with that, but banning deals with other countries for their economy wars... At least son't pretend it has to do with rights.
Two things can be bad
Yes they’re both bad.2 wrongs make a right?
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If the excuse is a security concern or retaliation for human right violations, Trump should make a real effort to resolve those very same issues at home first or at least at the same time.
Remember, Chinese didn't steal the manufacturing industry from the rest of the world, companies looking to make profit gave it away and us as consumers enabled them by buying cheap.
One targets groups of people because of their race.Yes they’re both bad.
But one targets groups of people because of their race.
The other targets individuals because of their actions.
Now guess which one was done by the CCP and which by the American govt.
I think Trump is a twat but I’m glad he’s being firm with China.
Trump is not responsible for what your Democratic candidate and party did. Sorry. And also the Democrats are the party of the KKK. Sorry.One targets groups of people because of their race.
Oh like Border Detention Camps and Guantanamo Bay? How about the overpopulated prison system and burgeoning private prison systems extracting forced labour from disproportionately black and brown prisoners?
Who said anything about Trump? Gee you guys are jumpyTrump is not responsible for what your Democratic candidate and party did. Sorry. And also the Democrats are the party of the KKK. Sorry.
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Yes they’re both bad.
But one targets groups of people because of their race.
The other targets individuals because of their actions.
Now guess which one was done by the CCP and which by the American govt. Yoboman ? Black_Stride ?
Trump is not responsible for what your Democratic candidate and party did. Sorry. And also the Democrats are the party of the KKK. Sorry.
Kamala Harris office sought to keep inmates locked up so that California could use them for cheap labor - Washington Examiner
Lawyers under the oversight of then-Attorney General of California Kamala Harris argued in 2014 against the release of nonviolent criminals because they wanted to keep them for cheap labor. “Extending 2-for-1 credits to all minimum custody inmates at this time would severely impact fire camp...www.washingtonexaminer.com
India also banned TikTok any many other chinese apps.How am I not surprised that NeoGAF has a boner for a man that bragged about passing a basic cognitive test and described 1000 Americans dying per day as “it is what it is”.
Trump could literally spit in an Americans mouth and they’d still lick his boots.
The only reason Trump wants to ban Tik Tok is because people used it to troll him into setting up a massive rally that barely anyone attended. He wants revenge and this is It.
TikTok Teens and K-Pop Stans Say They Sank Trump Rally (Published 2020)
Did a successful prank inflate attendance expectations for President Trump’s rally in Tulsa, Okla.?www.nytimes.com
He’s not doing it for you over privacy or data concerns. If he did then you’re own government wouldn’t be spying on you either.
Oh so you have no real stance on anything. You’re probably the type that criticizes everything without offering solutions. Good to know.Who said anything about Trump? Gee you guys are jumpy
And I hate Democrats about as much as Trump
Deflecting without answering. LOLDo you really want to get into this?
So still the US?
This is dumb. One of my buddies in the military with some security clearance isn't allowed to even have TikTok on his phone, I doubt Pentagon officials are allowed too.