pasterpl
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if you haven’t noticed I was replying to user that said that xbsex is dead, yes, I replied with subjective arguments to someone else’s fortunetelling
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if you haven’t noticed I was replying to user that said that xbsex is dead, yes, I replied with subjective arguments to someone else’s fortunetelling
keram
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hemo memo
Gold Member
Mismanagement to an unbelievable degree. It’s like both companies are run by children. Get your act together it’s not the fucking apocalypse.
SaucyJack
Member
Not surprising. They were never going to make significant announcements in evening Japan time zone.
Cyborg
Member
Everything will be shown before that. No new Next Gen stuff.......
SaucyJack
Member
Market cap is circa £600 million.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
Could be some proper game playing going on now. Another interpretation of that Tweet could be that at TGS (not until the end of the month) they'll be no new news which can be the truth at that time.
Its not to say there can't be new news between now and then, just not any new news in addition to whatever may come between now and then!
JonTheGod
Neo Member
Because most Xbox owners are American and therefore more prone to shooting each other and/or defending their right to do so.
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Snowdonhoffen
Member
So September 17 is already taken by another Sony event. September 9 has to be the date we've been looking for... hopefully.
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Btw. they showed Halo Infinite
It wasn't a next gen game. They did show Medium, which looks definitely next gen!
danielJackson
Banned
While that sounds like a joke, it could be partly true. ( the part about most xbox gamers are US folks)
On US xbox vs playstation war is kind of balanced, which shows up on forums/internet when US xbox gamers talk about next gen and they are clueless how brutally more popular playstation is outside of US, like it is not even a competition between them. So in their perspective anything minor can turn the scale and make xbox "winner", while from outside perspective it is just illogical as playstation would have to do _everything_ wrong and they would still have a chance to "win".
That alone have given me the image of typical xbox fan being kind of aggressive and not too informed about global situation, when looking all these threads I rarely have seen PS-fanboys being so stubborn/angry/mean to others or bashing other products so aggressively.
And we all (at least outsiders) know how different US culture is vs. hundreds of other cultures, mainly their patriotism, violence, gun culture, lack of caring about poor people (there are no homeless people in many countries as everyone gets an apartment rent paid if they want to).
But difficult to say how xbox gamers are outside of US, as I dont know anyone whom is "xbox gamer", that is how popular that brand is here.
Most aggressive gamers I know are NHL / FIFA gamers + COD etc shooters. Those idiots scream in the middle of the night when they lose, throw their controllers into a wall, rape their controller in rage instead of using it normally (gently but precise).
Maybe they should study them.
But if this study is made from US xbox vs US playstation gamers, then it is more interesting thing as cultural variables are removed from the equation
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Fordino
Member
Yeah, when I read the CX has a lower bandwidth I was even happier with my C9 purchase, but if the PS5 follows the SeriesX route then it doesn’t matter.
Lunatic_Gamer
Gold Member
Dead by Daylight Is Going Next-Gen Later This Year, Will Run at 4K@60
Mathieu Côté, Game Director of Dead by Daylight, said:
wccftech.com
Mathieu Côté, Game Director of Dead by Daylight, said:
Dead by Daylight Is Going Next-Gen Later This Year, Will Run at 4K@60
Behaviour Interactive announced that its asymmetrical multiplayer horror game will be released later this year for PS5 and Xbox Series X.
wccftech.com
FunkMiller
Gold Member
This is probably a lot more accurate that people believe. Angriest country on Earth? Obviously the US!
Jaxx_377
Neo Member
So Sony can tell us about an event showcasing a product nobody wants 15 days from now, but they can't tell us about news of an event concerning a product that millions of people want supposedly 7 days from now. Im starting to think they hate us.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
I see this chestnut is being rolled out again to mitigate XBox’s problems...
Once and for all, for everyone, including those in the cheap seats:
Microsoft is not some giant monolithic company that just sloshes money around willy nilly between its departments. Each department must remain successful, because if they aren’t, the shareholders will have something to say about it.
XBox isn’t safe just because lots of people buy PC software. If XBox isn’t profitable, the shareholders will not be happy. Goodbye XBox.
If you genuinely think major corporations don’t dissolve unsuccessful departments or satellite operations, then you have no idea how the business world functions.
TL dR: Microsoft being successful doesn’t mean XBox is always going to be safe. If it isn’t a success, it goes.
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TherapistGaymer
Banned
I was just kidding a bit, I know exactly what you mean. I actually posted this somewhere else. I don't think he cares. His job security must be very reliable.
TJC
Member
Lol playsta
Lol playstation division does WTF it wants. Seriously I'm hoping we hear something decent today, I'm fed up of hearing about dual sense and SSD now.
CrysisFreak
Banned
Snowdonhoffen
Member
Exactly, Microsoft has a lot more money than Sony, and that's a fact but it seems some people gets mad if Sony earns and maybe even invests more money on PlayStation than Microsoft does on Xbox.
xacto
Member
Didn't you hear? They're not called "transitions", they're short loading screens.
jimbojim
Banned
Sorry. But i think is damn funny to see what other camp still trying after all these years.
sircaw
Banned
Study your enemy, learn his moves, never let your guard down.
Thanks, Mr. Miyagi, your the best.
DrDamn
Member
The counting in the original video is correct, odd format to use in this instance, but
Bo_Hazem
I think you do actually need to fess up and admit you were wrong on that part. It's isn't set to deceive, it's just an odd format to use.On the flip side I disagree with the overall assessment
TheGreatWhiteShark
is trying to make - I'm not even clear what their point is to be fair. When the transition actually starts loading in the new world, when it's done, what is added for transitional effect is simply not clear enough to be making any sort of definitive judgement on the performance of the underlying architecture. The whole thing seems to have been a massively pointless argument about stuff we have no where near the full information to analyse.
Hawking Radiation
Member
So people still feel the need to post tweets from the likes of Roberto Serrano in this forum. Adding to my ignore list.
sircaw
Banned
Study Says Xbox Players Are More Aggressive Than PlayStation Gamers
A new study conducted by professional psychologists finds some interesting results about which gamers are the most aggressive.
redirect.viglink.com
Hopefully, they will do a Study soon to see which group spreads the most fud about the consoles.
I am not sure who that would be, Anyone like to guess.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yeah the whole debate was pointless wa can all agree tha the game take around 2 secs to load a whole new world while still being playable.The counting in the original video is correct, odd format to use in this instance, but
On the flip side I disagree with the overall assessment
It's way better than the minute it take post death in bloodborne for example or to load anything in state of decay 2.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yeah can I answer in front of the whole classroom ?Study Says Xbox Players Are More Aggressive Than PlayStation Gamers
A new study conducted by professional psychologists finds some interesting results about which gamers are the most aggressive.
Hopefully, they will do a Study soon to see which group spreads the most fud about the consoles.
I am not sure who that would be, Anyone like to guess.
sircaw
Banned
The counting in the original video is correct, odd format to use in this instance, but
On the flip side I disagree with the overall assessment
At the end of the day its just more bullshit, it's another attempt to try to make something seem worse than it is.
This kinda shit needs to stop.
kyliethicc
Member
I wonder if AMD asked Sony & Microsoft to wait to announce PS5 & XSX prices until after Nvidia RTX 3000 prices were shown?
AMD might have wanted all RDNA2 prices to remain unknown to put pressure on Nvidia.
If the consoles announced low prices in June, that would have indicated how low/high AMD was going to price their RX 6000 GPUs.
AMD might have wanted all RDNA2 prices to remain unknown to put pressure on Nvidia.
If the consoles announced low prices in June, that would have indicated how low/high AMD was going to price their RX 6000 GPUs.
3liteDragon
Member
Xbox marketing lead for UK regarding price announcements for the new consoles:
Snowdonhoffen
Member
SaucyJack
Member
The counting in the original video is correct, odd format to use in this instance, but
On the flip side I disagree with the overall assessment
Hear hear.
It was an entirely pointless exercise in shitting up the last couple of days of this thread. Arguing about nothing, proving nothing.
The only thing that is clear is that the whole transition, end to end, is sub-2 seconds, which is pretty fucking awesome. It’s fairly academic how much of that 2 seconds is the load, and it really doesn’t matter if people call it a “loading screen”, call it an animation or call it Craig.
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sircaw
Banned
I think Microsoft are desperate for sonys price.
It's like the tflop thing, they know the public likes numbers
sony has the games for launch, Microsoft doesn't.
If Microsoft concedes on the price too, that is a double blow.
they need to have something big to wave at the consumer.
What is Microsofts angle if Sony beats them on price and has the best games.
We have the world's most powerful console, we have a carbon-neutral console. buy our console to play your old games. Our exclusives are 2-3 years out. Our load times are 6 seconds longer that Sony's. We have an extra blade of grass at 800% zoom in mode.
they lose the price war, they are fucked.
judging by that 75% poll to sony They might already be fucked
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OrionNebula
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I mean, why would there be? It’s not like the xsx is supposed to be coming out in less than 80 days after all...
mejin
Member
THE:MILKMAN
Member
What annoys me is Microsoft know damn well the absolute bottom line Sony could possibly do is $399 for the disc version with a decent loss. So why not go first at that price seeing as they are already prepared for it? All Sony can do then is match it and Microsoft get the satisfaction of having the balls to go first.
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OrionNebula
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THE:MILKMAN
Member
It has definitely been a cruel summer that's for sure....
sircaw
Banned
I think somewhere it's about loses. I really don't know how profitable Microsoft is with there gaming division. Is game pass making a loss, is it making them money? Is it making as much as they want it to make.
They have had some big loses of late, mixer comes to mind. How much did they have to pay those streamers of etc.
Microsoft might have billions but shareholders hate to see losses. Their console might cost a lot more to make than sony's i don't know. If they are already losing the console war, that they are not apparently in, it's not a good look bleeding out money too, in a war you can not win.
All right, it’s time to have this shit stuck in your head all day (also : *you’re)(Stick it where the sun don't Shine)
Been watching Kobra Kai on netflix it's awesome.
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lepermessiah
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Wait. Wait... Console...console racism?
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MastaKiiLA
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sircaw
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
Yup. XBox division simply cannot just bung out the Series X at a big loss per console - not like Sony did with the Ps3. The XBox One was, by all relevant metrics, a failure. They don't have the finances or the standing within the larger Microsoft family to lose a ton of cash on this console as well.
That's why they haven't released a price for it yet. They know it's going to be expensive, but my guess is they're hoping the Ps5 will be equally, or more expensive. Not so sure they're right about that.
It's pretty damned obvious BOTH consoles are going to be bloody pricey though. If the Ps5 was 399 again, they'd be singing it from the rooftops by now, as would XBox. I think Sony are waiting for an event when they can announce new games to soften the blow a bit. I have no idea whether XBox has the same intention, or whether they're just terrified of the market response to an expensive console with no exclusive games anyone wants to play.
zaitsu
Banned
Thats true
jimbojim
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