iconmaster
Banned
Abstaining. Honestly I’m just kind of done with game systems that require me to sit at a TV.
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Abstaining. Honestly I’m just kind of done with game systems that require me to sit at a TV.
Newly Vacant
Member
Eh, I finished it on Game Pass, and was hoping to give it a second try. I had a fun enough time. My main complaint is with the port, not the game itself.
Mr Hyde
Member
Pre-ordering a PS5 as soon as Sony lets me. It's BC with PS4 so gonna check out if the games take advantage of the new tech. It will at least run games in Pro mode. My DS4 is also running on fumes, so need an upgrade there. If Demon's Souls is not launching day 1 I'm thinking about picking up Cyberpunk instead. But CDPR announced Witcher 3 4K/60 so probably gonna dive in there.
I feel PS5 will be my last console. It seems future proofed with beefy specs and no load times, 4K and the whole she bang and after that gaming will probably move over to streaming or digital only, which I don't care about.
If Nintendo continues with the Switch concept I'll pick up a Switch 2, no doubt. Nintendo has been rapidly improving in my eyes and I don't want to be without their IPs. Their games are second to none when it comes to gameplay and pure entertainment. But I really hope they don't stray from the Switch formula. It's too good to abandon. I hope they settle down and stick with it in the future.
I feel PS5 will be my last console. It seems future proofed with beefy specs and no load times, 4K and the whole she bang and after that gaming will probably move over to streaming or digital only, which I don't care about.
If Nintendo continues with the Switch concept I'll pick up a Switch 2, no doubt. Nintendo has been rapidly improving in my eyes and I don't want to be without their IPs. Their games are second to none when it comes to gameplay and pure entertainment. But I really hope they don't stray from the Switch formula. It's too good to abandon. I hope they settle down and stick with it in the future.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
I have gaming PCs and a Switch. I need nothing else.
TKOFromTokyo
Member
I think that I’ll wait on picking up one of the new consoles. I don’t even have a 4K tv yet. I was planning on getting one this winter, but I have been underwhelmed by the tv and console offerings. I decided to buy a bunch of equipment for a home gym instead.
Eevee86
Member
Certainly not at launch.
-Arcadia-
Banned
You can't just go buying stuff that sounds like me. It's weird.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Evangelion Unit-01
Master Chief
Holding off for now. I have a PS4 Pro and a One X. Plan to build a new PC once AMD announces their new chips.
Was going to pick up the new consoles as well but frankly there doesn't seem to be much of a reason to upgrade right now. Nothing big on Sony's side right now. Halo was a big factor on the Xbox side for me and 343's Halo games continue to be incredibly disappointing.
Assuming Sony follows through on PC plans I'll likely end up playing first party titles for both on PC anyways.
Lionel Richie
Member
With those games? Why?
Evangelion Unit-01
Master Chief
New Consoles? No Drake.
Switch Pro to play emulated Mario 64 at 1440p? Yes Drake.
Jokes aside-I'll be building a new PC and getting the new Switch. Holding out on the new consoles for a while.
Switch Pro to play emulated Mario 64 at 1440p? Yes Drake.
Jokes aside-I'll be building a new PC and getting the new Switch. Holding out on the new consoles for a while.
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Lionel Richie
Member
Literally no one said that, don't get stupid in this thread. I'm just saying, you know software is weak as fuck when all you see out of early adopters is esoteric burusera shit like "I love the smell of new hardware". Rule of thumb guys, whenever you bring up smell as a quality you no longer have a hobby, you have a perversion.
-Arcadia-
Banned
The games situation is pretty poor. This is the most low-key platform launch I've ever seen, so far. Most third parties don't really seem to be going out of their way to provide anything good for launch... or really even treat the brand new systems as anything but One X-style upgrades.
Compare that to when new systems would upend everything.
Compare that to when new systems would upend everything.
Gormless Noodle
Member
But isn't that the thing though? There's no natural evolution for every dev to take advantage of. I think actually even less so than from PS3 to 4 and that quite frankly was already showcasing that deminishing returns are a very real thing.
DESTROYA
Member
Nah..... not day one or anything. There is nothing that I see compelling enough to buy one yet.
But then again I’m thinking of buying one of each to flip for the new rumored Switch.
You ?
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
The devs I've talked to haven't been terribly enthused about the new systems. It's not new hardware, it's just more hardware.
UsualNoise
Member
Although I'm a huge Nintendo fan and the Switch is my only console, I cancelled my preorder for 3D All-Stars. My reasons were:
1) I can't reward Nintendo for announcing a game with limited-time availability.
2) It doesn't have Mario Galaxy 2
3) I want to wait until after release to see if Walmart drops it to $50 so I can save a few bucks (as a cheap gamer)
I have absolutely no doubt I'll own it soon-ish, but I after rationally evaluating the purchase I'm holding off for now. Oh yeah, and I can still play all those games on my Wii U.
1) I can't reward Nintendo for announcing a game with limited-time availability.
2) It doesn't have Mario Galaxy 2
3) I want to wait until after release to see if Walmart drops it to $50 so I can save a few bucks (as a cheap gamer)
I have absolutely no doubt I'll own it soon-ish, but I after rationally evaluating the purchase I'm holding off for now. Oh yeah, and I can still play all those games on my Wii U.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Sounds like you're just going to buy the game at $60 anyway and are just trying to convince yourself otherwise. Which is fine, but we both know how this ends.
Evangelion Unit-01
Master Chief
No, I'm describing what I will be doing. Was probably too far removed from my previous posts to be clear-sorry if it came across differently.
I agree. I am not upgrading my PS4 or Xbox this year. Will be building a new PC and getting the Switch Pro should that pan out.
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Newly Vacant
Member
Nintendo fans are defensive. We suffer on this forum.
UsualNoise
Member
Well, not necessarily. If Walmart has it for $50 I'll get it there. But yes, if it hasn't dropped by February or so I'll get it at full price (or with my Target 5% off). Like I said, I'm cheap.
Evangelion Unit-01
Master Chief
I am excited about the updates to current gen titles like Destiny 2 and Rainbow Six-that is a huge plus as we move to a more PC-like world of backwards compatibility. As someone who enjoys FPS titles this and cross-play will really help keep populations healthy for a while to come.
Conversely, like you said, nobody has shown anything truly "next gen" yet. I am not particularly excited about any announced first party titles either. Halo used to be tied with Zelda as my favorite franchise, but I can't stand what happened to that series after Reach. I don't recognize it anymore. Everwild and Avowed look interesting but are a ways away. Horizon doesn't exactly excite either. I know people loved the first one but frankly I did not enjoy it enough to finish it.
StormCell
Member
I plan to abstain until there is a must-have, although I must admit that I would really like to play Minecraft with raytracing. And I'm not sure that will be available to PS5.
-Arcadia-
Banned
As underwhelming as it is in many cases right now, I don’t believe in diminishing returns. There’s definitely a ‘something’ there. It just might as well not exist in this ‘enhanced port’ stage. (Sigh) Hopefully we get to developers really taking advantage sometime relatively soon.
Yeah, I am at least happy about being able to play Fortnite in 4K/Max Settings.
I did like the visuals of the Sony first party games. But as you point out, am I even a big fan of how they play? Horizon, for example, got its teeth knocked in by BotW when they released on the same week, and that’s somehow a massive understatement.
There’s a lot of trying to convince myself to buy these new systems, and not a whole lot of concrete reasons to do so. Sometimes I have to ask myself, if I didn’t irrationally love everything about this hobby, would I rationally buy these systems?
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Shaqazooloo
Member
Didn't want to write a huge ass response but unfortunately we have this. If I seem rude or anything in this post it's only because i'm pissed I was doing this instead of playing Octopath.
As for how good I think each title is:
Rainbow Run is unlocked by buying 50 minigames from Woody, the reward you get from the minigame coaster is being able to purchase item minigames on the normal path while the hard path allows you to buy Battle minigames. Last time I was going off memory, but this time I searched it:
www.mariowiki.com
www.mariowiki.com
Like any loop in Mario Party it's easy to get stuck in one, Mystery Land has the added bonus of being difficult to stay in the loop. Players will teleport all over the place, sometimes back-to-back, most of Mystery Land is players praying to RNGJesus that they either land or don't land on a happening space.
All the teleport shenanigans also result in the last 5 turns being extremely monotonous, although this is more of a general MP2 problem rather then a just Mystery Land one since most boards in the game have some type of teleport that sends you to a common space or back to start. What i'm referring to is duels in this game, for most of the maps during the last 5 turns you get several duels, all the same minigame (since each board only has one) brought about by spaces that sends players either back to start or a common space, last 5 turns in MP2 usually tend to drag on because of stuff like that.
The warp block is unreliable to depend on for any type of plan or strategy, the game decides who you warp with and you have no input, you could just as easily screw yourself over with it then help and theirs not much point in having one in the first place, since you can only carry one item and can't pick up another one until you use it, that spot is better used for something more reliable.
Theirs a circle of hell here which also would not be bad if weren't for the fact that a star space location is in there. Only way to get in is to land on the three happening spaces at the bottom and if you over shoot you have to loop around. Making a star location require landing on a certain space is usually a recipe for disaster.
The item minigame for this board is a slot machine and the only way you can get the item you want is to match up all the slots, from personal experience and lots of video's on youtube people usually never get items from it or just opt to pause buffer to avoid doing it legit.
This is off the top of my head, I could probably think of more but I don't want to spend too much time on this.
The only good Bowser map in the series is Bowser's Pinball Machine in Mario Party DS.
Well, i'm not really fond of the map either and i'm of the opinion that it is more suited for Partner Party instead of Mario Party, however i'm willing to make the case for it.
Well, looking back at past Mario Party's -MP7 and 8 specifically- some of the boards their have a space count in the low 40, Pagoda Peak (MP7) and Shy Guy's Perplexed Express (MP8) are notable because they resemble a similar layout to KTT in Super Mario Party. They all have a fairly linear path with a clear end point, naturally these boards have a lower space count because of it's linearity.
Pagoda Peak has 42 spaces, you'd only need a little more then 4 perfect rolls to get to the top and their are many items to help with that where as in KTT theirs only a regular dash mushroom available (no golden mushrooms). I mean, I can make the same argument your making.
You reaaaallly care about these bonus stars huh? I can get being disappointed by it but this is a bit much. Also, 10 and 15 turn games only have 2 bonus stars..
Literally your argument against SMP being less competitive than any other Mario Party is bonus stars, you go on and on telling yourself that SMP is somehow less competitive to an average Mario Party if you want, but the games design doesn't support that narrative.
Considering how much you like MP5 it's a weird complaint as well.
Also, theirs a reason why I specifically said he functions the same as MP1 Boo, because he was free in that game as well.
Does everything you say here also apply to chain chomp in MP5 and what are your thoughts on that?
I suppose we can both agree that ever since the N64 games the maps in MP have shrank in size somewhat.
Also, battle games in SMP are rumble games, the coins are wagered the same, it's slightly different and honestly not really exciting but there ya go.
Like I said at the end of my last post, a lot of this comes off as old game bias, refusing to keep an open mind to a game that's different to what old entries did. Really seems like you go in with a negative mindset from the beginning and use it to justify declaring SMP the worst Mario Party in the series.
Honestly dude you're missing out if you don't at least try Partner Party. The minigames are slightly more limited (no 1v3s) but free movement is good, and hey if you're disappointed by the space count of KTT in Mario Party mode you'll be glad to know it has 200 spaces in Partner Party.
Play Mario Party DS and/or Star Rush, but mostly DS. Really good portable entries.
Eh, in terms of favorites for me it goes:Shaqazooloo alright Mr. Shaq, let the Great Mario Party Discussion ensue. I may have to create a Mario Party OT for the series but it would likely only be us two and few others in there anyway lol. A lot of criticisms for Super Mario Party so brace yourself bro. It's all in good fun though. I just wish the games would be taken more seriously by the developers, and that they would create the ultimate Mario Party game that caters to oldschool fans of the early installments by simultaneously carrying on tradition and by being innovative. Btw, curious to see your MP tier list if you don't mind sharing
MP6
MPDS
MP1
MP9
MP3
SMP
MP4
MP:Star Rush
MP7
MP2
MP5
MP8
MP10
MP:Island Tour
MPDS
MP1
MP9
MP3
SMP
MP4
MP:Star Rush
MP7
MP2
MP5
MP8
MP10
MP:Island Tour
MP6
MPDS
MP3
MP4
SMP
MP2
MP7
MP5
MP8
MP:Star Rush
MP1
MP9
MP10
MP:Island Tour
MPDS
MP3
MP4
SMP
MP2
MP7
MP5
MP8
MP:Star Rush
MP1
MP9
MP10
MP:Island Tour
I don't really have much to say to this but I will correct you on something here.
Rainbow Run is unlocked by buying 50 minigames from Woody, the reward you get from the minigame coaster is being able to purchase item minigames on the normal path while the hard path allows you to buy Battle minigames. Last time I was going off memory, but this time I searched it:
Mini-Game Coaster
The Mini-Game Coaster is a feature in the Mini-Game Land of Mario Party 2. Although the setting is different with some additional features, the concept is identical to Mini-Game Island from Mario Party. To unlock the Mini-Game Coaster, the player...
Rainbow Run (minigame)
Rainbow Run is an unlockable 1-vs-3 minigame found in Mario Party 2. To get this minigame, the player must buy 50 minigames from Woody. Although it has a different setting, this minigame is identical in concept to Tightrope Treachery from the first...
I was hoping to avoid getting into a discussion on maps like this, but fine.
Like any loop in Mario Party it's easy to get stuck in one, Mystery Land has the added bonus of being difficult to stay in the loop. Players will teleport all over the place, sometimes back-to-back, most of Mystery Land is players praying to RNGJesus that they either land or don't land on a happening space.
All the teleport shenanigans also result in the last 5 turns being extremely monotonous, although this is more of a general MP2 problem rather then a just Mystery Land one since most boards in the game have some type of teleport that sends you to a common space or back to start. What i'm referring to is duels in this game, for most of the maps during the last 5 turns you get several duels, all the same minigame (since each board only has one) brought about by spaces that sends players either back to start or a common space, last 5 turns in MP2 usually tend to drag on because of stuff like that.
The warp block is unreliable to depend on for any type of plan or strategy, the game decides who you warp with and you have no input, you could just as easily screw yourself over with it then help and theirs not much point in having one in the first place, since you can only carry one item and can't pick up another one until you use it, that spot is better used for something more reliable.
One of the stars is the happening star, so no. Also, coin star is highest amount of coins held at anytime which can basically be decided by a battle minigame.
Bowser Land has a shop where you are forced to buy the item they give you for a slightly higher price, which wouldn't be bad if it weren't for the game only allowing one item to be held at a time, you either use or are forced to hold on to it.
Theirs a circle of hell here which also would not be bad if weren't for the fact that a star space location is in there. Only way to get in is to land on the three happening spaces at the bottom and if you over shoot you have to loop around. Making a star location require landing on a certain space is usually a recipe for disaster.
The item minigame for this board is a slot machine and the only way you can get the item you want is to match up all the slots, from personal experience and lots of video's on youtube people usually never get items from it or just opt to pause buffer to avoid doing it legit.
This is off the top of my head, I could probably think of more but I don't want to spend too much time on this.
The only good Bowser map in the series is Bowser's Pinball Machine in Mario Party DS.
Yup, pretty much spot on.
Well, i'm not really fond of the map either and i'm of the opinion that it is more suited for Partner Party instead of Mario Party, however i'm willing to make the case for it.
Well, looking back at past Mario Party's -MP7 and 8 specifically- some of the boards their have a space count in the low 40, Pagoda Peak (MP7) and Shy Guy's Perplexed Express (MP8) are notable because they resemble a similar layout to KTT in Super Mario Party. They all have a fairly linear path with a clear end point, naturally these boards have a lower space count because of it's linearity.
Pagoda Peak has 42 spaces, you'd only need a little more then 4 perfect rolls to get to the top and their are many items to help with that where as in KTT theirs only a regular dash mushroom available (no golden mushrooms). I mean, I can make the same argument your making.
KTT is designed to be a high scoring map with lots of stars in play, evident by players being able to buy 2 stars at a time and 3 stars during the last 3 turns. The meta of the board is buying when stars are cheap, the board is small to encourage players to take risks with their character die to either slow them down before they get to the star or fast track to the star. Late game tends to have many players starved for coins trying to buy more stars, it's all about money, saving money and buying as much as you can.
The regular dice in Super Mario Party goes up to 6 not 10, the maps are slightly smaller to compensate, It's not even like they are that much smaller then ones found in MP5 or 8.
I don't know what game your playing if you think Super Mario Party has none of these.
I don't even feel I need to comment on this ridiculous rant... so I won't.
So, being able to buy stars, items or steal stars is not important enough to justify winning minigames?
Again, not really true. It varies by game but their is a lot stuff in many MPs that make bonus stars bs. I already talked about how the coin star can be decided by a battle minigame, but from MP5 and on wards battle minigames can decide both the coin and minigame star, because battles take place after the turn ends randomly, so however many coins are won in the battle minigame are added to the amount of coins won in minigames. All it takes is one battle minigame and those stars are gone.
You reaaaallly care about these bonus stars huh? I can get being disappointed by it but this is a bit much. Also, 10 and 15 turn games only have 2 bonus stars..
I wasn't saying that Hudson were bad or couldn't make good minigames, i'm just saying that NDCube is more consistent. Theirs a lot good minigames from Hudson, but they also had some massive stinkers like Viscous vending in MP5 and Cointagious in MP7 and when looking at some of the minigames as a package in their respective game the set seems subpar. The worse it got was MP8 when some minigames seemingly not play tested.
It depends on what turn you're on and the rank of the player, 20 was a bit high on my part, but I have had games where the Magic lamp was a no show until late game.
If you were saying this about MP3 i'd agree, but since you're talking about MP2 I strongly disagree. In MP2 every board has one item minigame, it gets repetitive seeing the same minigame over and over again and the item minigames themselves aren't that good in MP2. It's one of the worst aspects of the game, I don't know how can praise it.
Sign... The core mechanic by design adds competitiveness. Characters having a unique dice block means you actually have to put thought into your main and what options their dice gives you. The very fact that you always have an influence over what you could potentially roll is the devs adding competitiveness. Item stores having fixed selection means players are not praying to RNGJesus for a good item.
Literally your argument against SMP being less competitive than any other Mario Party is bonus stars, you go on and on telling yourself that SMP is somehow less competitive to an average Mario Party if you want, but the games design doesn't support that narrative.
Considering how much you like MP5 it's a weird complaint as well.
Man, you're actually talking about a difference of 20 coins and 5 coins... as if either really mattered. If you could afford it, most would do it.
Also, theirs a reason why I specifically said he functions the same as MP1 Boo, because he was free in that game as well.
Does everything you say here also apply to chain chomp in MP5 and what are your thoughts on that?
...Okay... apparently if two boo's do not exist on a map then the devs didn't care about the map. Jeez, Hudson really didn't give a crap about MP3,4,6 and I guess they just pissed on MP5,7 and 8...
Right, a difference in 20 coins means it's less competitive, you do know that if Lakitu stole a star in SMP for 50 coins it'd be 5x the amount that it takes to buy a star and therefor would be unviable correct?
The only map in MP2 that has more than a 104 spaces is Western Land and again since SMP dice usually go up to 6 it makes sense the boards have less spaces.
I suppose we can both agree that ever since the N64 games the maps in MP have shrank in size somewhat.
Also, battle games in SMP are rumble games, the coins are wagered the same, it's slightly different and honestly not really exciting but there ya go.
Me.
Another rant I don't feel I need to comment on, but I guess I will.
Like I said at the end of my last post, a lot of this comes off as old game bias, refusing to keep an open mind to a game that's different to what old entries did. Really seems like you go in with a negative mindset from the beginning and use it to justify declaring SMP the worst Mario Party in the series.
Honestly dude you're missing out if you don't at least try Partner Party. The minigames are slightly more limited (no 1v3s) but free movement is good, and hey if you're disappointed by the space count of KTT in Mario Party mode you'll be glad to know it has 200 spaces in Partner Party.
Play Mario Party DS and/or Star Rush, but mostly DS. Really good portable entries.
-Arcadia-
Banned
Aside from the fanboys, honestly? Going back to this post below, I think they see old games as inherently devalued and unworthy, because that’s what they regularly experience. To them, $60 for three decades-old games sounds like highway robbery.
Nintendo fans alternatively understand how gracefully Nintendo games and visuals age, and understand that they’re getting 3 absolute masterpieces in one release, and for the price of a single game.
It’s not to say we wouldn’t like more upgrades than what’s here, but I think we’re also fundamentally capable of seeing the value in a way that they’re not.
Lionel Richie
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Newly Vacant
said, we always assume people are being facetious with Ninty lol sorry I got defensive my man.
Evangelion Unit-01
Master Chief
I like most Sony first party but I did find Horizon in particular to be a bit overrated. Uncharted is my favorite Sony franchise. Really looking forward to giving Ghost a go soon too. Also plan to pick up Persona 5 Royal since it’s on sale.
No worries, could tell you just misunderstood my joke. Edited it for clarity. I’m still too new around here for most people to know me.Like
Jooxed
Gold Member
Hello Nintenchads!
ahh my other arch nemesis besides
MiyazakiHatesKojima
, what brings you to these parts
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Hello Nintenchads!
I dunno who tf you are, but Kiseki avatars are always welcome.
Newly Vacant
Member
Where’s
Xaero Gravity
? It feels like this thread is missing his chaotic contributions.
Xaero Gravity
? It feels like this thread is missing his chaotic contributions.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
I guess that game got delayed.....I'm losing motivation to pick up PS5 at launch, because at this point I cant think of any game I want to pick up when PS5 comes out.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
He's playing videogames most likely. Or having straight sex somewhere in the frozen wasteland that is Canada. Do not worry.Where’s
Astral Dog
Member
Im very very hyped for RE VILLAGE but the truth is, getting a next gen console is not an easy choice at this time for me
Price, online only, Game releases, Covid i rather wait to see how things turn out over the next year, but i started saving money
No Mario Galaxy 2 in 3D collection
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
No Mario Galaxy 2 still makes me sad.
Lionel Richie
Member
Welcome abroad, do stick around. We're mostly well intentioned retards who work hard to honor the sweet memory of legendary hero and all things lolis connoisseur
OutrageousFacts
.Hello Nintenchads!
Clarissa's friend! Fuck Outrageous, you're our hero now.
Clarissa
Banned
I'm not important. It's my friend that you need to know. He's the chad of chads.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I can't follow this bullshit.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
So I just finished the blue streamer in Paper Mario - the finale in the theatre is awesome!
Cutty Flam
Banned
It’s pretty overrated I thought. I was honestly bored out of my mind like 85% of the game. It presents almost no challenge
But I heard that there are stars with Luigi after the game? Maybe I should have gone after those and the game would be a lot better? But still, the main game with Mario was a huge letdown for me. Am I the only one here who feels it’s average in terms of fun factor, yet at the same time I recognize it’s technically one of the best Mario games ever made in terms of its design?
If it ever comes out again I want to see what what went wrong with my playthrough by playing through it a second time
edit: Super Mario Galaxy is much better overall. Way more soul than Super Mario Galaxy 2. The OST in Super Mario Galaxy blows its successor away too
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Zannegan
Member
Agreed. Honestly, while I get why people are excited, it does seem like a pretty low effort celebration release. Galaxy 2 should have been included. Plus, I would have preferred (and paid more for) separate remakes of each game with new visuals and a few QoL improvements. No doubt Nintendo will get to that eventually, that way they can hit the wallets coming and going.
I'm sure 3D All Stars will sell gangbusters, but personally (since I've already 100%ed 2/3 of the collection) I'm holding out for something better. I may pick up the 3D World remake to play with friends though, depending on how extensive the new content is.
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Starlight Lotice
Member
I Pre-Ordered the Mario Collection but I do believe it was a minimum effort deal.
I think they could have added a documentary on how all 3 games came to be as well as probably some alternative prototype designs you can look at.
They are not bad games at all but for £50 it does feel overpriced simply because Mario 64 was like....£7.50 on Virtual Console and Galaxy was around £20 on the Wii U. Sunshine wasn't loved much and goes on the second hand market for £10 so at £35 it would have been seen as great value.
The rarity is a play on expecting people to pre-order. Luckily enough I use Cashback websites so it will sting a little less and i get 3 Mario games on one console!
I think they could have added a documentary on how all 3 games came to be as well as probably some alternative prototype designs you can look at.
They are not bad games at all but for £50 it does feel overpriced simply because Mario 64 was like....£7.50 on Virtual Console and Galaxy was around £20 on the Wii U. Sunshine wasn't loved much and goes on the second hand market for £10 so at £35 it would have been seen as great value.
The rarity is a play on expecting people to pre-order. Luckily enough I use Cashback websites so it will sting a little less and i get 3 Mario games on one console!
Intoxicate
Member
I bough EShop money cheap, den two vouchers, hence I get the collection for 35€.
The second will be used for 3D World.
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
For anyone in the UK - shopto has 3D world going for £42 instead of the usual £50.