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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Mahavastu

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Crazychipmunx said:
Could Xbox be using the 12 Tflop GPU to run multiple instances for cloud gaming. With recent quotes regarding the Zen 2 CPU being "server class", could microsoft have designed the xbox series x to be used as a server blade in addition to console. In this case, 12 tflops could possibly run 3 instances of a 1080p game, with similar settings to the series S, each virtual machine supplied with their own CPU.
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Yes, one SoC of the Series X can be running 4 Xbox one S sessions in parallel on the cloud servers. Of course you will have to add some more RAM
Please note that on Xbox One every game runs in a virtual maschine, which makes it easier to run several Xbox One S session on one single processor.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/18/...ct-xcloud-xbox-series-x-servers-hardware-2021

PS: my first post here, hopefully no one feels offended :messenger_grinning:
 
sircaw

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Been thinking recently how blessed this forum section is, with our beloved Mod of War Mod of War . We could have cheapened out and got EviLore EviLore or even worse hit rock bottom with Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights .

But luckily for us, we got the Numero uno, the pie in sky.

He looks after us, stops us from fighting, warns us, BANS US, (the fucker.)
but after all, is said and done he is our little Gem. our little princess, our Magic pony.

From everyone on this forum section, xbox and PlayStation people, Liverpool +switch scum excluded, here is a song for you.

you might not look like Susanna Hoffs but our heart still beats hard for you.

You Mod of War Mod of War are our Eternal Flame

 
Handy Fake

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sircaw said:
Been thinking recently how blessed this forum section is, with our beloved Mod of War Mod of War . We could have cheapened out and got EviLore EviLore or even worse hit rock bottom with Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights .

But luckily for us, we got the Numero uno, the pie in sky.

He looks after us, stops us from fighting, warns us, BANS US, (the fucker.)
but after all, is said and done he is our little Gem. our little princess, our Magic pony.

From everyone on this forum section, xbox and PlayStation people, Liverpool +switch scum excluded, here is a song for you.

you might not look like Susanna Hoffs but our heart still beats hard for you.

You Mod of War Mod of War are our Eternal Flame

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God I love Susanna Hoffs,
She did a lockdown video with Billie Joe Armstrong from Green Day and she's still as stunning as ever.

 
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roops67

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MasterCornholio said:
Would love to own one in 50 A.E but the ammo is expensive as hell.

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Ooh not sure that's a good idea Beavis. No offence but a firearm in the hands of a anti-social loner is a recipe for disaster as history has shown ... but if it's for use on Flat-Earthers, Young-Earthers, and Xbox fanatics then you're doing a service to society , the evolution tree is in dire need of some pruning (y)
 
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DaGwaphics

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Nickolaidas said:
I ask you this question: Do you think that Cerny would still say that TF and CU counts don't tell the whole story if the XSX had less TFs and CUs than the PS5?

He wouldn't. There's no way in hell that Cerny would downplay the importance of CUs and TFs if they were one more bullet point that the PS5 could one-up the XSX with. So I think it's safe to say that on the CU/TF subject, he was damage controlling.

Don't get me wrong, I think the PS5 will blow the XSX out of the water, but him handwaving TFs and CUs as a true measure of power was damage control.

And I don't care if he's an engineer and not a PR person. He was basically 'selling / pitching' the PS5 to developers with that speech and it makes sense to speak highly of and praise the things that the PS5 surpasses the XSX (SSD and sound), while downplaying the things the PS5 was worse than the XSX (TF and CU count).

If you don't think there's a pattern here, I don't know what to tell you.

Cerny believes in his product, and I do so as well, but he needs to present the PS5 to people who are not persuaded as well as us. It is THOSE people, people who think that CU and TF count is everything that Cerny needs to convince them that 'hey, you know what? CU and TF count ISN'T everything' after all.
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There's no question that a little PR was included in Sony's talk. That doesn't even subtract from the larger points that Cerny was making.

Both companies know that most of their consumers don't fully understand the tech. That's why they address issues they think could be problematic. In Sony's case having the same CU count as previous gen (because they know many don't know how clock plays into things) and having less than the competition. MS did the same type of thing in their presentation, mentioning things that on the surface seem unnecessary (locked clocks, only one fan, etc.), but were very intentional.
 
sircaw

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AeneaGames said:
Funny how you made a spelling mistake telling us you never make mistakes!

Fishy made of lies, fishy best for sushi, yum
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Listen up hippo hips, English is my second language, do you speak lateral line, i did not think so.

Now, i remember as a kid, watching Top cat. You live in a god damn dustbin. Get your house in order before you come after the little innocent guy.

 
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Bonsaibäumchen

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sircaw said:
Been thinking recently how blessed this forum section is, with our beloved Mod of War Mod of War . We could have cheapened out and got EviLore EviLore or even worse hit rock bottom with Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights .

But luckily for us, we got the Numero uno, the pie in sky.

He looks after us, stops us from fighting, warns us, BANS US, (the fucker.)
but after all, is said and done he is our little Gem. our little princess, our Magic pony.

From everyone on this forum section, xbox and PlayStation people, Liverpool +switch scum excluded, here is a song for you.

you might not look like Susanna Hoffs but our heart still beats hard for you.

You Mod of War Mod of War are our Eternal Flame

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CrysisFreak

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sircaw said:
Been thinking recently how blessed this forum section is, with our beloved Mod of War Mod of War . We could have cheapened out and got EviLore EviLore or even worse hit rock bottom with Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights .

But luckily for us, we got the Numero uno, the pie in sky.

He looks after us, stops us from fighting, warns us, BANS US, (the fucker.)
but after all, is said and done he is our little Gem. our little princess, our Magic pony.

From everyone on this forum section, xbox and PlayStation people, Liverpool +switch scum excluded, here is a song for you.

you might not look like Susanna Hoffs but our heart still beats hard for you.

You Mod of War Mod of War are our Eternal Flame

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Gayyy!
:)
 
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Moridianae

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The thing about the Assassin's Creed CE is while it is true we've seen a far greater adoption to digital year over year, particularly this year with the pandemic, I don't know the market is completely ready for it.

It is enough for both consoles to have a digital option, but not to go entirely digital, which is why I question that decision.

Broadband is still not as widespread as it needs to be, an issue that has seen itself exacerbated with the advent of online schooling.

I *believe* under the CARES Act I read recently, many companies such as Spectrum received(I think) a loan based on the contingent they expand their capabilities into underserviced areas, but they must have progress and plans done by the end of the year or they lose that money granted.


Also, many people(myself included) still enjoy our physical media. As many of us I'm sure can attest, there is nothing quite like the crinkling of a wrapper and the scent of a newly opened game to us gamers.
 
hemo memo

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FeiRR said:
How is Steam different? It's a "subscription service" as it's stated in their EULA.
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I think we are talking about two different things. I’m talking about digital only and buying digital games from Xbox and PS store. Different than steam because of policies for refunds and returns etc.
 
Wraith Phantom

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sircaw

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Mahavastu said:
Yes, one SoC of the Series X can be running 4 Xbox one S sessions in parallel on the cloud servers. Of course you will have to add some more RAM
Please note that on Xbox One every game runs in a virtual maschine, which makes it easier to run several Xbox One S session on one single processor.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/18/...ct-xcloud-xbox-series-x-servers-hardware-2021

PS: my first post here, hopefully no one feels offended :messenger_grinning:
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Reported for Trolling.
Welcome
 
jimbojim

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TJC said:
The design of the SSD comes in 825gb or they could of done 1.65GB.. the design doesn't allow for them to just add the 150gb difference. They put alot of money into this custom SSD.
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Sure, custom I/O solution is one thing, but customization doesn't determine price. MS went with bigger and faster, but less lanes and of course, more NAND modules, Sony went with more lanes, but slower ones and less NAND modules. Sony use 12 slow nand chips across 12 chanells/lanes to have higher speed. I think MS used standard nand chips which are faster which cost more i think. Can't remember how many channels XSX SSD has. Maybe 4?
 
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FeiRR

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Mahavastu said:
Yes, one SoC of the Series X can be running 4 Xbox one S sessions in parallel on the cloud servers. Of course you will have to add some more RAM
Please note that on Xbox One every game runs in a virtual maschine, which makes it easier to run several Xbox One S session on one single processor.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/18/...ct-xcloud-xbox-series-x-servers-hardware-2021

PS: my first post here, hopefully no one feels offended :messenger_grinning:
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It's a brilliant plan. Instead of selling one XSX and one GP sub, they can use the same SKU to get 4 subs running at the same time. 400% profit increase!

Welcome. Watch out for the finflapper. He's as mad as a box of frogs
 
sircaw

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Mahavastu said:
Yes, one SoC of the Series X can be running 4 Xbox one S sessions in parallel on the cloud servers. Of course you will have to add some more RAM
Please note that on Xbox One every game runs in a virtual maschine, which makes it easier to run several Xbox One S session on one single processor.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/18/...ct-xcloud-xbox-series-x-servers-hardware-2021

PS: my first post here, hopefully no one feels offended :messenger_grinning:
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Since you are new around here, i should show you the ropes.

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JonnyMP3

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sircaw said:
Since you are new around here, i should show you the ropes.

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geordiemp geordiemp , not very technical, likes to troll threads, keeps ducking intellectual debates with me.
Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem favorite Band aqua, avoid, enough said.
DaGwaphics DaGwaphics Atari user, avoid
AeneaGames AeneaGames astroid crusher, avoid or shoot on sight.
Gamernyc78 Gamernyc78 likes his women to look like dump trucks, avoid
JonnyMP3 JonnyMP3 plague carrier atm, avoid but he does not have long to go.

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TJC

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jimbojim said:
Sure, custom I/O solution is one thing, but customization doesn't determine price. MS went with bigger and faster, but less lanes and of course, more NAND modules, Sony went with more lanes, but slower ones and less NAND modules. Sony use 12 slow nand chips across 12 chanells/lanes to have higher speed. I think MS used standard nand chips which are faster which cost more i think. Can't remember how many channels XSX SSD has. Maybe 4?
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Not sure, Sony have basically removed all bottlenecks that the SSD might have. Watch NX gamer (I prefer his style) or someone like DF, the way I see it is MS don't have anything faster than Sonys SSD tech. It's custom and PCs will need around 7GBPs to brute force the difference that the custom design gives the PS5, hence why mark cerny said Sony will have to approve any SSD that can be used in the PS5.
 
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Mahavastu

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FeiRR said:
It's a brilliant plan. Instead of selling one XSX and one GP sub, they can use the same SKU to get 4 subs running at the same time. 400% profit increase!

Welcome. Watch out for the finflapper. He's as mad as a box of frogs
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It is even better:
Microsoft can do 4 Project XCLoud sessions in XBox One S quality per SeriesX chip, and I saw a video in which they put 4 motherboards in one single 19" case (standard size for servers). That mean one of these cases can serve 16 people in parallel, and there are several of these cases in one rack.
And we talk about Project XCloud, that means Game Pass Ultimate at least

It would be interesting if Sony has something similar for PS-Now to keep their solution competitive. A few days ago someone posted here a PDF from a 2019 Sony investor talk in which they said they want to improve quality...
 
Gamernyc78

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sircaw said:
Since you are new around here, i should show you the ropes.

People to avoid
geordiemp geordiemp , not very technical, likes to troll threads, keeps ducking intellectual debates with me.
Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem favorite Band aqua, avoid, enough said.
DaGwaphics DaGwaphics Atari user, avoid
AeneaGames AeneaGames astroid crusher, avoid or shoot on sight.
Gamernyc78 Gamernyc78 likes his women to look like dump trucks, avoid
JonnyMP3 JonnyMP3 plague carrier atm, avoid but he does not have long to go.

Helpful, technical Savant types, sex gods, examples of pure adonis type bodies
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You forgot to put your gay and come on to ppl passive aggressively. I think he should know that 😂😂😂😂
 
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